why pit God's witnesses against each other?

Frogster · Jun 27, 2011

visionary said:
Gentiles were not righteous by faith until they believed in Yeshua, as their Messiah, the King of all Kings, the creator of the faith on Mount Sinai.. and redeemer by the rules laid down there.... and giver of life to those who follow Him and His example... not one iota of the law shall be done away with according to Yeshua... until heaven and earth pass away..

Sorry..no fusing...the law is not of faith, and the promise did not, and can not come by law. Rom 4:14, gal 3;18.

The risen Christ, is what we are about, and he is not jewish, and even he died to law, after the ransom was paid, and law abrogation, CAME THE SPIRIT, NOT A JEWISH SPIRIT EITHER.

13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for usfor it is written, Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree 14 so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.

Frogster · Jun 27, 2011

visionary said:
Are you confusing the letter of the law with the spirit and truth of the law... lust vs adultery.. both valid.. just applied wrong by some who like to hammer it over another's head..

you are the one living by the letter though.

Do you see how the law is not of the cross?

3:1 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. 2 Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith?

visionary · Jun 27, 2011

Do you not realize that one of God's witnesses to His truth... is His Law..

LittleLambofJesus · Dec 16, 2011

visionary said:
Do you not realize that one of God's witnesses to His truth... is His Law..

Yep

NKJV) Deuteronomy 31:26 "Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there as a witness against you;

James 75 · Dec 17, 2011

visionary said:
I logically cannot understand how and why there are folks who pit The Torah/law/Word vs The Ruach haKodesh/Holy Spirit vs Grace/Mercy/Love as if they are polar opposites. When in reality and according to the scriptures, they all operate as a UNIT... they give testimony/witness to God's Word/Character/Kingdom, His Essence/Presence, and His Love for us...

Satan presents himself as an angel of light and his ministers present themselves as ministers of righteousness.
The folks you speak of may not realize it but they are at the very least useful idiots.

LittleLambofJesus · Dec 17, 2011

James 75 said:
Satan presents himself as an angel of light and his ministers present themselves as ministers of righteousness.
The folks you speak of may not realize it but they are at the very least useful idiots.

New_Wineskin · Dec 17, 2011

visionary said:
I logically cannot understand how and why there are folks who pit The Torah/law/Word vs The Ruach haKodesh/Holy Spirit vs Grace/Mercy/Love as if they are polar opposites. When in reality and according to the scriptures, they all operate as a UNIT... they give testimony/witness to God's Word/Character/Kingdom, His Essence/Presence, and His Love for us...

If they operate as a "UNIT" , then the Lord was unable to operate until all of the Scriptures were written . Of course , that was well after Jesus died and was risen .

I suppose that you cannot understand there are folks who do what you claim that they do because they don't do it .

visionary · Dec 17, 2011

New_Wineskin said:
If they operate as a "UNIT" , then the Lord was unable to operate until all of the Scriptures were written . Of course , that was well after Jesus died and was risen .

I suppose that you cannot understand there are folks who do what you claim that they do because they don't do it .

Explain the highlighted part further.. the sentence is unclear and I am not sure what you are saying, so am having difficulty figuring it out.

New_Wineskin · Dec 17, 2011

visionary said:
Explain the highlighted part further.. the sentence is unclear and I am not sure what you are saying, so am having difficulty figuring it out.

You highlighted too little of one part ...
I suppose that you cannot understand folks do what you claim that they do because they don't do it .

In other words , when something does not exist , there is no reason why you would understand its existance .

visionary · Dec 17, 2011

New_Wineskin said:
You highlighted too little of one part ...
I suppose that you cannot understand folks do what you claim that they do because they don't do it .

In other words , when something does not exist , there is no reason why you would understand its existance .

What does not exist?

New_Wineskin · Dec 17, 2011

visionary said:
What does not exist?

LOL ! I was about to actually answer that . I then realized what game you were playing . Very good.

visionary · Dec 17, 2011

Nooo.. this is no game.. I am not following you.. what doesn't exist?

LittleLambofJesus · Dec 17, 2011

Originally Posted by New_Wineskin You highlighted too little of one part ...
I suppose that you cannot understand folks do what you claim that they do because they don't do it .

In other words , when something does not exist , there is no reason why you would understand its existance .

visionary said:
What does not exist?

Can ya give us a hint?

NKJV) Romans 4:17 (as it is written, "I have made you a father of many nations") in the presence of Him whom he believed -- God, who gives life to the dead and calls those things which do not exist as though they did;

New_Wineskin · Dec 17, 2011

visionary said:
Nooo.. this is no game.. I am not following you.. what doesn't exist?

LOL Yep . Who's on first ?

visionary · Dec 17, 2011

Do you even know what you are talking about? IS that why you can not answer my question?

New_Wineskin · Dec 17, 2011

visionary said:
Do you even know what you are talking about? IS that why you can not answer my question?

Saying that I am stupid enough to fall for your game won't work .

Do you know anything about logic ? Anything ? You are implying that you don't .

"I don't understand *A* " .

"Well , if *A* doesn't exist , how will you be able to understand it ?"

"Understand what ?"

I spelled it out for you . I now told you what *it* was - *thrice* . All you need is the OP to know what *A* ( ie *it* ) is . Since the OP says that you wrote it , your not understanding is not understandable .
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Prof Frogster may have the patience to say the same thing over and over again . I don't .
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Frogster ... could you , please humor visionary's question implying they don't understand what I wrote ( several time ) ? Please , would you tell them what *it* is ? I know that the fourth time from me will lead to yet another question of what is *it* .

visionary · Dec 17, 2011

New_Wineskin said:
If they operate as a "UNIT" , then the Lord was unable to operate until all of the Scriptures were written . Of course , that was well after Jesus died and was risen .

I suppose that you cannot understand there are folks who do what you claim that they do because they don't do it .

Make sure it is this part that needs to be clarified... what is "it" that they claim that "they do because they don't do it."??

LittleLambofJesus · Dec 17, 2011

Originally Posted by visionary Nooo.. this is no game.. I am not following you.. what doesn't exist?

New_Wineskin said:
LOL Yep . Who's on first ?

What is on 2nd

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