Pat Robertson

solo66 man · Feb 23, 2002

Televangelist makes anti-Islam remarks
Washington Post

Television evangelist Pat Robertson on Thursday described Islam as a violent religion bent on world domination, drawing protests from an American Muslim group.
Robertson made the remarks on his Christian Broadcasting Network's
``700 Club.'' In mid-September, he and fellow evangelist Jerry Falwell suggested on the same show that abortion providers, feminists, gays and liberal groups were partly responsible for the Sept. 11 attacks.

After a segment Thursday on the political views of Muslims in America, the announcer, Lee Webb, turned to Robertson and asked: ``As for the Muslim immigrants, Pat, it makes you wonder, if they have such contempt for our foreign policy why they'd even want to live here?''

``Well, as missionaries possibly to spread the doctrine of Islam,''
Robertson answered. ``But, ladies and gentlemen, I have taken issue with our esteemed president in regard to his stand in saying Islam is a peaceful religion. It's just not. And the Koran makes it very clear, if you see an infidel, you are to kill him.''

Hussein Ibish, communications director of the American-Arab Anti-
Discrimination Committee, said: ``This is called anti-Semitism. It's a resurgent anti-Semitism with the word `Muslims' instead of the word `Jews.' ''

Except fo one tiny issue, The Jews aren't trying to kill us. Satan hiding behind our sense of righteousness and laws .

billhabing · Feb 23, 2002

The reason for the dimise of USA is living in "luxury and pleasure"
Not the Gays etc. I wonder who is warning people of the danger of enjoying your life at someone eleses expense?

solo66 man · Feb 23, 2002

You are partially right. Part of it does have to do with the pleasure of luxury, not that we have it, but that we love it above God.
Plus all the things that Pat Robertson said.
"abortion providers, feminists, gays and liberal groups were partly responsible for the Sept. 11 attacks."

JohnR7 · Feb 23, 2002

>>The reason for the dimise of USA is living in "luxury and pleasure" Not the Gays etc.

The problem is not "luxury and pleasure" the problem is that peoples love for God and their neighbor is growing cold.

God delights to give us pleasure in Him, and there is more pleasure in God than anywhere else. But for whatever reason, people look for comfort and pleasure everywhere except where they should be looking for it, in and with God.

When we seek to put God first and make Him our first love and number one priority, then everything else will fall into place.

The problem with American is they have left their first love and God is a jealous God. He does not want us to have anything in our lives more important than Him.

The problem in American is a harlot church that is in love with someone, or something else, more than God.

Rev. 2:4 Nevertheless I have this against you, that you have left your first love.

Matthew 24:12 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.

rollinTHUNDER · Feb 23, 2002

I don't believe that Pat and Jerry hit the bulls-eye here. This is not Gods judgment on America. Why would one small piece of our country get judged for the sins of the entire nation?? No doubt, judgment is going to come on this land, but this wasn't it. When God judges America, there won't be any doubt. God is merciful, patient and slow to wrath. I don't plan on being here to see Gods wrath, but Pat Robertson does. He's a good man, but I disagree with him on two things. Stock Market/Post-trib. I don't know too much about Jerry Falwell.

solo66 man · Feb 24, 2002

Because you will notice it was all that signified our wealth as a nation. And to many, it was the icon of their diety of wealth and prosperity instead of God.

Kirkland1244 · Feb 25, 2002

Nothing this (cuss word) ever says is of any value.
As soon as we're done taking out the Islamic fundies overseas,

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Further edit by solo66 man

ZiSunka · Feb 26, 2002

I despise almost everything Pat Robertson has to say, because he claims to be speaking for my God even when he says the most foolish and unbilical things!

I saw a tv interview with him on NBC in which he said that Islam has superceded Christianity, that Islamic thought had won out over Christ. I thought he was making a declaration of conversion to Islam. Now it seems he is trying to be a Christian again. The man is doubleminded in all his ways. He needs to consider sitting down and out of the public view until he decides what he believes.

solo66 man · Feb 26, 2002

You obviously misunderstood him. Now, I do not always agree with him either, because he is such a politico. But some things are very clear. He was only saying that Islam is growing much faster than Christianity in the world.

Now what he said in this article is completely true.

solo66 man · Feb 28, 2002

Although we may differences with Pat Robertson, we must remember he is a Christian brother and we should not treat him
as though he is just an outsider and a sinner. He has not sinned
in his views.

Kirkland1244 · Feb 28, 2002

If I actually considered Pat Robertson, or anyone like him, to be remotely Christian, I would switch religions so fast it'd make your head spin. Fortunately, Robertson has clearly shown himself to be no more Christian than *****, another petty hate-monger out to accrue power to himself and crush anyone who is different than he is.

Sadly, his intolerant fringe has infested and is destroying the Republican Party. Just as Southern Baptists in the early 1900s led the crusade for racism and hatred of blacks in the southern Democratic party, now they're leading the crusade for bigotry against and hatred of gays in the GOP. But history always casts such people aside, and usually tramples them down nice and hard before moving on as well.

In other words, in the end, people like Robertson always get what they deserve.

ZiSunka · Mar 1, 2002

He was only saying that Islam is growing much faster than Christianity in the world.

Hmm, well, the interviewer asked him if that's what he meant and he said that he believed that Chrsitianity had failed and that Islam had taken over what Christians had failed to accomplish. He made it sound like God had given up on Christians and had given the work over to Muslims. When the interview pressed him on it, he would not deny that that is what he meant. He said it's all in his newest book.

Those were his exact words. He made it clearly sound as if he believed that Christianity was over and Islam's day was dawning. I wrote to him and asked for a clarification of his statements, but he never answered. I also wrote to the tv network and asked them not to call Pat Robertson a Christian leader anymore.

solo66 man · Mar 2, 2002

Judge righteously. Instead of condemning a Christian brother, whom you say is mislead, you should only point out the error and pray for him.
I still believe you have misunderstood the comment, as I heard it also, and did not understand it the same as you.

Crusader Abrahm · Mar 2, 2002

Originally posted by lambslove

Hmm, well, the interviewer asked him if that's what he meant and he said that he believed that Chrsitianity had failed and that Islam had taken over what Christians had failed to accomplish. He made it sound like God had given up on Christians and had given the work over to Muslims. When the interview pressed him on it, he would not deny that that is what he meant. He said it's all in his newest book.

Those were his exact words. He made it clearly sound as if he believed that Christianity was over and Islam's day was dawning. I wrote to him and asked for a clarification of his statements, but he never answered. I also wrote to the tv network and asked them not to call Pat Robertson a Christian leader anymore.

you don't know what your talking about

NoahsRaven · Mar 3, 2002

Pat Robertson, Jerry Fallwell, Frederick Price, and Kenneth Copeland have ALL now become very outspoken against the Islamic people. They ALL have books to sell too. They are making a profit with their slanderous accusations and venomous comments. We are just visitors, brothers and sisters. We are not here to judge EXCEPT for those within the church who do not adhere to the Word. Hang on, its gonna be a bumpy ride.

ZiSunka · Mar 4, 2002

Thank you all for your judgement of me, especially after speaking so strongly about how we are not to judge. I guess you mean not to judge "famous" Christians.

I did not misunderstand him. He has done many interviews in correlation with his new book. This was the first interview he did. The interviewer couldn't believe what she was hearing either, and asked him many questions to clarify what he meant. Each time he confirmed that he meant that Christianity had failed and Islam had superceded. These were his exact words. I don't know how to misinterpret that. It means only one thing.

In subsequent interviews he has changed his words. But I heard what I heard, he said what he said. Immediately after the interview I wrote to him, as I'm sure many Christians did, and then he changed his story. I did as the Bible calls us to do with a misled or sinning brother. If he repented because of it, isn't that a good thing?

solo66 man · Mar 5, 2002

lambslove wrote:
"Thank you all for your judgement of me, especially after speaking so strongly about how we are not to judge. I guess you mean not to judge "famous" Christians."

Who judged you? Give me the exact words and show me where the judgement is.

NoahsRaven,
As much as I sometimes disagree with Robertson's political
games, he is definitely not heresitical. Neither is Fallwell. Copeland and his fellow properity teachers are though, such as Price, Dollar, Brown, Hagan, etc.

What did disappoint me Fallwell and Robertson is they bowed to media pressure when they stepped up to speak the truth about the 911 attacks. And that they failed to mention that
our false idol of economics was attacked. This is not to say I was glad to see us attacked by the Muslims. God did allow it for reasons too many want to ignore or say a loving God would not do that or allow it. If they would read the entire Bible and accept the Whole of Scripture, they would see God might and did allow it.

VOW · Mar 5, 2002

I'm with LambsLove on this one. Some people should be muzzled, and Pat Robertson is one of them. Simply saying, "He's a spirit brother in Christ, and he believes what he is saying is right" is a cop-out. With all the threads blasting the Pope and wayward priests, Pat Robertson gets a "Get Out of Jail Free" card on this?

Lee Webb, turned to Robertson and asked: "As for the Muslim immigrants, Pat, it makes you wonder, if they have such contempt for our foreign policy why they'd even want to live here?'' "Well, as missionaries possibly to spread the doctrine of Islam,''
Robertson answered. "But, ladies and gentlemen, I have taken issue with our esteemed president in regard to his stand in saying Islam is a peaceful religion. It's just not. And the Koran makes it very clear, if you see an infidel, you are to kill him.''

How many Muslims does Mr. Robertson KNOW? In my workplace, we have people from all over the world, and there haven't been any fistfights in the parking lot or knifings in the break room. My daughter's Social Studies teacher in Middle School was a Muslim convert. She loved him dearly, and I can understand why. He was one of the most gentle, soft-spoken, intelligent people I have ever met. He showed his students respect, and they respected him in turn.

Peace be with you,
~VOW

solo66 man · Mar 6, 2002

It is not how many Muslims we know. It is the doctrine in the Koran. It will continue to prevail over all. It is just as Christian doctrine will prevail over all devoted Christians, utimately.

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