Question about President Obama

SmellsLikeCurlyFries · Apr 29, 2012

NightHawkeye said:
LOL

You do realize that Dan Rather was the Richard Nixon of journalism, don't you? Oh ... the irony ...

Care to show some facts on this (that aren't from sources like Fox or The American Thinker)? Or is this just another one of your hit-and-run statements with no backing that you still apparently think I'm dumb enough to just accept?

You should have learned by now

JustMeSee · Apr 29, 2012

NightHawkeye said:
LOL

You do realize that Dan Rather was the Richard Nixon of journalism, don't you? Oh ... the irony ...

Is that a good thing or bad. Other than Watergate, I know a lot of people who thought he was a great president.

SmellsLikeCurlyFries · Apr 29, 2012

NightHawkeye said:
I never said he was a dictator. I've consistently said he was a Marxist. His parents were Marxist, he grew up around Marxists and he has filled important positions in his administration with Marxists.

In agreement so far?

On none of those, no.

Do Marxists not have just as much a right to be American citizens and have a voice in American government as you do, Hawk?

NightHawkeye · Apr 29, 2012

JustMeSee said:
Is that a good thing or bad. Other than Watergate, I know a lot of people who thought he was a great president.

LOL ... the frame of reference at the time was LBJ.

A lot of dishonorable people seem to gravitate toward politics. Weird ...

Journalists claim a higher standard though. So, yeah Dan Rather was a bad thing. Bottom line is that Dan Rather was a bottom feeder.

SmellsLikeCurlyFries · Apr 29, 2012

NightHawkeye said:
LOL ... the frame of reference at the time was LBJ.

A lot of dishonorable people seem to gravitate toward politics. Weird ...

Journalists claim a higher standard though. So, yeah Dan Rather was a bad thing. Bottom line is that Dan Rather was a bottom feeder.

Attack Rather all you want, but don't you dare touch my Cronkite. He's America's greatest journalist and if you say anything different I'll have to be very cross

NightHawkeye · Apr 29, 2012

SmellsLikeCurlyFries said:
On none of those, no.

Do Marxists not have just as much a right to be American citizens and have a voice in American government as you do, Hawk?

I'm all in favor of Marxists coming out in the open. Something about Marxist philosophy forces them under-cover because otherwise almost no one would willingly vote them into office. People tend to dislike liars and frauds. Weird ...

NightHawkeye · Apr 29, 2012

SmellsLikeCurlyFries said:
Attack Rather all you want, but don't you dare touch my Cronkite. He's America's greatest journalist and if you say anything different I'll have to be very cross

ROTFL

So you presented Rather as the sacrificial lamb just to put Uncle Wally on a pedestal? Kinda like the LBJ vs Nixon comparison, eh? Other than being a "nice guy" though, what great attributes did Cronkite bring to journalism? If Uncle Walter set such a high standard, why did his successor have such a low standard?

SmellsLikeCurlyFries · Apr 29, 2012

NightHawkeye said:
I'm all in favor of Marxists coming out in the open. Something about Marxist philosophy forces them under-cover because otherwise almost no one would willingly vote them into office. People tend to dislike liars and frauds. Weird ...

"Marxists" have to hide just like homosexual politicians have to hide, or Muslim ones. It's not because they are liars and frauds, it's because there are people in this country who will distrust them simply based on ignorant rhetoric surrounding their label instead of giving them a fair shake.

Just watch. Put a politician who is a gay Muslim Marxist up against a politician who is a straight Christian capitalist. See who wins and who gets an assortment of venom and death threats.

By the way, I'm still looking for an answer to this question: Do Marxists not have the same right as you do to be American citizens and have a voice in our government?

SmellsLikeCurlyFries · Apr 29, 2012

NightHawkeye said:
ROTFL

So you presented Rather as the sacrificial lamb just to put Uncle Wally on a pedestal? Kinda like the LBJ vs Nixon comparison, eh? Other than being a "nice guy" though, what great attributes did Cronkite bring to journalism? If Uncle Walter set such a high standard, why did his successor have such a low standard?

JFK was a wonderful President. LBJ was full of crap. Does that reflect badly on JFK, and make his wonderful things bad? Or does it just show a downward trend in our society?

YoungJoonKim · Apr 29, 2012

SmellsLikeCurlyFries said:
"Marxists" have to hide just like homosexual politicians have to hide, or Muslim ones. It's not because they are liars and frauds, it's because there are people in this country who will distrust them simply based on ignorant rhetoric surrounding their label instead of giving them a fair shake.

Just watch. Put a politician who is a gay Muslim Marxist up against a politician who is a straight Christian capitalist. See who wins and who gets an assortment of venom and death threats.

By the way, I'm still looking for an answer to this question: Do Marxists not have the same right as you do to be American citizens and have a voice in our government?

your explanations are marvelous. why are you wasting your time? You should spend your time for those who are more deserving.

Archaeopteryx · Apr 29, 2012

NightHawkeye said:
I never said he was a dictator. I've consistently said he was a Marxist. His parents were Marxist, he grew up around Marxists and he has filled important positions in his administration with Marxists.

In agreement so far?

So Obama is guilty of being a Marxist by virtue of his association with former Marxists? I say former Marxists because the best evidence that has been presented suggests to us that the Marxists Obama is supposedly guilty of associating with are not necessarily Marxists right now, although they may have been in the past. Of course Obama must be a Marxist... Bailing the capitalists out is such a Marxist thing to do.

NightHawkeye · Apr 29, 2012

SmellsLikeCurlyFries said:
By the way, I'm still looking for an answer to this question: Do Marxists not have the same right as you do to be American citizens and have a voice in our government?

The communists and Marxists have a long tradition of being established political parties, CurlyFries. I support that.

I do not support subterfuge, subversion or sedition. Hopefully, that's clear enough for you.

SmellsLikeCurlyFries · Apr 29, 2012

YoungJoonKim said:
your explanations are marvelous. why are you wasting your time? You should spend your time for those who are more deserving.

*shrug* I always have hope that the obstinately misinformed will see the truth. Perhaps it's mere wishful thinking on my part.

SmellsLikeCurlyFries · Apr 29, 2012

NightHawkeye said:
The communists and Marxists have a long tradition of being established political parties, CurlyFries. I support that.

I do not support subterfuge, subversion or sedition. Hopefully, that's clear enough for you.

It's not, as you're still creatively dodging your way around my question. It's really quite simple to answer. I'll break it down for you.

Do Marxists have just as much right as you do to be American citizens? Yes or no.

Do Marxists have just as much right as you do to have a voice in government? Yes or no.

And I'll add a third question: Do Marxists have just as much right as you do to have their own personal philosophy as the main governing philosophy of this country? Yes or no.

See? Very simple. All of them are just yes or no.

SmellsLikeCurlyFries · Apr 29, 2012

Archaeopteryx said:
So Obama is guilty of being a Marxist by virtue of his association with former Marxists? I say former Marxists because the best evidence that has been presented suggests to us that the Marxists Obama is supposedly guilty of associating with are not necessarily Marxists right now, although they may have been in the past. Of course Obama must be a Marxist... Bailing the capitalists out is such a Marxist thing to do.

And then there's his parents, who aren't actually Marxist.

NightHawkeye · Apr 29, 2012

SmellsLikeCurlyFries said:
It's not, as you're still creatively dodging your way around my question. It's really quite simple to answer. I'll break it down for you.

Do Marxists have just as much right as you do to be American citizens? Yes or no.

Do Marxists have just as much right as you do to have a voice in government? Yes or no.

And I'll add a third question: Do Marxists have just as much right as you do to have their own personal philosophy as the main governing philosophy of this country? Yes or no.

See? Very simple. All of them are just yes or no.

The way I look at it ... Marxists don't have a "right" to supplant the existing constitutional government with their version of heaven on earth.

Sorry you don't like my answer. I can rephrase it as many times as you'd like, if that will help your understanding though.

NightHawkeye · Apr 29, 2012

SmellsLikeCurlyFries said:
And then there's his parents, who aren't actually Marxist.

Actually, they were. I presented the evidence earlier ... which you choose to ignore.

disciple2011 · Apr 29, 2012

NightHawkeye said:
I never said he was a dictator. I've consistently said he was a Marxist. His parents were Marxist, he grew up around Marxists and he has filled important positions in his administration with Marxists.

In agreement so far?

He helps the rich remain rich by keeping the Bush tax cuts.
He strengthens the large, central federal government model.
He assists corporations to remain intact even when they steal, cheat and deserve to end in ruin.

How is that ANYTHING like a Marxist?

No that is the works of a capitalist plutocrat.

RETS · Apr 29, 2012

Elgibbor said:
As a non-American, i was wondering if it is a crime for an American citizen to call Obama a dictator?

No, it is not a crime.

Technically, it is erroneous. However, I emphasize the technicality of it being a false statement.

EdwinWillers · Apr 29, 2012

SmellsLikeCurlyFries said:
Do Marxists have just as much right as you do to be American citizens? Yes or no.

Do Marxists have just as much right as you do to have a voice in government? Yes or no.

Marxists don't want to be American citizens. They hate America; marxists want to be something other than Americans, and not citizens, but comrades.

Marxists don't want a voice in government. They want to be the voice of government.

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