Republican debate audience booes the Golden Rule

Christians can't boo the Golden Rule. They just can't.

I'm not saying that doing nothing is always right in foreign policy, but that booing was ridiculous.

This just reinforces that my decision to give up my GOP membership- after making the mistake of voting for Bush Jr. that first time- was the right one. I absolutely can't fathom where they found such blood thirsty warmongers to stack the audience. SC and Fox News should be ashamed.

And Gingrich with his Andrew Jackson 'kill them' quip. That's sick.

NightHawkeye said:

Like Obama has done ...


Wait ... he's taking vacation where? Again? And, where's the money that was in my wallet?

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This thread wasn't even remotely about Obama, but you just can't help derailing, eh?











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seashale76 said:

This just reinforces that my decision to give up my GOP membership- after making the mistake of voting for Bush Jr. that first time- was the right one. I absolutely can't fathom where they found such blood thirsty warmongers to stack the audience. SC and Fox News should be ashamed.

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It's South Carolina ...

(psst ... remember Ft Sumter?)

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seashale76 said:

Uh- but we're the aggressors against other countries. The US keeps getting itself involved in issues that has nothing to do with the defense of our nation.

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You did read my entire post, right? I made it clear I wasn't talking about Iran, Iraq, etc. I was referring to their post about turning the other cheek. As a nation, turning the other cheek after being attacked invites a second attack, putting more lives at risk. Since governments are put here to protect their citizens, I would consider it a failure to do their duty.

It is the same for me personally, in my opinion. I will not retaliate to avenge myself, but I would to protect an innocent life.

Rion said:

You did read my entire post, right? I made it clear I wasn't talking about Iran, Iraq, etc. I was referring to their post about turning the other cheek. As a nation, turning the other cheek after being attacked invites a second attack, putting more lives at risk. Since governments are put here to protect their citizens, I would consider it a failure to do their duty.

It is the same for me personally, in my opinion. I will not retaliate to avenge myself, but I would to protect an innocent life.

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Which nation attacked us? Nobody is arguing against self-defense. However, the entire concept of our current overseas foreign warmongering has nothing to do with being attacked first by anyone. Even Bush admitted that Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11 and was honestly confused when a reporter attempted to make that connection.

*slams head into desk*
I know that. See? I mentioned it by name.

I was arguing what seemed to be "turn the other cheek" as foreign policy. If that is not what they meant, then I apologize.

I think maybe our whole view of National Defense needs to catch up with the 21st century. I may be wrong, but I think the days of nations warring against nations are rapidly going the way of the dodo. Now it's all cloak and dagger and legal "governments" really being loose fronts for ever-changing factions and ideologues. When was the last time a "nation" attacked the U.S.A.?

If we were to suffer another 9/11-like attack that was, for example, perpetrated by a paramilitary with semi-secret training facilities in Egypt and Libya, supplied by Hezbollah, using forged Iranian passports, housed at sleeper cells in Cleveland, who would we even attack?

As I consider the Golden Rule, I would expect that it is very difficult if not impossible to apply it to nations. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". How could a nation put this into practice? Does a nation have any idea of what it would have others do unto it? Should we invade any country that oppresses its citizens and set up a government that we would have set up for ourselves? Wouldn't we have a foreign country (France for instance) help us overthrow a monarch. I think we already did show we would have that done unto us so must we then do the same for every country in the world?

Douger said:

Fox/Twitter Debate: Republicans Loudly "Boo" the Golden Rule

There's a video clip at the end of the article. Pretty sad stuff, I guess South Carolina's a tough crowd.

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What nonsense. Republicans weren't booing the golden rule. Ron Paul is an idiot. They were booing the idiot.

oldbetang said:

What nonsense. Republicans weren't booing the golden rule. Ron Paul is an idiot. They were booing the idiot.

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By suggesting that America shouldn't do to other countries what it doesn't want done to it?

Care to explain the idiot part exactly? I've been reading my Bible too much lately so I'm having a hard time understanding colloquial republican.

-CryptoLutheran

oldbetang said:

What nonsense. Republicans weren't booing the golden rule. Ron Paul is an idiot. They were booing the idiot.

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Matthew 5:22

But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Matthew 7:1
Judge not, that you be not judged.

Ron Paul Booed by Insane Debate Audience for Endorsing the Golden Rule - YouTube

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Myshkin99 said:

If we were to suffer another 9/11-like attack that was, for example, perpetrated by a paramilitary with semi-secret training facilities in Egypt and Libya, supplied by Hezbollah, using forged Iranian passports, housed at sleeper cells in Cleveland, who would we even attack?

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That's easy... Cleveland.

Paradoxum said:

Christians can't boo the Golden Rule. They just can't.

I'm not saying that doing nothing is always right in foreign policy, but that booing was ridiculous.

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Welcome to America.

This is why Ron Paul is right on foreign policy: First off, as he stated in the South Carolina debate, the Taliban are not our enemies and are only fighting us because we occupy their land. They helped us fight off the Soviets during the Cold War solely because they were acting as the occupying regime. President George W. Bush declared them our enemy simply because they wouldn't go along with his assertion that bin Laden was mastermind behind 9/11. They asked the United States prior to us going in there, to provide evidence that he was the one responsible. The Bush administration would not provide the evidence, which led to the them declaring the Taliban our enemy. Bin Laden, who has never admitted to being behind the 9/11 attacks, issued a fatwa (holy decree) in 1996 which gave reasons for Jihad against the western powers occupying Afghanistan and the other middle eastern countries. Here's a link to the fatwa: Bin Laden's 1996 Fatwa | PBS NewsHour | August 1996 | PBS. In it, several of the main reasons given all point to U.S./Western intervention in the middle east, and the occupation of their countries.

Similarly, in 1998 bin Laden along with Ayman al-Zawahiri (head of a Jihad group in Egypt) and several other Islamic groups signed another fatwa. A key phrase in this fatwa reads, "The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim." You can read the entire decree here: Al Qaeda's 1998 Fatwa | PBS NewsHour | Feb. 23, 1998 | PBS.

The bottom line is this, Ron Paul's foreign policy will put an end to this unconstitutional neo-conservative interventionism which has taken over Washington since the Bush years. In order to gain trust, and to prevent REAL Islamic terrorism, we must move out of their lands.

You'd think it would take a complete empathectomy to boo the Golden Rule. I give a bit of its history as well as showing Gingrich's and Paul's opposing worldviews as seen through the unpreachable Bible verses at my Wordpress blog: Bible Funmentionables

Husky7 said:

...the Taliban are not our enemies and are only fighting us because we occupy their land. They helped us fight off the Soviets during the Cold War...

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This is incorrect. The Taliban are not the mujihadeen to whom we provided assistance during the early 1980s. The Taliban didn't even come to power until the mid-90s.

Husky7 said:

...Bin Laden, who has never admitted to being behind the 9/11 attacks...

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Yes he did. There's a whole video where he discusses the WTC in detail.

And what do you mean "has never"? Do you think he's still alive?

USincognito said:

This is incorrect. The Taliban are not the mujihadeen to whom we provided assistance during the early 1980s. The Taliban didn't even come to power until the mid-90s.

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Thanks for that insight, USincognito. It struck me as being off-base when he said that.

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USincognito said:

This is incorrect. The Taliban are not the mujihadeen to whom we provided assistance during the early 1980s. The Taliban didn't even come to power until the mid-90s.

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I apologize for that mistake, that was my fault. The mujihadeen were in fact the group that helped the U.S. oust the Soviets from Afghanistan.

Yes he did. There's a whole video where he discusses the WTC in detail.

And what do you mean "has never"? Do you think he's still alive?

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There is a video, but it was debunked years ago. The tape has zero credibility. The translation is off from what's actually being said, and the footage is actually older footage put together to make appear genuine. Bottom line, it was a fake. Osama bin Laden denied any involvement in the attacks on multiple occasions:

• http://articles.cnn.com/2001-09-16/us/inv.binladen.denial_1_bin-laden-taliban-supreme-leader-mullah-mohammed-omar?_s=PM:U

• Interview With Osama bin Laden. Denies[bless and do not curse]His Involvement in 9/11

No, I believe bin Laden is dead but I question the date, time, and cause of his actual death. We will never know when he died though because the United States refused to give bin Laden a trial, and decided to throw away the evidence by way of disposing his body at sea.

Husky7 said:

There is a video, but it was debunked years ago. The tape has zero credibility.{snip}

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Do you think 9/11 was an inside job? Yes or no?