Yes! MORE police brutality! Only this time against unarmed peaceful students!

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Wow terrible. They first start hitting the woman in the stomach and you can see it surprises her. She may have said something rude but no one was making any movement toward the cops. It did seem they got too extreme.
 
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I fail to see the problem. While the first amendment guarantees the right to peaceably assemble, it says nothing of the right to peaceably assemble and not get a shillelagh to the pancreas.

Peaceful assembly does not equal a shillelagh to the pancreas. You're missing the part about peace, and violence. :cool:
 
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Wow terrible. They first start hitting the woman in the stomach and you can see it surprises her. She may have said something rude but no one was making any movement toward the cops. It did seem they got too extreme.

Maybe the cops figured she had it coming. Cops probably have lots of stress from their jobs and these baton exercises might be the only time they can let of a little steam without having to do too much paperwork. These days if a cop shoots someone they end up with a weeks worth of paperwork and a review board to deal with.
 
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I watched it several times and I can't see any physical act that provoked the officer. The first one to swing did keep looking behind him - I wonder if there was a superior who instructed them to attack?

Other than defensive gestures, I didn't see any protesters do anything physical through the attack. Is there more to the story here?
 
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If this keeps up people might defend themselves against the cops and there will be bloodshed. Don't the police know they are putting themselves in danger by assaulting people in broad daylight like this? I hope calmer heads will prevail.
 
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Peaceful assembly does not equal a shillelagh to the pancreas. You're missing the part about peace, and violence. :cool:

Well it looks like "peaceable" assembly doesn't apply here anymore:

"The individuals who linked arms and actively resisted, that in itself is an act of violence," UC police Capt. Margo Bennett said. "I understand that many students may not think that, but linking arms in a human chain when ordered to step aside is not a nonviolent protest."

May God have mercy on your souls, protesters.
 
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Well it looks like "peaceable" assembly doesn't apply here anymore:



May God have mercy on your souls, protesters.




Only a moron would say a peaceful human chain is a violent act.

God have mercy on their childrens' brains. The idiot gene never skips a generation.

what on earth about a group of people holding hands is violent?
 
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Occupy Cal protest sees large crowds, violence - The Daily Californian

“We, the UC Berkeley general assembly, hereby establish an encampment on the UC Berkeley campus in order to … help the university become what it always should have been: open and free to all,” according to a proposal adopted by the protesters. “We disagree with the idea that this university and this land are the property of the UC Regents, the vast majority of whom hail from the 1 percent.”

I guess they learned differently.

UCPD responded to the general assembly’s decision to establish the encampment by confiscating tents and maintaining a barricade to prevent protesters from entering Sproul Hall.

After issuing a dispersal order around 3:30 p.m., police used batons against protesters who began moving into their barricade, resulting in seven arrests, as well as injuries to protesters’ arms, heads and stomachs. One protester was sent to the campus Tang Center.

Many protesters called the police’s violent tactics “excessive” and “unneccesarily forceful.”

“Any use of force against an encampment is illegitimate,” Armstrong said. “All the violence the police perpetrated is the responsibility of the administration.”

Harry Le Grande, campus vice chancellor for student affairs, said the police were acting to enforce the campus policy.

“I think we all know that they know that tents were not allowed,” said UCPD Police Chief Mitch Celaya. “The individuals on the front lines made a conscious decision to obstruct the officers from doing what they had to do.”

When protesters failed to remove the encampment, police raided the movement for a second time at about 9:30 p.m., violently clashing with protesters who formed a wall around the remaining tents. As of press time, the day’s events had resulted in 39 arrests. The police issued another dispersal order after the second clash.

So they aren't being violent they just aren't listening to a lawful order....
 
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Violence : Noun: Behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.


So now the police are trying to redefine the word violence? "Not doing what I tell you" is apparently their new fascist meaning for the term. I'm not buying it. If a protestor took a baton away from a cop and started beating him with it that would be violence. If they initiated an attack and started kicking the police officers that would be violence too. Saying "we aren't leaving" and linking arms is NOT violence. People don't get to redefine words like that.

Fascist Cartman wannabe: " violence = not respecting my authoritah!".
 
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Violence : Noun: Behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.


So now the police are trying to redefine the word violence? "Not doing what I tell you" is apparently their new fascist meaning for the term. I'm not buying it. If a protestor took a baton away from a cop and started beating him with it that would be violence. If they initiated an attack and started kicking the police officers that would be violence too. Saying "we aren't leaving" and linking arms is NOT violence. People don't get to redefine words like that.

Fascist Cartman wannabe: " violence = not respecting my authoritah!".


100 Internets for making sense.
 
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these are the facts; kids were standing there. Cops began to beat them with nightsticks.

Its as clear as day.

What gives cops the right to beat people if they weren't moving disobeying an order? If I'm smoking pot, does that mean a cop gets to hit me with a nightstick if i keep smoking the pot even though I heard him say "DROP THE JOINT!" at gun point? I'm disobeying the law, does that mean a cop gets to punch me? Brutalize me? Potentially lethally harm me by causing internal bleeding?
 
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these are the facts; kids were standing there. Cops began to beat them with nightsticks.

Its as clear as day.

What gives cops the right to beat people if they weren't moving disobeying an order? If I'm smoking pot, does that mean a cop gets to hit me with a nightstick if i keep smoking the pot even though I heard him say "DROP THE JOINT!" at gun point? I'm disobeying the law, does that mean a cop gets to punch me? Brutalize me? Potentially lethally harm me by causing internal bleeding?
Give me a break...
 
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Well this is what we get for letting the bullies from highschool continue to be bullies. Taking mostly from the bottom rung in school and giving them limitless power.

Am I biased? Oh you betcha. I do not trust cops, I do not think I ever will. Having seen some nasty things and then all these videos and then them going ape when someone video tapes them. I look at them the way I looked at the fingermen in that one movie where everyone wheres the mask. With fear. I am afraid of them because it doesn't take much to set them off these days. If you don't fall lockstep with everything they say, they twist their rules around and use them to punish you.
 
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