Sanctuary, GOD's Blueprint of the Plan Of Salvation...

Sanctuary, GOD's Blueprint of the Plan Of Salvation...

Watch the full layout here...

The Blueprint 2011 (Full Version) on Vimeo

...then continue study here...

The Heavenly Sanctuary...

Have you ever heard of what Jesus is doing now in Heaven?

Have you ever heard of the earthly Tabernacle [Sanctuary] on Earth? Or what its purpose was, or its origins?

Did you know then of the Heavenly Tabernacle, where Christ Jesus is even right now? Do you know what He is doing there for you now?


According to all that I shew thee, [after] the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make [it]. Exodus 25:9

And look that thou make [them] after their pattern, which was shewed thee in the mount. Exodus 25:40

And this work of the candlestick [was of] beaten gold, unto the sh*ft thereof, unto the flowers thereof, [was] beaten work: according unto the pattern which the LORD had shewed Moses, so he made the candlestick. Numbers 8:4

All [this, said David], the LORD made me understand in writing by [his] hand upon me, [even] all the works of this pattern. 1 Chronicles 28:19

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs5Qt...eature=related

Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set [him] at his own right hand in the heavenly [places], Ephesians 1:20

Now of the things which we have spoken [this is] the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; Hebrews 8:1

A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man. Hebrews 8:2

Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, [that] thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount. Hebrews 8:5

But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands..." Hebrews 9:11;p

How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? Hebrews 9:14

"...the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these." Hebrews 9:23;p

For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, [which are] the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: Hebrews 9:24

So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. Hebrews 9:28

"...boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus," Hebrews 10:19;p

For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker [is] God. Hebrews 11:10

"...seven golden candlesticks;" Revelation 1:12;p

And in the midst of the seven candlesticks [one] like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. Revelation 1:13

"...the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks..." Revelation 1:20;p

"...who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;" Revelation 2:1;p

"I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it..." Revelation 3:8;p

"...seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God." Revelation 4:5;p

And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer [it] with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. Revelation 8:3

"And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament..." Revelation 11:19;p

The Sanctuary - A heavenly Model - YouTube

If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you [of] heavenly things? John 3:12

Want to know more about what Jesus is doing?


Christ Jesus is in the Heavenly Most Holy place before the Ark of His Testament, in this the anti-typical day of atonement [see Leviticus 16 and 23].

"Look up" into the Heavenly by Faith!

Are you placing your faith and trust in an earthly work of men or the Heavenly One by the Great High Priest Christ Jesus?

If those who are called by His [Christ's] name, would only "look up" by Faith into the Heavenly Sanctuary, and see by the eye of Faith, that Christ Jesus is doing such a Great work there... and that any such earthly work which seeks to mimic it as was shown going on or denying it is only hiding the Truth. If only they would want to understand their Mediator and Advocate in Heaven... who now stands in the Most Holy Place, before "the Ark of His Testament"... [see the type in Leviticus 16]

That earthly work is rather instead the work of another... "...another little horn...", for who was it that was cast down to this earth and where is his worship focused?


"And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth..." [Revelation 12:13;p]

Christ Jesus is ascended into the Heavens and our worship and faith should be directed there...

And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. Daniel 8:14

"...child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne." [Revelation 12:5;p]

Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast [our] profession. Hebrews 4:14

For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as [we are, yet] without sin. Hebrews 4:15

Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. Hebrews 4:16

That Throne of Grace is in Heaven... the very Mercy Seat... above the Tables...

The LORD hath prepared his throne in the heavens; and his kingdom ruleth over all. Psalms 103:19

Now of the things which we have spoken [this is] the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; Hebrews 8:1

For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: Philippians 3:20

For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, [which are] the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: Hebrews 9:24

He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) Ephesians 4:10
 

granpa

Noahide/Rationalist
Apr 23, 2007
2,518
68
California
✟3,072.00
Faith
Buddhist
Marital Status
Private
palacenoborder.jpg
 
Upvote 0
Sanctuary, GOD's Blueprint of the Plan Of Salvation...

Watch the full layout here...

The Blueprint 2011 (Full Version) on Vimeo

...then continue study here...

http://www.christianforums.com/t7624213/#post59544551

"...Many and earnest were the efforts made to overthrow their faith. None could fail to see that if the earthly sanctuary was a figure or pattern of the heavenly, the law deposited in the ark on earth was an exact transcript of the law in the ark in Heaven; and that an acceptance of the truth concerning the heavenly sanctuary involved an acknowledgment of the claims of God’s law, and the obligation of the Sabbath of the fourth commandment. Here was the secret of the bitter and determined opposition to the harmonious exposition of the Scriptures that revealed the ministration of Christ in the heavenly sanctuary. Men sought to close the door which God had opened, and to open the door which he had closed. But “He that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth,” had declared, “Behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it.” [Revelation 3:7, 8.] Christ had opened the door, or ministration, of the most holy place, light was shining from that open door of the sanctuary in Heaven, and the fourth commandment was shown to be included in the law which is there enshrined; what God had established, no man could overthrow. ..." [The Great Controversy 1888, page 435;p; Ellen G. White]

Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast [our] profession. Hebrews 4:14

For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as [we are, yet] without sin. Hebrews 4:15

Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. Hebrews 4:16

It is apparent by the scripture that "we have a great high priest", who being "Jesus the Son of God".

The text says that this "great high priest" is "passed into the Heavens".

Shall we not "hold fast [our] profession" of this very Truth?


So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee. Hebrews 5:5

As he saith also in another [place], Thou [art] a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. Hebrews 5:6

Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec. Hebrews 5:10

It is again apparent that "Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest", even "a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec", and this came from the Father, thus "called of God".

Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing. Hebrews 5:11

For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which [be] the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. Hebrews 5:12

For every one that useth milk [is] unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. Hebrews 5:13

It is quite apparent that Paul is serious about this concept for he says some very straight forward things about this truth, and quite frankly says for those rejecting such an idea as, "dull of hearing", "unskilful in the word of righteousness" and "babes", who needeth someone to "teach you again" even the simplest and "first principles of the oracles of God", and they have yet to be weened from "milk", for they cannot endure the "strong meat".

But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, [even] those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Hebrews 5:14

Where is Christ Jesus now? What is he doing there according to these scriptures? Is it not extremely important?

Let us look at these things...
 
Upvote 0
dude, you are really overdoing the colors.

How about now?

Sanctuary, GOD's Blueprint of the Plan Of Salvation...

Watch the full layout here...

The Blueprint 2011 (Full Version) on Vimeo

...then continue study here...

http://www.christianforums.com/t7624213/#post59544551

"...Many and earnest were the efforts made to overthrow their faith. None could fail to see that if the earthly sanctuary was a figure or pattern of the heavenly, the law deposited in the ark on earth was an exact transcript of the law in the ark in Heaven; and that an acceptance of the truth concerning the heavenly sanctuary involved an acknowledgment of the claims of God’s law, and the obligation of the Sabbath of the fourth commandment. Here was the secret of the bitter and determined opposition to the harmonious exposition of the Scriptures that revealed the ministration of Christ in the heavenly sanctuary. Men sought to close the door which God had opened, and to open the door which he had closed. But “He that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth,” had declared, “Behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it.” [Revelation 3:7, 8.] Christ had opened the door, or ministration, of the most holy place, light was shining from that open door of the sanctuary in Heaven, and the fourth commandment was shown to be included in the law which is there enshrined; what God had established, no man could overthrow. ..." [The Great Controversy 1888, page 435;p; Ellen G. White]

Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast [our] profession. Hebrews 4:14

For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as [we are, yet] without sin. Hebrews 4:15

Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. Hebrews 4:16

It is apparent by the scripture that "we have a great high priest", who being "Jesus the Son of God".

The text says that this "great high priest" is "passed into the Heavens".

Shall we not "hold fast [our] profession" of this very Truth?


So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee. Hebrews 5:5

As he saith also in another [place], Thou [art] a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. Hebrews 5:6

Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec. Hebrews 5:10

It is again apparent that "Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest", even "a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec", and this came from the Father, thus "called of God".

Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing. Hebrews 5:11

For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which [be] the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. Hebrews 5:12

For every one that useth milk [is] unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. Hebrews 5:13

It is quite apparent that Paul is serious about this concept for he says some very straight forward things about this truth, and quite frankly says for those rejecting such an idea as, "dull of hearing", "unskilful in the word of righteousness" and "babes", who needeth someone to "teach you again" even the simplest and "first principles of the oracles of God", and they have yet to be weened from "milk", for they cannot endure the "strong meat".

But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, [even] those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Hebrews 5:14

Where is Christ Jesus now? What is he doing there according to these scriptures? Is it not extremely important?

Let us look at these things...


 
Upvote 0

Pythons

Well-Known Member
Feb 17, 2008
4,215
226
✟5,503.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
I don't think the sincere Christian has any negative issue about the Jewish Sanctuary...
...Nor how it was a shadow which met it's reality in Christ who fulfilled the Law & Prophets.
...What I think strikes most Christians odd ( except Seventh-day Adventists ).
...Is the SDA premise that Christ fulfilled the prophecy of Daniel 7,14 in 1844 on October 22.

Daniel 7,13
I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and CAME TO the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed

I think everyone aside from SDA's view this prophecy as being fulfilled by Christ after His Resurrection....
...And subsequent Ascension into heaven where in glorified flesh He sits at the right hand of The Father.
...& from thence shall come to judge the living and the dead.

Catechism of the Catholic Church
663
Henceforth Christ is seated at the right hand of the Father: "By 'the Father's right hand' we understand the glory and honour of divinity, where he who exists as Son of God before all ages, indeed as God, of one being with the Father, is seated bodily after he became incarnate and his flesh was glorified."545

664
Being seated at the Father's right hand signifies the inauguration of the Messiah's kingdom, the fulfilment OF the prophet Daniel's vision concerning the Son of man: "To him was given dominion and glory and kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve him; his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom one that shall not be destroyed."546 After this event the apostles became witnesses of the "kingdom [that] will have no end".547

 
Upvote 0
I don't think the sincere Christian has any negative issue about the Jewish Sanctuary.....

Saul, Saul...

...'jewish sanctuary'... the plan of salvation is for all mankind... of which the Jews were to be a light to the world... even as it was in the time of early Solomon.
...Having been Roman Catholic for 30 years, it is demonstrably so, that they very much so, cast that vital truth of the Heavenly Sanctuary to the ground.

A picture is worth how many words?

...the Book of Hebrews clearly reveals that the shadow and pattern of the earthly is for the greater, anti-type and reality, the one from which it came, the one in Heaven, in which Christ Jesus, the Great High Priest, even now, ministers.
 
Upvote 0
JESUS being 30 years old:

Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, Luke 3:21

And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. Luke 3:22

And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was [the son] of Heli, Luke 3:23

The very age given in scripture:

From thirty years old and upward even until fifty years old, all that enter into the host, to do the work in the tabernacle of the congregation. Numbers 4:3

From thirty years old and upward until fifty years old shalt thou number them; all that enter in to perform the service, to do the work in the tabernacle of the congregation. Numbers 4:23

From thirty years old and upward even unto fifty years old shalt thou number them, every one that entereth into the service, to do the work of the tabernacle of the congregation. Numbers 4:30

From thirty years old and upward even unto fifty years old, every one that entereth into the service, for the work in the tabernacle of the congregation: Numbers 4:35

From thirty years old and upward even unto fifty years old, every one that entereth into the service, for the work in the tabernacle of the congregation, Numbers 4:39

From thirty years old and upward even unto fifty years old, every one that entereth into the service, for the work in the tabernacle of the congregation, Numbers 4:43

From thirty years old and upward even unto fifty years old, every one that came to do the service of the ministry, and the service of the burden in the tabernacle of the congregation, Numbers 4:47

JESUS was to minister for 3 1/2 years and then be "cut off", but not for HIMSELF:

At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew [thee]; for thou [art] greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision. Daniel 9:23

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.Daniel 9:24

]Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.Daniel 9:25

And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. Daniel 9:26

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Daniel 9:27

The Time of this prophecy was coming to a close...

Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men. Matthew 2:16

The 69 Weeks [weeks of years] of Daniel coming to an end in fulfillment [having begun in 457 BC; Ezra 7, etc [457 BC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia] [Artaxerxes I of Persia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia] [File:Ezrachonology.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]]:

From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Matthew 4:17

And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. Mark 1:15
Christ Jesus did indeed ministers for that 1/2 week [3 1/2 days/years, from AD 27 - AD 31]:

Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judaea, and Herod being tetrarch of Galilee, and his brother Philip tetrarch of Ituraea and of the region of Trachonitis, and Lysanias the tetrarch of Abilene, Luke 3:1 [Tiberius - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia] [File:TwentySevenAD.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia] [Pontius Pilate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia] [Philip the Tetrarch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia] [Herod the Great - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]

Annas and Caiaphas being the high priests, the word of God came unto John the son of Zacharias in the wilderness. Luke 3:2

And he said, Go into the city to such a man, and say unto him, The Master saith, My time is at hand; I will keep the passover at thy house with my disciples. Matthew 26:18

And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation. Luke 19:44

JESUS then at the 'last supper', again in fulfillment of Daniel 9 [vs 27, etc], "blood", "covenant/testament" and "many":

For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. Matthew 26:28

And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many. Mark 14:24

Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup [is] the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you. Luke 22:20

After the same manner also [he took] the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink [it], in remembrance of me. 1 Corinthians 11:25

And more of which we will consider in Hebrews to come...

After JESUS was crucified, died was buried [6th day, preparation day], lay in the tomb [sabbath according to the commandment, and 'high day', feast sabbath and commandment sabbath meeting that year] and resurrected ['first [day] of the 'week']...

Since CHRIST JESUS died in the "midst of the week", HE confirms the remainder of the 3 1/2 day/years through HIS disciples and ended with the stoning of Stephen [who died], being rejected of the council [as had JESUS], condemned to die [as had JESUS], taken outside [as had JESUS] and killed [as had JESUS] and Stephen prays for their forgiveness [as had JESUS], thus the 70 weeks of Daniel were completely fulfilled, but much more remained of the prophecy...:

How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard [him]; Hebrews 2:3

The 1st time JESUS ascended, and went to the FATHER was directly after HIS Resurrection:

Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and [to] my God, and your God. John 20:17

Whereupon neither the first [testament] was dedicated without blood. Hebrews 9:18

For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people, Hebrews 9:19

Saying, This [is] the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you. Hebrews 9:20

Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry. Hebrews 9:21

This was the Anti-type fulfillment of what Moses [the Prophet] had done for the Sanctuary:

And it came to pass on the day that Moses had fully set up the tabernacle, and had anointed it, and sanctified it, and all the instruments thereof, both the altar and all the vessels thereof, and had anointed them, and sanctified them; Numbers 7:1

But Later when HE appears to the Disciples later in the same Day:

And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him. Matthew 28:9

And then spends 40 [of the 50] days [until Pentecost; Acts 2] with various Disciples in various places:

To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God: Acts 1:3

When CHRIST JESUS ascended the 2nd Time into Heaven, HE did so from the Mount Of Olives [Mt. Olivet], signifying the work of the Great High Priest [as Anti-type to Aaron] that was to begin in the HOLY PLACE behind the First Veil, the events concerning the COURTYARD of the True Sacrifice [Cross; Anti-type], etc having taken place on Earth in fulfillment of type:

And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. Acts 1:9

And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Acts 1:10

Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. Acts 1:11

And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and [to] his throne. Revelation 12:5

Which [hope] we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil; Hebrews 6:19

Whither the forerunner is for us entered, [even] Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. Hebrews 6:20

As JESUS then ascended into Heaven, and was received into the Everlasting Doors of that Eternal City:

He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God of his salvation. Psalms 24:5

This [is] the generation of them that seek him, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah. Psalms 24:6

Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. Psalms 24:7

Who [is] this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle. Psalms 24:8

Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift [them] up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. Psalms 24:9

Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he [is] the King of glory. Selah. Psalms 24:10

Then later [days in the upper room of the disciples] on Pentecost the HOLY SPIRIT is poured out [as seen in Joel 2:28-29, even as Peter says]:

And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. Acts 2:1

And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. Acts 2:2

And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. Acts 2:3

And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. Acts 2:4

I would also recommend: http://www.drpipim.org/seminar-hando...pentecost.html

Type had met Anti-type in these events.

Yet in Daniel 8, more events were to occur, "consider the vision" mentioned by Gabriel Daniel 9:23 referencing that which was seen, but not fully understood in Daniel 8:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7562877/

http://forums.carm.org/vbb/showthrea...e-Horn-Babylon

And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. Daniel 8:14

This is the very "vision" [mar'eh] that Gabriel [whom Daniel had previously seen in the 'vision' [chazown]] mentions to Daniel in Daniel 9:23.
 
Upvote 0

Pythons

Well-Known Member
Feb 17, 2008
4,215
226
✟5,503.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Saul, Saul...

...'jewish sanctuary'... the plan of salvation is for all mankind... of which the Jews were to be a light to the world... even as it was in the time of early Solomon.
...Having been Roman Catholic for 30 years, it is demonstrably so, that they very much so, cast that vital truth of the Heavenly Sanctuary to the ground.

A picture is worth how many words?

...the Book of Hebrews clearly reveals that the shadow and pattern of the earthly is for the greater, anti-type and reality, the one from which it came, the one in Heaven, in which Christ Jesus, the Great High Priest, even now, ministers.

And how many Gentiles do you believe entered into the Sanctuary...
...Or better yet how many Gentiles went to the Temple subsequent to the Resurrection of Christ.
...So that they might offer sacrifice for their sins in keeping w/ the rubrics of the Temple?

You still have yet to demonstrate how you justify Christ smearing His literal blood around the M.H.P of the heavenly temple....
...On October 22 of 1844.
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums
And how many Gentiles do you believe entered into the Sanctuary...
...Or better yet how many Gentiles went to the Temple subsequent to the Resurrection of Christ.
...So that they might offer sacrifice for their sins in keeping w/ the rubrics of the Temple?

You still have yet to demonstrate how you justify Christ smearing His literal blood around the M.H.P of the heavenly temple....
...On October 22 of 1844.

Saul, Saul...

...each of the first three comments/questions are incorrect starting points.
...additionally another point is incorrect, "smearing...literal..." [why does Rome seem to want to reverse everything, why is that do you think? It is Rome that has bleeding christ's, icons, statues, all over the place, stigmata's, etc; Christ Jesus is resurrected and ascended, not bleeding all over Heaven] we are dealing with typology, Leviticus 16; and shown of the reality in Daniel 8:14 [etc]; Hebrews [which also discusses typology alongside the reality], Revelation, etc.
...It was that the priests entered into the earthly with the blood of an animal as an offering for sin. Christ entered into the heavenly sanctuary by the offering of His own blood, and is therefore the reality and fulifllment of typology.

...yet scripture does say of the Gentiles...,

...of the Gentiles, foretold, "Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;" Isaiah 56:6; "Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer:..." Isaiah 56:7;p and so on.
...and further, it is said, "...how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God." 1 Thessalonians 1:9;p
...further it is said, "...the Gentiles are turned to God." Acts 15:10;p
...further it is said, "...preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein:" Acts 14:15;p [compare to Acts 4:24 and Exodus 20:11]
...further it is said, "And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God." Acts 13:44
...further said by Paul, addressing, "Jews...Gentiles", "Men of Israel...ye that fear GOD", "children of the stock of Abraham...and whosoever among you fearth GOD"
...Paul further reveals that the Gentiles who beleived, "...grafted in...", "graffed...to a good olive tree...", to partake of the "...root..."

...Saul, Saul, why not see, why remain blinded? Let Christ Jesus remove the scales from your eyes... and see...
 
Upvote 0

Pythons

Well-Known Member
Feb 17, 2008
4,215
226
✟5,503.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Saul, Saul...

...each of the first three comments/questions are incorrect starting points.
...additionally another point is incorrect, "smearing...literal..." [why does Rome seem to want to reverse everything, why is that do you think?

It's your theology so simply "own it".


3 Angels Messages said:
It is Rome that has bleeding christ's, icons, statues, all over the place, stigmata's, etc; Christ Jesus is resurrected and ascended, not bleeding all over Heaven] we are dealing with typology, Leviticus 16; and shown of the reality in Daniel 8:14 [etc]; Hebrews [which also discusses typology alongside the reality], Revelation, etc.

That's simply because the Catholic Church preaches the Faith of the Apostles...
...And part of that Faith was preaching Christ "crucified".

1 Cor 1,23
But we PREACH Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness





3 angels messages said:
...It was that the priests entered into the earthly with the blood of an animal as an offering for sin. Christ entered into the heavenly sanctuary by the offering of His own blood, and is therefore the reality and fulifllment of typology.

...yet scripture does say of the Gentiles...,

...of the Gentiles, foretold, "Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;" Isaiah 56:6; "Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer:..." Isaiah 56:7;p and so on.
...and further, it is said, "...how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God." 1 Thessalonians 1:9;p
...further it is said, "...the Gentiles are turned to God." Acts 15:10;p
...further it is said, "...preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein:" Acts 14:15;p [compare to Acts 4:24 and Exodus 20:11]
...further it is said, "And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God." Acts 13:44
...further said by Paul, addressing, "Jews...Gentiles", "Men of Israel...ye that fear GOD", "children of the stock of Abraham...and whosoever among you fearth GOD"
...Paul further reveals that the Gentiles who beleived, "...grafted in...", "graffed...to a good olive tree...", to partake of the "...root..."

...Saul, Saul, why not see, why remain blinded? Let Christ Jesus remove the scales from your eyes... and see...


Is it not SDA theology that states that Christ, on 22 October 1844 entered the 2nd apartment...
...Of the heavenly sanctuary to "clean it" and perferm the literal task.
...Of cleansing the Sanctuary as per the law.

A simple yes or no answer will do here 3 A.M.

If you would prefer I can help things out by quoting SDA teaching in this area.
 
Upvote 0

whitetiger1

Well-Known Member
Sep 3, 2011
1,383
57
in front of my computer
✟1,946.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Is it not SDA theology that states that Christ, on 22 October 1844 entered the 2nd apartment...
...Of the heavenly sanctuary to "clean it" and perferm the literal task.
...Of cleansing the Sanctuary as per the law.
Using the Bible alone, anything can be "true".
smiley_nope.gif
 
Upvote 0
...

As JESUS then ascended into Heaven, and was received into the Everlasting Doors of that Eternal City:

He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God of his salvation. Psalms 24:5

This [is] the generation of them that seek him, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah. Psalms 24:6

Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. Psalms 24:7

Who [is] this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle. Psalms 24:8

Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift [them] up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. Psalms 24:9

Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he [is] the King of glory. Selah. Psalms 24:10

Then later [days in the upper room of the disciples] on Pentecost the HOLY SPIRIT is poured out [as seen in Joel 2:28-29, even as Peter says]:

And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. Acts 2:1

And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. Acts 2:2

And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. Acts 2:3

And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. Acts 2:4

I would also recommend: http://www.drpipim.org/seminar-hando...pentecost.html

Type had met Anti-type in these events.

Yet in Daniel 8, more events were to occur, "consider the vision" mentioned by Gabriel Daniel 9:23 referencing that which was seen, but not fully understood in Daniel 8:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7562877/

http://forums.carm.org/vbb/showthrea...e-Horn-Babylon

And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. Daniel 8:14

This is the very "vision" [mar'eh] that Gabriel [whom Daniel had previously seen in the 'vision' [chazown]] mentions to Daniel in Daniel 9:23.



And moreso upon this point of the HOLY SPIRIT being poured out, notice with me please the context:

[[A Song of degrees of David.]] Behold, how good and how pleasant [it is] for brethren to dwell together in unity! Psalms 133:1

[It is] like the precious ointment upon the head, that ran down upon the beard, [even] Aaron's beard: that went down to the skirts of his garments; Psalms 133:2

As the dew of Hermon, [and as the dew] that descended upon the mountains of Zion: for there the LORD commanded the blessing, [even] life for evermore. Psalms 133:3

And he poured of the anointing oil upon Aaron's head, and anointed him, to sanctify him. Leviticus 8:12

Anointing of the Head, down to the body...

And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. Acts 2:1
 
Upvote 0

tall73

Sophia7's husband
Site Supporter
Sep 23, 2005
31,991
5,854
Visit site
✟877,052.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Is it not SDA theology that states that Christ, on 22 October 1844 entered the 2nd apartment...
...Of the heavenly sanctuary to "clean it" and perferm the literal task.
...Of cleansing the Sanctuary as per the law.

A simple yes or no answer will do here 3 A.M.

If you would prefer I can help things out by quoting SDA teaching in this area.

In 1844, at the end of the prophetic period of 2300 days, He entered the second and last phase of His atoning ministry. It is a work of investigative judgment which is part of the ultimate disposition of all sin, typified by the cleansing of the ancient Hebrew sanctuary on the Day of Atonement. In that typical service the sanctuary was cleansed with the blood of animal sacrifices, but the heavenly things are purified with the perfect sacrifice of the blood of Jesus. (Adventist Fundamental Belief #24)



Just to speed things along.
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums
[It was] therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. [Hebrews 9:23]

The earthly [patterned after the heavenly], "patterns of things in the heavens", was to be "purified" with those typological sacrifices...

...BUT, says the Holy Scriptures, the Heavenly Sanctuary [the True Tabernacle], "the heavenly things themselves", must be "purified" with "better sacrifices" than the typological ones...

Hebrews 9:23, among many other texts reveals that the Heavenly Sanctuary was to be cleansed and purified... and so in comes Leviticus 16, 23 and Daniel 8:14 [etal], Hebrews, Revelation, etc.

Looking still further at the Text of Hebrews 9:23, we shall look closer at this "purified",

[It was] therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. Hebrews 9:23 KJV

anagkh oun ta men upodeigmata twn en toiV ouranoiV toutoiV kaqarizesqai auta de ta epourania kreittosin qusiaiV para tautaV Hebrews 9:23 [Stephen's 1550 Textus Receptus] [also Scrivener 1894 Textus Receptus, Byzantine Majority, Alexandrian, and even the Westcott and Hort, all in complete agreement on this text, without variation]

Now let us compare this to Daniel 8:14:

And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. Daniel 8:14 KJV

ויאמר אלי עד ערב
בקר אלפים ושלש
מאות ונצדק קדש׃
Daniel 8:14 [Modern Hebrew]

In the Greek LXX [Septuagint]:

14. kai eipen autw ews esperas kai prwi hmerai disciliai kai triakosiai kai kaqarisqhsetai to agion Daniel 8:14 LXX [Greek Translit.]

14. καὶ εἶπεν αὐτῷ ἕως ἑσπέρας καὶ πρωὶ ἡμέραι δισχίλιαι τριακόσιαι καὶ καθαρισθήσεται τὸ ἅγιον Daniel 8:14 LXX [Greek]

What shall we notice? The exact same word is used in Hebrews 9:23, as it is in the Daniel 8:14 LXX passage. From the Greek word "katharizō" "καθαρίζω"; meaning "1) to make clean, cleanse; a) from physical stains and dirt; 1) utensils, food; 2) a leper, to cleanse by curing; 3) to remove by cleansing; b) in a moral sense; 1) to free from defilement of sin and from faults; 2) to purify from wickedness; 3) to free from guilt of sin, to purify; 4) to consecrate by cleansing or purifying; 5) to consecrate, dedicate; 2) to pronounce clean in a levitical sense" [Strong's Concordance] Translated into the English as: "AV — cleanse 16, make clean 5, be clean 3, purge 3, purify 3"
 
Upvote 0
In 1844, at the end of the prophetic period of 2300 days, He entered the second and last phase of His atoning ministry. It is a work of investigative judgment which is part of the ultimate disposition of all sin, typified by the cleansing of the ancient Hebrew sanctuary on the Day of Atonement. In that typical service the sanctuary was cleansed with the blood of animal sacrifices, but the heavenly things are purified with the perfect sacrifice of the blood of Jesus. (Adventist Fundamental Belief #24)

Just to speed things along.

Thank you for citing it. Is there anything in that statement you have a question or concern over in regards to scriptures?
 
Upvote 0
Now that we have looked briefly at the earthly Sanctuary of God as it was, and we have seen the Heavenly as it is now, by faith, wherein Christ Jesus is entered for us, now, shall we see that there is a false system on this earth ...

"...the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth..."

"...the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth..."
...let's look at the 'sanctuary' of the Dragon...
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums
Now that we have looked briefly at the earthly Sanctuary of God as it was, and we have seen the Heavenly as it is now, by faith, wherein Christ Jesus is entered for us, now, shall we see that there is a false system on this earth ...

"...the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth..."

"...the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth..."
...let's look at the 'sanctuary' of the Dragon...

...unto the earth...

A picture is worth how many words?

9.jpg


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XutvOfOj_Dw/SkfZRpo86lI/AAAAAAAAAhY/nGq-LItuIvs/s1600-h/9.jp


In this picture, please notice carefully where the 'pope' is sitting. We will notice that he is sitting on a Great White Throne [as Latin: "Vicarius Christi", "in the place of [Jesus] Christ", the very same meaning for the Greek, 'anti-christos', anti - in the place of/instead of; christos - christ], High Up above everyone else.

Surrounding, and on each side of, this Great White Throne are Two Golden Angels [like the covering Cherubim by the throne of God; which satan/lucifer once was], just as was there were two on the Ark surrounding the Shekinah Glory of GOD who rested above "the Ark of the Covenant" [representing the very Throne of GOD] in "the Most Holy Place" of the True Sanctuary.

Notice also very carefully the 'four living creatures' [in this case, four humans!, worship of man...] surrounding him, along with the congregation before him. They have replaced the Heavenly with an earthly. They are not entered in by Faith with Christ Jesus into the Heavenly Most Holy Place, but place their faith in that which is done on earth. The Truth has been "cast down" to "the ground"...

...whatsoever is not of faith is sin... and sin is the transgression of the law...

...yet here is another which claims supreme and plenary authority in the matter of "morals and faith".

There is a whole lot more to the "sanctuary" they have on earth... an antichristian [Greek: Anti Christ; "in the place of Christ"] sanctuary, highpriest, priests and its services - all having replaced Christ's Ministry in the Heavenly [see Daniel, Hebrews, Revelation, etc]...

VesperPeterPaul8.jpg


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_71ZPiLxOVfU/SkeboUApWTI/AAAAAAAADlI/IyTInKSYX9g/s1600-h/VesperPeterPaul8.jpg



sanpaul_PBVXI_clip_image004.jpg


http://www.motherteresa.org/st_paul/sanpaul_PBVXI_clip_image004.jpg

sanpaul_PBVXI_clip_image006.jpg


http://www.motherteresa.org/st_paul/sanpaul_PBVXI_clip_image006.jpg

Jesus Christ is calling all out of this system of worship, for it is not of faith. Christ Jesus says, "Follow me..." and He is ascended into Heaven as our Great High Priest and ministers there in the Heavenly Sanctuary:

But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; Hebrews 9:11

How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? Hebrews 9:14 [not by men, nor mary, nor any other, and He was "once offered" for all, Christ Jesus offered Himself through the eternal [Holy] Spirit without spot unto God the Father]

[It was] therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. Hebrews 9:23

For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, [which are] the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: Hebrews 9:24

Jesus Christ, wants everyone to know what He has done, is doing even now in the Heavenly , and will yet do for you and I. But this system on earth is hiding and shrouding His ministry above and casting it to the ground...

He is coming again soon, "without sin unto salvation":

So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. Hebrews 9:28

And where must you look? Where must He come out of? In order to blot out sins, what must be done first? Search the scriptures... Leviticus 16, begin there.

What will your choice be, now that you have seen? Will you choose to continue to believe in the service below by men, or in the Heavenly one above by Christ Jesus himself, but it cannot, and is even impossible, to be both. Choose ye this day whom ye will serve, and follow by faith.

Remember, it was Christ Jesus who came down to earth, stepped down from His Throne in glory, came down, down, down... stepping lower, condescending to become a man, after the flesh, "of the seed of David" and "Abraham", to save us. His love has been shown... it was shown upon the Cross at Calvary...

He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him. Matthew 27:42

What statements in contrast to the faith of the Son of God, Jesus Christ. He chose to remain upon that Cross until death to save us, and not save Himself. His love is eternally manifested. Should He have chosen to come down from that Cross, all of us would be lost and without hope. But now He is risen, He is not here, and is ascended into the Heavenly, the True Tabernacle, which the Lord pitched and not man, to minister there on our behalf...

...come out of her my People, says Jesus... that ye be not partakers of her plagues... for she was given space to repent and she will not...

Read the Books of Hebrews, Leviticus 16, Daniel and Revelation...

What shall be shown next? There is a great deal more ...
 
Upvote 0