Satan/Lucifer and the Antichrist.

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I think I might know the answer to this question, but I need to be sure. Is the Antichrist Lucifer/Satan in the flesh, or is he his image? For Christ wasn't God the Father, but he was the glory and image of God the Father manifest in the flesh and in human form. Like Christ, is the Antichrist like the image of Satan manifest as Jesus was the image of the Father, or is he actually Satan in the flesh, for I know it was said for the Beast to form an "unholy trinity," but Revelation already seems to have said that that unholy trinity will be the Antichrist (or the Beast), the False Prophet, and the image of the beast, or his "statue" as the NLT says. So than if that is the trinity, wouldn't that make the Antichrist Satan, because otherwise there would technically be four if the Antichrist isn't Satan and Satan is still acting as the spirit dictating worldly powers behind the curtain.
 

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You are on the right track. A satanic trinity.
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Ok, but then who is who? Is Satan then not the Antichrist? And is the Beast the Antichrist, because Revelation talks about two beasts, one arising from the ocean and one on the earth or something. And then would the "image of the Beast" or his "statue" not be part of that trinity? Is the devil then just that spirit that walks to and fro throughout the earth and cannot dwell in the flesh?
 
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Christ is a path that leads unto Life, the Anti leads to destruction. Man is a beast and the false prophet the testimony of this, that brings this image in us to life. as John said there are many anti-christ's who confess that God has not come in the flesh.

For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

This is the Life that abides in us now. Christ in us.

Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

God is not divided and He does not share His Glory with another .... we as Jesus are not another.
 
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Just as God's Spirit works in many, so does the spirit of the anti-christ work in many.

1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Just as the Spirit of Christ is the Truth, the spirit of the anti-christ is a lie.

But even though both are spirits, they do manifest themselves in the tabernacles of our bodies.

But that does not mean there is to come one single individual in the flesh who shall be Satan, or Lucifer, or the beast, or the man of sin.

The scriptures show it is the spirit of them that work in many.



 
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The Antichrist is a single individual being, a person yet to appear

Not according to the Word of God.

1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

There are many people in this world, both past and present that deny Jesus was the Lords Christ come in the flesh.

1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

By John's testimony we know for a fact that it(spirit) was already in the world during the time he wrote the letter.

2 John 1:7
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Clearly there are many.:thumbsup:
 
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This man is yet to appear:

"He shall speak great words against the Most High, and shall wear out the saints of the Most High, and think to change times and laws." Dan. 7:25.

"He shall also stand up against the 'Prince of Princes"' (Jesus). Dan. 8:25.

"He shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of Gods." Dan. 11:36.

"Who opposeth and exaltetli himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he AS GOD sitteth in the Temple of God (at Jerusalem) showing himself that he IS GOD..... whose coming is after the Working of Satan with all Power and Signs and Lying Wonders." 2Thes. 2:3-5.
 
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This man is yet to appear:

"He shall speak great words against the Most High, and shall wear out the saints of the Most High, and think to change times and laws." Dan. 7:25.

"He shall also stand up against the 'Prince of Princes"' (Jesus). Dan. 8:25.

"He shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of Gods." Dan. 11:36.

"Who opposeth and exaltetli himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he AS GOD sitteth in the Temple of God (at Jerusalem) showing himself that he IS GOD..... whose coming is after the Working of Satan with all Power and Signs and Lying Wonders." 2Thes. 2:3-5.

The first born nature in man is flesh, and is carnal.

Man by his own understanding(carnal mind) has replaced the knowledge of God with his own knowledge, and has exalted himself in his own heart and mind.

Man has made himself his own god, who worships himself in the temple of God, which God had created for himself to dwell in.

This temple is the tabernacle of the body of man, and not at Jerusalem. (which you added to scripture)
 
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The Antichrist, as the "Man of Sin" is to- "Exalt himself and magnify himself above every god." Dan. 11:36, Dan. 11:37. "So that he AS GOD sitteth in the Temple of God showing himself that he IS GOD." 2Thes. 2:4.

The "Mystery of Godliness" is God manifest in the "flesh." 1Tim. 3:16. The "Mystery of Iniquity" will be Satan manifest in the "flesh." 2Thes. 2:7


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2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
 
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A non Christian has not the spirit of God dwelling in them, ever.

John 8:44

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

John 3:36
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
 
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The Antichrist, as the "Man of Sin" is to- "Exalt himself and magnify himself above every god." Dan. 11:36, Dan. 11:37. "So that he AS GOD sitteth in the Temple of God showing himself that he IS GOD." 2Thes. 2:4.

The "Mystery of Godliness" is God manifest in the "flesh." 1Tim. 3:16. The "Mystery of Iniquity" will be Satan manifest in the "flesh." 2Thes. 2:7


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2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Is the man of sin one, or many?

2 Thessalonians 2:8-12

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8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Sure looks like they and them all are many.

1 John 3:8;"He that commits sin is of the devil;":thumbsup:
 
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Is the man of sin one, or many?

2 Thessalonians 2:8-12

King James Version (KJV)


8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Sure looks like they and them all are many.

1 John 3:8;"He that commits sin is of the devil;":thumbsup:

1Kings 22:23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.

You can sorta catch the same these, to believe a lie, and a lying spirit sent

After the "working of" Satan (liar)
 
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Heres a few where you catch catch one spirit (a lying one) in the mouth of many (prophets)

1Kings 22:20 And the LORD said,Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner. And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him. And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.


2Thes 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:


2Thes 3:9 [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,


John 8:44.... When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


2Ch 18:22 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil against thee.
 
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That would be my question, because theres a THEN IF anyone say unto LO there is the Christ or LO THERE is the Christ follow not after.

Not to mention depends how one interprets the abomination of desolation of Daniel because Jesus said let him that READETH understand (Daniel did not understand it) but adds... LET THEM in Judaea FLEE to the mountains

I cant get around certain parts being inward myself
 
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