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[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][FONT=Bookman Old Style,serif][FONT=Bookman Old Style, serif]When you are right, you're right! Everything is a matter of right and wrong, right? So, if people don't see that you are right, then your only real choice is to argue with them, right? After all, they have to be convinced you are right, right? [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]However, "Intelligent people are always open to new ideas. In fact, they look for them." Prov. 18:15[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]We are all learning...no one has achieved yet....so instead of looking for what is wrong with someones post or reply...look for what is right about it. Then in so doing, you also put the other person at ease and facilitate discussion, instead of argument. [/FONT]
"Yes, I try to find common ground with everyone so that I might bring them to Christ." 1 Cor. 9:22
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]Everyone is in a different place: Spiritually, in their maturity, faith, knowledge and personal walk. As well as in all the other ways ~ culturally, age-wise, upbringing and gender ~ therefore it is a good possibility they may express themselves differently then you do. It is also hard to express unearthly-spiritual thought many times using mere earthly-human written words...especially with no facial expression, body language and tone of voice. [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"Man looks at what is on the outside, but God looks at what is in the heart." 1 Sam. 16:7[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]And, argument only puts the other person on the defense and closes their heart to what you have to say.[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"Zeal without knowledge is not good; a person who moves too quickly may go the wrong way." Prov. 19:2[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]If it appears that the other's post or reply is in error, or is not the same opinion as yours...then inquire further to make sure you have everything clarified first...make sure you have the truth concerning what the other person is really trying to say...then proceed, however, proceed with what the bible calls humility and wisdom.[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"Fools have no interest in understanding; they only want to air their own opinions." Prov. 18:2[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"The Godly think before speaking, the wicked spout evil words." Prov. 15:28[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"A wise person is hungry for the truth. While the fool feeds on trash." Prov. 15:14[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"It is better to be patient, then powerful. It is better to have self-control then to conquer a city." Prov. 16:32[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]Then, as the discussion proceeds, it is much more productive to not put the other persons opinion down along the way...which again, just puts the other person on the defense and can incite an argument...which closes hearts to listening...and just becomes a show of who's ego is bigger. [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"He must increase, and I must decrease." John 3:30[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]Anyway, has anyone really changed somebody's mind by arguing with them??[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"A gentle answer turns away wrath. But harsh words stir up anger." Prov. 15:1[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"Beginning a quarrel opens up the flood gate, so drop a matter before a dispute breaks out." Prov. 17:14[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"A truly wise person uses few words. A person with understanding is even-tempered." Prov. 17:27[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]So, you really want someone to listen to what you have to say? Then remember to speak in a way that glorifies Christ and His love...and then with this in mind, as you speak you will much more likely be heard. [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]Also, "Accept Christians who are weak in the faith, and don't argue with them about what they think is right and wrong...They are responsible to the Lord, so let Him tell them whether they are right or wrong. The Lords power will help them do as they should." Romans 14:1-4[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]There is always a flip-side, however. It does not show any love by engaging in someone's arguments. If someone wants to quarrel with you, remember, they are probably not really interested in what you have to say. They are probably more interested in hearing themselves talk and in wasting your time.[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"When arguing with fools, do not answer their foolish arguments, or you become as foolish as they are." Prov. 26:4[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"In the mouth of a fool, a proverb becomes as limp as a paralyzed leg." Prov. 26:7 [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"Honoring a fool (with your time) is as foolish as tying a stone to a slingshot." Prov. 26:8 Ouch! [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]Walk in the Holy Spirit in everything you do...and you will not satisfy the flesh's desires. Show love, and be a peacemaker. Also, kindness and gentleness...treating others the way you would want to be treated, not in the way they are treating you...and in this way you will show tremendous faith in God. Galatians 5:16-26[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]God created the heavens and the earth...and all things on the earth without our help. So, He can surely convince the hearts of the people that He created, about His truths, all by Himself...also without our help.[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][FONT=garamond, new york, times, serif]Note: When Jesus confronted, He did not debate. He said His truth and did not argue about it...as there is no reason for that, as truth can stand on it's own. The Pharisees would bait Him, but He did not give in to carnality/debate. Debate is two sided and involves opinion. Confrontation is one sided...as it listens to the other, but does not force/fight/debate, as the truth needs no one to force it, as it is Spiritually revealed and understood anyway. [/FONT]
[FONT=garamond, new york, times, serif]Discussion involves respect for each other's opinions and view points. There is openness and a heart for learning more...and not just in spouting out your view and demanding others comply. [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"If you want Christ to be at the center of your life, then love what is at the center of His." By J.E.Sorge[/FONT]
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[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]However, "Intelligent people are always open to new ideas. In fact, they look for them." Prov. 18:15[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]We are all learning...no one has achieved yet....so instead of looking for what is wrong with someones post or reply...look for what is right about it. Then in so doing, you also put the other person at ease and facilitate discussion, instead of argument. [/FONT]
"Yes, I try to find common ground with everyone so that I might bring them to Christ." 1 Cor. 9:22
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]Everyone is in a different place: Spiritually, in their maturity, faith, knowledge and personal walk. As well as in all the other ways ~ culturally, age-wise, upbringing and gender ~ therefore it is a good possibility they may express themselves differently then you do. It is also hard to express unearthly-spiritual thought many times using mere earthly-human written words...especially with no facial expression, body language and tone of voice. [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"Man looks at what is on the outside, but God looks at what is in the heart." 1 Sam. 16:7[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]And, argument only puts the other person on the defense and closes their heart to what you have to say.[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"Zeal without knowledge is not good; a person who moves too quickly may go the wrong way." Prov. 19:2[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]If it appears that the other's post or reply is in error, or is not the same opinion as yours...then inquire further to make sure you have everything clarified first...make sure you have the truth concerning what the other person is really trying to say...then proceed, however, proceed with what the bible calls humility and wisdom.[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"Fools have no interest in understanding; they only want to air their own opinions." Prov. 18:2[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"The Godly think before speaking, the wicked spout evil words." Prov. 15:28[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"A wise person is hungry for the truth. While the fool feeds on trash." Prov. 15:14[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"It is better to be patient, then powerful. It is better to have self-control then to conquer a city." Prov. 16:32[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]Then, as the discussion proceeds, it is much more productive to not put the other persons opinion down along the way...which again, just puts the other person on the defense and can incite an argument...which closes hearts to listening...and just becomes a show of who's ego is bigger. [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"He must increase, and I must decrease." John 3:30[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]Anyway, has anyone really changed somebody's mind by arguing with them??[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"A gentle answer turns away wrath. But harsh words stir up anger." Prov. 15:1[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"Beginning a quarrel opens up the flood gate, so drop a matter before a dispute breaks out." Prov. 17:14[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"A truly wise person uses few words. A person with understanding is even-tempered." Prov. 17:27[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]So, you really want someone to listen to what you have to say? Then remember to speak in a way that glorifies Christ and His love...and then with this in mind, as you speak you will much more likely be heard. [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]Also, "Accept Christians who are weak in the faith, and don't argue with them about what they think is right and wrong...They are responsible to the Lord, so let Him tell them whether they are right or wrong. The Lords power will help them do as they should." Romans 14:1-4[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]There is always a flip-side, however. It does not show any love by engaging in someone's arguments. If someone wants to quarrel with you, remember, they are probably not really interested in what you have to say. They are probably more interested in hearing themselves talk and in wasting your time.[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"When arguing with fools, do not answer their foolish arguments, or you become as foolish as they are." Prov. 26:4[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"In the mouth of a fool, a proverb becomes as limp as a paralyzed leg." Prov. 26:7 [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"Honoring a fool (with your time) is as foolish as tying a stone to a slingshot." Prov. 26:8 Ouch! [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]Walk in the Holy Spirit in everything you do...and you will not satisfy the flesh's desires. Show love, and be a peacemaker. Also, kindness and gentleness...treating others the way you would want to be treated, not in the way they are treating you...and in this way you will show tremendous faith in God. Galatians 5:16-26[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]God created the heavens and the earth...and all things on the earth without our help. So, He can surely convince the hearts of the people that He created, about His truths, all by Himself...also without our help.[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][FONT=garamond, new york, times, serif]Note: When Jesus confronted, He did not debate. He said His truth and did not argue about it...as there is no reason for that, as truth can stand on it's own. The Pharisees would bait Him, but He did not give in to carnality/debate. Debate is two sided and involves opinion. Confrontation is one sided...as it listens to the other, but does not force/fight/debate, as the truth needs no one to force it, as it is Spiritually revealed and understood anyway. [/FONT]
[FONT=garamond, new york, times, serif]Discussion involves respect for each other's opinions and view points. There is openness and a heart for learning more...and not just in spouting out your view and demanding others comply. [/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]"If you want Christ to be at the center of your life, then love what is at the center of His." By J.E.Sorge[/FONT]
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