Mighty Angel

InSpiritInTruth · Dec 26, 2011

In Revelation 10:1 we read;"And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face shown as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire.

This image, is the image of the Body of Christ coming in the clouds as is prophesied. Just as we see in Revelation 14:14 a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man..."

The cloud refers to the great cloud of witness, witnessed by the children of light. In Hebrews 12:1 we read;"Wherefore seeing we also are compassed bout with so great cloud of witnesss, let us lay aside every weight, and sin that does so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us."

In Exodus 13:21 we see;"And the Lord went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night.

This is also why the Mighty Angel had feet like pillars of fire, just as this present world is in darkness. The Lord said heaven is his throne, and the earth is his foot stool.

This Mighty Angel clothed with the cloud, had a face that shown as it were the sun was also shown in Jesus in the mount of transfiguration.

Matthew 17:2;"And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light." Just as we, like the woman with a crown of 12 stars are clothed with the sun, white as the light.

The children of light, are of the day, which make up this great cloud of witness. But the children of darkness are clothed with fire.

Jesus said as long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world. Jesus also said in John 9:4;"I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is yet day; the night comes, when no man can work."

So when Jesus ascended in the cloud, the light also ascended with him, and darkness soon followed; and with the darkness came also the fire. Jesus also said in Luke 12:49;"I am come to send a fire on the earth." Just as the Mighty Angels feet were like pillars of fire.

We also see in Revelation 10:1 there was a rainbow upon his head.
We read...
Genesis 9:13
I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
Genesis 9:14
And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:

Genesis 9:16
And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.

This bow in the cloud is the fulfillment of the promise shown in Isaiah 54:7-9;"For a small moment I have forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee. In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the Lord thy Redeemer. For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee."

In this we see the promise of the Father being fulfilled by Jesus coming in the clouds, with the rainbow of glory upon his head.
We see this appearance of the glory of the Lord shown in Ezekiel...
Ezekiel 1:28
As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.

And also here in Revelation 4:3 in the likeness of the throne, and one that sat on the throne.

Revelation 4:3;"And he that sat was to look upon like jasper and sardine stone, and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald."

So awake all you children of light, arise and shine; for a new day does dawn, and the night, along with the darkness shall soon be over.

Come, all you children of the Most High, come and worship before his throne, and let the Lord of light shine forth in your hearts. Amen.

Fireinfolding · Dec 26, 2011

Now this one I am not too sure, I have a little difficulty with catching this one bro, even though there are like comparisons.

I suppose because in one similitude there is a singular pillar of fire (by night) which followed after (a cloud by day) and am catching the token of bow (within) as equal to the appearance of the brightness round about, or as the likeness of the glory of the LORD in the cloud. And Christ also (when he asended) being received and hidden from sight by a cloud (and yet) in the same like manner he will come and we are also as a great cloud of witnesses. And speaks of him being glorified in them.

Whereas in the other there is a singular mighty angel (descends from heaven) whose feet are as pillars (plural) of fire. There, showing the mighty angel's foot is planted (one foot) upon the sea (and the other foot) on the earth, and swares by him that lives for ever which somwhat reflects (though vaguely) the man in linen in Daniel. Both also seem to mrror "times" in their pictures the former asked how long? In respects to times and the later says, there shall be "time no longer". And also just as the Son of man in Ezekiel is told to eat the roll and go to the house of Israel, even as Christ said that he was not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel, John likewise is instructed to take the little book which is opened in his hand and eat that (just as the former) and he was told "Thou must prophesy unto nations tongues and kings" . Like the vision is split between two and sometimes I feel I can sorta see that in some types and other times I just thnk I must be crazy ^_^

So Im not sure I am catching it aright always. Well... I havent sought any patern in the mighty angel by itself yet, so I dont know. However, similiarities noted, I have compared but not in the same way (but as I caught it above) so I have not made my connections in the same way, just per The Son of man's (to Israel's) instruction and the mighty angel and Johns instruction (to both eat and speak and to whom). Though am curious why the bitter belly is missing from the former but shown in the latter. Hey, but maybe you could further clarify how you might work that one in? Maybe that will help me some more, do you have any further thoughts on that one bro? Id be curious about that

God bless you brother

InSpiritInTruth · Dec 26, 2011

I was seeing the connection between the Son of man, or Body of Christ,(which we are of) being clothed with the clouds(great cloud witness) coming with the angels, in the glory (rainbow) of the Father. (Matthew 16:27.)

But the face that shown like the sun, is the same image we see in Jesus on the mount when the cloud descended.

Pillars of fire(plural) can be shown in the Lords host in Joel 2:3 with a fire that devoured before them, and also behind them. Just like the fiery stream that ussued before the Ancient of days in Daniel 7:10.

Also in Daniel 7:13 Daniel saw one like the Son of man who came with the clouds, and came to the Ancient of days.

Also, I was looking at the timeing at which this Angel came, which was after the 6th, and right before the sounding of the 7th trump, or last trump.(Rev 10:7)

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

King James Version (KJV)

16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

I suppose looking at these last verses one could say the Mighty Angel is the archangel, sent prior to the Lord descending. After all the mighty angel does cry with a loud voice, as when a lion roars.

But I guess I was thinking the last trump was blown by the 7th angel?

This change at the last trump is shown in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52, but we are not told who blows it?

So one could say the Mighty Angel, is the arch angel. But why is he dressed like the Son of man?

That is interesting Fire, thanks for pointing that out to me.

Fireinfolding · Dec 26, 2011

Possibly bro, because I sure havent gotten all my angels in good order ^_^

But yes! I noticed the same thing! There seems to be an order to the roar, and I was searching this very thing out butI got nowheres with it yet...

Im telling ya bro, I chase my tail more then I'd really like to ^_^

Im still sorting these things, but theres too much happening for me to place the right things and not enough clues for me, too vague yet, but always wondering

These are a few I was looking at (sorry I repeat) but like this one

Job 37:2 Hear attentively the noise of his voice, and the sound that goeth out of his mouth.

Job 37:4 After it a voice roareth: he thundereth with the voice of his excellency; and he will not stay them when his voice is heard.

The when thing and when thing

Rev 10:3 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.

Then theres Amos 3:4-7 about a lion roaring when it has prey

Job 37:5 God thundereth marvellously with his voice; great things doeth he, which we cannot comprehend.

Rev 10:4And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.

Dont even ask... I wish that one was reversed lol

Jerm 51:55the LORD hath spoiled Babylon, and destroyed out of her the great voice; when her waves do roar like great waters, a noise of their voice is uttered

Hosea 11:10 They shall walk after the LORD: he shall roar like a lion: when he shall roar, then the children shall tremble from the west.

Rev 10:3 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.

Job 37:4 After it a voice roareth: he thundereth with the voice of his excellency; and he will not stay them when his voice is heard.

Who is the staying of "them" whereas in the above the children come from the west in relation to the same? I dont know if theres anything being hinted it

I keep repeating because one thing reminds you of another and sometimes theres clues left in strange places,

Rev 10:4 the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.

That one (for some weird reason always reminds me of this

Numbers 30:8 But if her husband disallowed her on the day that he heard it; then he shall make her vow which she vowed, and that which she uttered with her lips, wherewith she bound her soul, of none effect: and the LORD shall forgive her.

I dont know, given a record of wrongs (perhaps) which isnt kept? Depending on what the type signifies? I have no idea, because it speaks of sealing up ones trangressiongs or not keeping a record is being shown and the wording sometimes leans me in an odd direction

John 12:29 The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him

And havent a clue why I included that one either, I have absolutely nothing going this route yet, I just see the when thing (with the roar) or something that reminds me of something else, trying to find which is the easiest key to the picture, because once you find that the other portions sorround it seem to fall right into it, ever do that? I have and I pretty much know Im off course ^_^

But sometimes when folks discuss things what someone else might have gathered can be put together with what another might catch and there could be something sitting there that I missed or something, I sorta like that when that happens.

But it does say pay attention to the NOISE of his voice or the SOUND of the same, as if there is great significance in that.

So I am TRYING (to hear) lol

Good Lord please help me... :prayer:

God bless you brother! ^_^

InSpiritInTruth · Dec 26, 2011

I believe I have a better handle, or grip on it now, as you would put it Fire.

The reason the Mighty Angel looks like the Son of man is because he is a reflection of Michael the Prince of the People of Israel.

Daniel 10:21
But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.

Daniel 12:1
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

The Mighty Angel is the sign of the Prince returning to gather his people.

The pillars(plural) are a sign of those who overcome the heat of the fire. In Revelation 3:12 Jesus said "Him that overcomes will I make a pillar in the temple of my God."

The voice of the shout is shown in 1 Samuel 4:5 when the ark of God came into the children of Israel. 1 Samuel 4:5;"And when the ark of the covenant of the Lord came into the camp, all Israel shouted with a great shout, so the earth rang again.

This sign is also shown in the blowing of the trumpets in Zion(Joel 2:1), and we see in Joel 2:10 the earth shall quake before the Lords army.

This is the sign of the lifting up of the voice of the Lords priesthood army, who have heads like lions, and out of their mouths issued fire, smoke, and brimestone. (Revelation 9:17)

Isaiah 24:14;"They shall lift up their voice, they shall sing for the majesty of the Lord, they shall cry aloud from the sea.

Isaiah 52:8;"Thy watchman shall lift up the voice; with the voice together shall they sing: for they shall see eye to eye, when the Lord shall bring again Zion."

This is what Paul spoke of would happen after the fulness of the Gentiles was fulfilled. The deliverer would roar out of Zion. But this voice shall be lifted by many(cloud of witness) of the tribe of Judah(Lion) and of Benjamin.

Judah was the first sealed in Revelation chapter 7, and Benjamin is the last. Jesus said I am the first, and with the last.

Isaiah 58:1;"Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sin."

The reason the Mighty Angel looked like the Son of Man, is because the lions of the tribe of Judah(lawgiver) shall call the children of Israel to repentance. Just like Jesus came only to seek the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Which explains the little book.(little flock)

I like a plan when it comes together.

Fireinfolding · Dec 26, 2011

For you maybe! ^_^

I see some stuff with similiarities but I am not that well versed to be able to see it yet bro

Its also a bit hard for me to get past John eating the little book (as in) eating the little flock? Am I reading that one right? Or might you be implying that John signifies the little flock eating the little book? Because after the angel appears John is sent to prophesy again from that point to nations and kings.

I need to get my angels in order, just not sure yet bro, but you have given me food for thought here thank you very much

But if you mean John ate the flock, I am so not seeing that bro ^_^

You come back and tell me John didnt eat the little flock (ie the little book). Tell me I misunderstood lol

InSpiritInTruth · Dec 26, 2011

Fireinfolding said:
For you maybe! I see some stuff with similiarities but I am not that well versed to be able to see it yet bro

Its also a bit hard for me to get past John eating the little book (as in) eating the little flock? Am I reading that one right? Or might you be implying that John signifies the little flock eating the little book? Because after the angel appears John is sent to prophesy again from that point to nations and kings.

I need to get my angels in order, just not sure yet bro, but you have given me food for thought here thank you very much

But if you mean John ate the flock, I am so not seeing that bro

You come back and tell me John didnt eat the little flock (ie the little book). Tell me I misunderstood lol

You crack me up. I guess John would have to be really hungry to eat the whole flock. ^_^

The little book is given to the little flock of Israel(the remnant) to eat.

You worry me sometimes Sis, but I still luv ya. :hug:

Fireinfolding · Dec 26, 2011

InSpiritInTruth said:
You crack me up. I guess John would have to be really hungry to eat the whole flock.

The little book is given to the little flock of Israel(the remnant) to eat.

You worry me sometimes Sis, but I still luv ya.

Thats how I was reading you on it, can you blame me? I at least asked ya assuming the better of you pal lol

John eats the little flock...?

(has he gone cookoo?)

LOL

Thats much better brother, I thought you had lost your marbles there momentarily, I was just giving you the benefit of the doubt that you have some measure of sanity in you

Hugs back at cha :hug:

(glad you still luv me lol)

Lion King · Dec 26, 2011

Jesus Christ is not Michael the archangel. Michael, although quite powerful is simply a servant of our LORD-Jesus Christ.

(don't really know whether you were trying to imply that. if not, forgive me)

InSpiritInTruth · Dec 26, 2011

Fireinfolding said:
Thats how I was reading you on it, can you blame me? I at least asked ya assuming the better of you pal lol

John eats the little flock...?

(has he gone cookoo?)

LOL

Thats much better brother, I thought you had lost your marbles there momentarily, I was just giving you the benefit of the doubt that you have some measure of sanity in you

Hugs back at cha (glad you still luv me lol)

I'm starting to feel like Paul... :doh:

Acts 26:24
And as he thus spake for himself, Festus said with a loud voice, Paul, thou art beside thyself; much learning doth make thee mad.

InSpiritInTruth · Dec 26, 2011

Lion King said:
Jesus Christ is not Michael the archangel. Michael, although quite powerful is simply a servant of our LORD-Jesus Christ.

(don't really know whether you were trying to imply that. if not, forgive me)

I understand there is a difference, and no problem.

We are all servants of the Lord, just as we all make up the Body of Christ.
I was just trying to show the similitudes, and the likeness shown between the two.

I guess that is why we are told to put on Christ.

Fireinfolding · Dec 26, 2011

InSpiritInTruth said:
I'm starting to feel like Paul...

Acts 26:24
And as he thus spake for himself, Festus said with a loud voice, Paul, thou art beside thyself; much learning doth make thee mad.

I would just say you are crazy ^_^

I thought you'd get a kick out of this

Acts 17:18 Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection.

Ecc 12:11 The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd.

Under Masters ther is the mention of "babbler"

AV — man 25, owner 14, husband 11, have 7, master 5, man given 2, adversary 1, archers 1, babbler + 03956

1, bird + 03671 1, captain 1, confederate + 01285 1, misc 12

I thought that was sorta cute ^_^

Couldnt resist lol

Fireinfolding · Dec 26, 2011

Micheal just means (by name) who is like God?

A name with a question like that huh?

Either way, whichever one puts on is a pretty safe bet wouldnt it be? ^_^

Kidding with ya's

InSpiritInTruth · Dec 26, 2011

Fireinfolding said:
Micheal just means (by name) who is like God?

A name with a question like that huh?

Either way, whichever one puts on is a pretty safe bet wouldnt it be?

Kidding with ya's

See there, I ain't so crazy after all huh?

Well, maybe just a little. :sorry:

Fireinfolding · Dec 26, 2011

InSpiritInTruth said:
See there, I ain't so crazy after all huh? Well, maybe just a little.

Heh heh, clothe yourself with Micheal... (heavenly war archangel)

((shivers))...

I do that with Lion Kings name, I make like those hyenas (in the Lion King movie) I say... MuFaAAsAA! ((shivers)) those hyena's made me laugh... It was a children's flick, but it was one of those "must have's" ^_^

InSpiritInTruth · Dec 26, 2011

Fireinfolding said:
Heh heh, clothe yourself with Micheal... (heavenly war archangel)

((shivers))...

I do that with Lion Kings name, I make like those hyenas (in the Lion King movie) I say... MuFaAAsAA! ((shivers)) those hyena's made me laugh... It was a children's flick, but it was one of those "must have's"

Revelation 12:7
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

Revelation 19:11
And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

I can see the likeness between the two.

Fireinfolding · Dec 26, 2011

InSpiritInTruth said:
Revelation 12:7
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

Revelation 19:11
And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

I can see the likeness between the two.

Yeah but you know how it is around here, dont dare go there ^_^

Forget war in heaven, would you rather a war on the forum?

People are sorta nuts about working something out and comparing things freely and openly, and then a dude with a big sword enters the convesation and starts going at cha which I do find sorta funny, because they oftentimes do the whole process more harm (to the opposite effect)

However, its also interesting it says, Micheal and HIS angels, well given the fact the angels are sorta noted as being in subjection to Christ. But then again, theres generals and stuff (tries to divert the conversation)

Like taboo comparisons if you arent allowed to talk openly and cordially about them they just grow in secret places and come up like mosters later, ever notice that? I have ^_^

Theres some folks you can do that with and it be really productive and others where you just want to shoot yourself for even going there.

I just dont feel like shooting myself right now lol

InSpiritInTruth · Dec 26, 2011

Fireinfolding said:
Micheal just means (by name) who is like God?

A name with a question like that huh?

Either way, whichever one puts on is a pretty safe bet wouldnt it be?

Kidding with ya's

Exodus 15:11
Who is like unto thee, O LORD, among the gods? who is like thee, glorious in holiness, fearful in praises, doing wonders?
Psalm 71:19
Thy righteousness also, O God, is very high, who hast done great things: O God, who is like unto thee!
Psalm 89:8
O LORD God of hosts, who is a strong LORD like unto thee? or to thy faithfulness round about thee?
Psalm 113:5
Who is like unto the LORD our God, who dwelleth on high,
Micah 7:18
Who is a God like unto thee, that pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of his heritage? he retaineth not his anger for ever, because he delighteth in mercy.

If you throw a dog a bone, he just might run with it. ^_^

Fireinfolding · Dec 26, 2011

InSpiritInTruth said:
Exodus 15:11
Who is like unto thee, O LORD, among the gods? who is like thee, glorious in holiness, fearful in praises, doing wonders?
Psalm 71:19
Thy righteousness also, O God, is very high, who hast done great things: O God, who is like unto thee!
Psalm 89:8
O LORD God of hosts, who is a strong LORD like unto thee? or to thy faithfulness round about thee?
Psalm 113:5
Who is like unto the LORD our God, who dwelleth on high,
Micah 7:18
Who is a God like unto thee, that pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of his heritage? he retaineth not his anger for ever, because he delighteth in mercy.

If you throw a dog a bone, he just might run with it.

Oh man... what have I done? ^_^

Im surprised you didnt go for and "WE shall be like him"

Though its funny how I used to avoid that one, because of the other verse (be like God verse) but when I see that verse it reminds me of see him AS he is (merciful) be ye merciful AS he is merciful, the attribute of him that is so lovely about Him. Not that of pride (be like God) but that mercy

How about running these (together) "feeble, David, God, Angel" thats a kool one

You probrobly already have lol

InSpiritInTruth · Dec 27, 2011

John 14:20
At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and you in me, and I in you.

The truth is Fire, God and his Christ can be seen in the likeness of all his host.

But most believers have not yet come to that day.

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