"God" is not a reasonable response to any question requiring evidence

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Well, for AVET and most other creationists here, the bible is pretty much their god.
You're entitled to your opinion -- just don't call our belief in our literature 'worshipping god' and your belief in your literature 'science' and expect us to agree.
 
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Right now it is you that is in error. First of all they have excavated the whole city that the Hebrews lived in Egypt. How could you have missed that? That pretty well destroys your credibility. Perhaps you do not know what your talking about. That is doing all I can to give you the benefit of the doubt when in reality your most likely aware that you are bearing false witness for whatever your twisted purpose is. I suppose in your defense no one expects a clown to tell the truth, so perhaps you are just trying to live up to your persona. But if that is the case you have failed because there is nothing funny about people who bear false witness. I makes me want to cry not laugh.
Stay on topic and take a deep breath. Moses. Prince of Egypt. Not one mention of him on a pillar or tablet. Nothing. #1 that's what I said. But since you brought up the Hebrews being slaves... you dig your own grave.

First, and I know the Bible doesn't claim this but, the pyramids were not built by slaves. They were built by well-paid workers. Egyptian workers. The first of their graves was discovered in 1990. They were well-fed and well cared for. They did not need slaves to build the pyramids. So this popular misconception can be ruled out.

The age of the pyramids is well established. The bulk of the Giza Necropolis, consisting of the Great Pyramid of Cheops and the Sphinx, are among Egypt's oldest large pyramids and were completed around 2540 BCE. Most of Egypt's large pyramids were built over a 900 year period from about 2650 BCE to about 1750 BCE.

It was 2,000 years later that the first record of Jews in Egypt appears. And they weren't Israelites. Rather they were Persians. (see that there, it's called a "link", you use it to show information. You should try it some time.) They were soldiers fighting alongside Pharoah's soldiers. And they likely owned Egyptian slaves.

So your information about "the whole city that the Hebrews lived in Egypt" is another creationist lie.

No Moses was ever recorded by Egyptians, who were meticulous record keepers. No Hebrew slaves were ever recorded by the Egyptians, who again, were meticulous record keepers. So meticulous in fact that we know they slaughtered 21 cattle and 23 sheep every day to feed the workers who built the pyramids. And so there was no exodus.

You wanna try me again?
 
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You're entitled to your opinion -- just don't call our belief in our literature 'worshipping god' and your belief in your literature 'science' and expect us to agree.
You just don't get the concept of "evidence" do ya?
 
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You're entitled to your opinion -- just don't call our belief in our literature 'worshipping god' and your belief in your literature 'science' and expect us to agree.

When did you first start thinking that the bible had feelings, AV?
 
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No Moses was ever recorded by Egyptians, who were meticulous record keepers.
Would that really matter? if you turn your back on the Bible, I'm sure you would turn your back on Egypt's records.
No Moses was ever recorded by Egyptians, who were meticulous record keepers.
Big deal -- Egypt recorded being inhabited by deities, and you deny that.

Do you Internet scientists really think we care what you consider valid?
 
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China knows about China, we have to go by what they say. Archaeology is a fairly recent discovery there so the field is wide open for discovery. They are very advanced in geology though. Of course there is billions and billions of dollars to be made from geology. Where archaeology cost the government money. So of course it is easy to see where they would be quicker to pay for a geology student then a archaeology student.
China has four great ancient capitals. The oldest of which is Xi'an. It was founded in the 11th century BCE. That's 13,000 years ago. But it didn't become a city immediately and just because the west didn't hear about it doesn't make it any less of a city.

But you just pretend to understand what's going on in the world. It makes you sound so grown up.
 
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Science at its best, eh?

I'm glad they don't scratch themselves to death over our medicine like that.

Oh, wait... nevermind.
Nothing wrong with finding a city underwater and not immediately jumping to conclusions about what it is.
 
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Nothing wrong with finding a city underwater and not immediately jumping to conclusions about what it is.
You were asked what the oldest city in the world is -- if you don't know, just say so; don't bore us to death telling us why.
 
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You were asked what the oldest city in the world is -- if you don't know, just say so; don't bore us to death telling us why.

'me' not 'us'. Don't assume your own feelings are shared by everyone else. In fact, after all this time on the forum you should have grasped that almost no one shares your feelings about anything.
 
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How do you determine if it is a city or how old it is given the fact that you reject evidence as a valid concept?
I couldn't care less what the oldest city in the world is.

If you guys, who do care, don't know; then how am I, who don't care, going to know?

I would have to take it on faith, wouldn't I?
 
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'me' not 'us'. Don't assume your own feelings are shared by everyone else. In fact, after all this time on the forum you should have grasped that almost no one shares your feelings about anything.
Don't kid yourself, newbie. I've been here 16x longer than you have.

And I noticed you said everyone else, instead of anyone else; a cute way of validating your own point.
 
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Don't kid yourself, newbie. I've been here 16x longer than you have.
And you have learnt nothing in that time.

And I noticed you said everyone else, instead of anyone else; a cute way of validating your own point.

OK, anyone else then. After all this time on the forum you ought to have realised that it is not just arrogant but foolhardy to assume you can predict how anyone else might feel about about posts on this forum. You are not a spokesman. Restrict your emotional responses to other's posts to yourself.
 
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And you have learnt nothing in that time.
Really, newbie?

There's no thread here that someone once started asking us what we have learned since coming here; and I didn't post in it?

And for the record, the ones who need to 'learn nothing' are you guys; not I.

You can start with what is called creatio ex nihilo -- creation out of nothing.

And until you learn nothing as it applies to creationism, you'll not understand much of anything.
OK, anyone else then.
WOW -- I gave you a way out of your own mistake by agreeing with you; and what do you do? you change the wording!

Solid aurum.
After all this time on the forum you ought to have realised that it is not just arrogant but foolhardy to assume you can predict how anyone else might feel about about posts on this forum.
You want to compare your Friend's List to mine, newbie? or compare your pats on the back in PMs to mine? or would you like to compare the words of encouragement you get from your buddies to the words of encouragement I get from mine?

You're not 1/16 what I am here -- so don't act like you know twice more than I do and expect me to feel more ignorant.
You are not a spokesman.
Then why do I usually have the most posts in most threads in C&E (until just recently), with some threads where I have twice as much as the 2nd poster does -- newbie?
Restrict your emotional responses to other's posts to yourself.
No, thanks.

I think I'll just sit back now and enjoy your contemporaries telling me how narcissistic & arrogant I'm being.

If it puts people like you in your place -- it's well worth it.
 
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And for the record, the ones who need to 'learn nothing' are you guys; not I.

You can start with what is called creatio ex nihilo -- creation out of nothing.
What shall we learn about it AV? That there is nothing we can do to show it happened?
You want to compare your Friend's List to mine, newbie? or compare your pats on the back in PMs to mine? or would you like to compare the words of encouragement you get from your buddies to the words of encouragement I get from mine?

You're not 1/16 what I am here -- so don't act like you know twice more than I do and expect me to feel more ignorant.
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I think I'll just sit back now and enjoy your contemporaries telling me how narcissistic & arrogant I'm being.

If it puts people like you in your place -- it's well worth it.
But it doesn't AV, it just reminds everybody know what an A-hole you are and how little "Christian" there is in you.
 
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Well, for AVET and most other creationists here, the bible is pretty much their god.


I think it is more analogous to people who see the US Constitution and its relationship to the love of America as it has been since 1776.

Those people see America not so much as a country or land mass, but as an Ideal with the spirit of freedom, liberty, and a paradigm that creates a social environment that is conducive to the experience of happiness.
 
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Really, newbie?

There's no thread here that someone once started asking us what we have learned since coming here; and I didn't post in it?

And for the record, the ones who need to 'learn nothing' are you guys; not I.

You can start with what is called creatio ex nihilo -- creation out of nothing.

And until you learn nothing as it applies to creationism, you'll not understand much of anything.

WOW -- I gave you a way out of your own mistake by agreeing with you; and what do you do? you change the wording!

Solid aurum.

You want to compare your Friend's List to mine, newbie? or compare your pats on the back in PMs to mine? or would you like to compare the words of encouragement you get from your buddies to the words of encouragement I get from mine?

You're not 1/16 what I am here -- so don't act like you know twice more than I do and expect me to feel more ignorant.

Then why do I usually have the most posts in most threads in C&E (until just recently), with some threads where I have twice as much as the 2nd poster does -- newbie?

No, thanks.

I think I'll just sit back now and enjoy your contemporaries telling me how narcissistic & arrogant I'm being.

If it puts people like you in your place -- it's well worth it.

Change of topic, AV - how's that "Great Commission" going?
 
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