no wonder ppl reject Christianity: the Bible seems to contradict itself...
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i smetimes feel i have also left all "churches" - even though i attend daily Mass as often as i can
people are something else
hypocrites, just as Jesus always called them... (amazing how often he used that word)
but oh well. i admit i am a hypocrite too, in the sense that i dont live up to absolutely everything i belive in every day in every way
if it were not 4 the mercy of our Lord... I'd be in trouble...
I am so thankful He keeps me from mortal sin (venial sin as well if i let him, but you know how that goes!!! :o)anyway, i jus go to Church & try to forget about ... certain ppl
if i didn't do that... hmmm...
anyway, i think we christians - deep in our subconscious - feel that when we accept Christ and try to live by his ways, not ours that everything on Earth will be great... Heaven on Earth even. And sometimes things are quite lovely when you follow the Lord and go to Church and etc... but sometimes it is nothing but Hell... or at least the lowest depths of Purgatory
wondering if you cd share some of your spiritual histoyr? were you raised in a "church"??
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My parents were raised in a large town well over 90% Catholic . They had me attend 12 years of Catholic school . I decided before my senior year in high school that I would not continue in Catholicism once I left my parents home . For some , that would be considered as raised in a church .
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I think the people at church are a major road block to many to even consider reading the Bible or a relationship with God. The fraud is simply incredable. Are they justified? I think so. I sincerely feel sorry or remorse for them. Bout all I can do, it seems. Sure can't talk to them.
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1. James 1:20 = Origin of anger is human = imperfect anger = unrefined anger = unshaped anger
Human anger can turn into hate or turn into zealousness. It is best one shapes it to zealousness before it overwhelms a person.
be angry and do not sin = do not stay angry for a long time
2. Lit you shall be perfect
Practice of trying to love will ultimately result in willingness to love
1 John 1:8 ≠ we cannot say we are not sinners
1 John 1:8 = we cannot say that we have no inherent sin nature
Sinner = person who practices sin
1 John 3:9 No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
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My parents were raised in a large town well over 90% Catholic . They had me attend 12 years of Catholic school . I decided before my senior year in high school that I would not continue in Catholicism once I left my parents home . For some , that would be considered as raised in a church .
of all Christians, those who were raised Catholic, even when they have left the RCC, make the best Christians
i dont know you, so i have no idea if this is true of you...
but ... just an observation i've made
i had a friend who rejected me when i got enthused about my Catholic faith (got catechized). But she was very committed to Jesus... Oh, wait...
maybe not... since she acted like she was possessed eveyr time i talked about the RCC...
hmmm...
well, at least she was pro-life and... tried to be devoted to Jesus...
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Originally Posted by New_Wineskin
My parents were raised in a large town well over 90% Catholic . They had me attend 12 years of Catholic school . I decided before my senior year in high school that I would not continue in Catholicism once I left my parents home . For some , that would be considered as raised in a church .
There is no such thing as the "best Christians". Those redeemed by Christ are merely forgiven. Our own righteousness is a filthy rags. it is only Christ Who is righteous. our own righteousness is vile and an abomination to God.
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The Word of God is without error. it does not contradict itself. it does not return to God void, ever. the Holy Spirit is the teacher in all things of the Word of God. It is written. The Word of God is spiritual manna and literally feeds our spirit. it is written in proverbs repeatedly that the Word of God gives understanding and wisdom. It is a delight and is our sustenance. it is God-inspired.
"God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged." ~Romans 3:4
The Church is the bride of Christ. not an entity of itself that knows better than God Himself, nor His Word, nor the Holy Spirit, and certainly not Jesus the Christ the only begotten Son of the living God.
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Originally Posted by truthHurts77
i am quite happy to fork over my brain to the Church and be one of its victims... quite happy indeed...
a "victim" of the Church? Are we not to give ourselves to Jesus Christ? Is the Church your Savior, or is Jesus Christ?
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That's correct. Our works of righteousness are like filthy rags to God and the sacrifice of the wicked is detestable to Him and an abomination to Him (Isaiah 64:6; Proverbs 15:8; Proverbs 21:27).
Amen!
Good question.
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Originally Posted by truthHurts77
i am quite happy to fork over my brain to the Church and be one of its victims... quite happy indeed...
Inquiring minds want to know!
http://www.christianforums.com/t7625021-31/#post59569402
Let the Church tell you what to think...
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It's all about status:
The one true, the best, most obediant,...
but almost never saved, or saved but still in jeopardy,... just hoping & working.
The only available confidence ias in knowing you've done you're best...
but what if it isn't enough?
Better not miss church next Sunday, it could be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
The one true, the best, most obediant,...
but almost never saved, or saved but still in jeopardy,... just hoping & working.
The only available confidence ias in knowing you've done you're best...
but what if it isn't enough?
Better not miss church next Sunday, it could be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
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Good advice brinny. Many years ago an old pastor told me not to put my hope and trust in the church I was attending because it might not always be here for me. He said “always put your trust in God and he will find you a place for you to go. He was right many years later that church was no longer there and all those cherished times had passed. The pastor whom I had the greatest admiration, died and went to be with the Lord.
God can’t fail and he never fails us if we trust in him.
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I don't fret myself that people reject Christianity or the Bible, per se. What gets serious though is when people decide that Jesus is not who he says he is. That's shaky ground.
BTW, I don't think people reject the truth because the Bible seems to contradict itself. Don't fool yourself. People dislike Jesus because he calls us to repentance. People love their sin. Sin generates unbelief in the heart. People reject the truth because they love their sin.
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Amen. As it is written, let's keep our eyes on Jesus, our Redeemer, not man, who is but dust and has no righteousness of his own, but only Jesus' covering of righteousness.
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so who said otherwise?
that being said
Do you have no faith that Jesus can make someone a relatively GOOD person???
it seems that OSASers are imply that He is not powerful enough...
seems they are implying that they are hopeless as far as being "perfect"
as the Word nonetheless tells us we must be
St Mt 5:48
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