What Commandment did God say to; "Remember", that the world wants to forget? (6)

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Originally Posted by thomasalias Has anyone tried a boycott of sabbath threads yet? If we don't participate then it would most likely die.
It won't stop those making such threads from just starting new ones over and over posting their doctrine without anyone refuting it and bumping it daily so it appears on the new threads list.
We can always vote for a sub-board on that topic so as not to clutter up the main GT board with all the Sabby threads :thumbsup:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7444270-3/#post54204537
New Sabbatarian subforum?

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what r u doing up so late? past your bedtime...:D:p
Tis the Sabbath, so I must stay awake till sunrise.....oh wait...what the heck am I thinking! G'night
 
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It won't stop those making such threads from just starting new ones over and over posting their doctrine without anyone refuting it and bumping it daily so it appears on the new threads list.

We could just come in and spam Romans 14 and Col scripture. :)



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Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Rom 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
Rom 14:7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.


Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.


Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
Rom 14:18 For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men.
Rom 14:19 Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.
 
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We could just come in and spam Romans 14 and Col scripture. :)



:liturgy:



Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Rom 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
Rom 14:7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.


Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.


Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
Rom 14:18 For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men.
Rom 14:19 Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.

You can spam this thread all you want, but it won't change the truth of the 10 Commandments written by the finger of God!
 
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You can spam this thread all you want, but it won't change the truth of the 10 Commandments written by the finger of God!
Perhaps......:angel:

Exodus 8:19 and the sacred scribes are saying to Par`oh "finger of Elohiym this'
and is being stout heart of Par`oh and not he hearkened to them, as which YAHWEH spoke
[Luke 11:20/John 8]

Luke 11:20 If yet in finger of God I am casting out the demons consequently unawares upon ye the Kingdom of the God.
 
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You can spam this thread all you want, but it won't change the truth of the 10 Commandments written by the finger of God!
So what? We have a new covenant if you have heard that doesn't repeat the 4th as a requirement any place in the NT.
 
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So what? We have a new covenant if you have heard that doesn't repeat the 4th as a requirement any place in the NT.

Your reasoning is illogical. If the Sabbath Commandment was to be done away with at the cross, Jesus would not have kept it his whole adult life while on earth and even kept in the grave. Moreover, if the Sabbath was to be done way with, something so well know and practiced in the 1st century culture, surely Jesus would have clearly stated that to the disciples before his death or at the latest soon after his resurrection. But, the NT shows the disciples keeping the Sabbath faithfully in the book of Acts. This totally explodes your premise. Additionally, when Jesus made changes to the covenant He did put those changes into place before His death, case in point, the Last Supper replaced the Passover, Baptism by immersion in water.
 
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So what? We have a new covenant if you have heard that doesn't repeat the 4th as a requirement any place in the NT.
Yes, there is a new covenant as scripture declares, who here is saying otherwise?

Question to you then, where shall we find the 3rd Commandment, "Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain." verbatim ['repeat'] in the NT? Please cite the verse which do this.
 
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Galatians 3:10 (NASB)
10 For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse;

Galatians 5:18 (NASB)
18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.

And so the question arises, which spirit is leading those under the Law since it isn't the Holy Spirit?

I believe the answer is:

1 Timothy 4:1-4 (NASB)
1 But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron, 3 men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth. For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with gratitude;
 
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Galatians 3:10 (NASB)
10 For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse;

Galatians 5:18 (NASB)
18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.

And so the question arises, which spirit is leading those under the Law since it isn't the Holy Spirit?

I believe the answer is:

1 Timothy 4:1-4 (NASB)
1 But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron, 3 men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth. For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with gratitude;

I see this is one of your favorite texts, dollarsbill.

God gave the law. He is the "doctrine giver".

Now if the law being referred to is His in this passage - as I see you are interpreting it - what does this make God according to your understanding of this text?
 
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I see this is one of your favorite texts, dollars bill.
All of God's Word is my "favorite".
God gave the law. He is the "doctrine giver".
He also gave us the New Covenant, replacing the Law of Moses.
Now if the law being referred to is His in this passage - as I see you are interpreting it - what does this make God according to your understanding of this text?
Almost sounds like you've never heard of the NEW Covenant, replacing the Old.

Hebrews 8:13 (NASB)
13 When He said, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete.
 
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All of God's Word is my "favorite".

He also gave us the New Covenant, replacing the Law of Moses.

Almost sounds like you've never heard of the NEW Covenant, replacing the Old.

Hebrews 8:13 (NASB)
13 When He said, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete.

If the first be obsolete:

Then I have a few questions for ya:

The Law (old covenant - as you refer to it) tells me not to cut myself for the dead, practice sorcery or divination.

It also tells me not to boil a young goat in it's mother's milk.

Or practice homosexuality. Or sex with animals.

May I do these things now? After all - If Sabbath is done away with and food laws - because they are OBSOLETE BY THIS DEFINITION AS THEY ARE "OLD COVENANT"

Then I'd like to know the basis on which you'd advise me I CANNOT do the above things - because they are VERY MUCH INCLUDED in what you call "the old covenant".

Thanks.
 
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Galatians 3:10 (NASB)
10 For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse; ...;
Paul is speaking about "justification", and so neither the Scripture, nor the Seventh Day Adventist preach salvation by works. We continue to say it, preach it, live it, but they do not hear...

Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. Galatians 2:16

And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, [saying], In thee shall all nations be blessed. Galatians 3:8

But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, [it is] evident: for, The just shall live by faith. Galatians 3:11

Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster [to bring us] unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. Galatians 3:24

...now please see Pauls other statement which balances Galatians:

(For not the hearers of the law [are] just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. Romans 2:13

see also Romans 3-5, James 2, etc.
 
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If the first be obsolete:
What do you mean if? I just quoted you the Scripture that says it is obsolete. Do you reject Hebrews?
Then I have a few questions for ya:

The Law (old covenant - as you refer to it) tells me not to cut myself for the dead, practice sorcery or divination.

It also tells me not to boil a young goat in it's mother's milk.

Or practice homosexuality. Or sex with animals.

May I do these things now? After all - If Sabbath is done away with and food laws - because they are OBSOLETE BY THIS DEFINITION AS THEY ARE "OLD COVENANT"
I suggest you read the New Covenant.
Then I'd like to know the basis on which you'd advise me I CANNOT do the above things - because they are VERY MUCH INCLUDED in what you call "the old covenant".

Thanks.
"The works of the Law"! That's what Christians are not under. I.E. diet, clothing, etc. It's still sin to lie, murder, commit adultery, etc.
 
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What do you mean if? I just quoted you the Scripture that says it is obsolete. Do you reject Hebrews?

I suggest you read the New Covenant.

"The works of the Law"! That's what Christians are not under. I.E. diet, clothing, etc. It's still sin to lie, murder, commit adultery, etc.

Tell me plainly dollars bill - may I do anything of the following things:

-Cut myself for the dead
-Practice divination or sorcery
-boil a young goat in it's mother's milk
-practice homosexuality
-practice sex with animals

?

If the answer is NO:

Then please show me where in this new covenant it doesn't allow for such practices.
 
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