Poll: It's a lead for Obama in PA

CNN this story seems to say:
1 state in 50 has overall support for Obama.

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The CNN article states that Obama is holding a lead in Pennsylvania and makes no mention of any other state. It seems that it is you who who is saying that Obama has support in 1 state in 50.

I think a lot of people want someone new. Obama hasn't lived up to many of what he said he was going to do. A lot of that is he's been playing too nice with Repubs. Next to impossible to get any of your agenda through when your opposition's number one priority is politically defeating you, rather than governing.

However, given the alternative, Obama isn't looking so bad. A lot of people won't be voting for Obama when they cast their vote, but voting against the GOP nomination.

The best he does against anyone is 40% given the built in advantages a sitting President has against a largely unknown field of republicans that is not something to crow about. In the same poll 52% say they want a change in the White
House. Despite the cheery headlines this poll is not a good sign for the POTUS. Presidents that are likely to win reelection do not have this many people in a poll that are undecided about who to vote for. In addition this is a poll of adults and not likely voters. These polls usually favor democrats over republicans more than polls of likely voters.

Billnew said:

A strong democratic state supports Obama? That is usually a given.

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Calling PA a strong democratic state is false. One of our two senators is Republican. Most of our representatives are. As is our Governor and our state legislature. PA is a swing state that has voted Democratic is the past few elections.

blueapplepaste said:

I think a lot of people want someone new. Obama hasn't lived up to many of what he said he was going to do. A lot of that is he's been playing too nice with Repubs. Next to impossible to get any of your agenda through when your opposition's number one priority is politically defeating you, rather than governing.

However, given the alternative, Obama isn't looking so bad. A lot of people won't be voting for Obama when they cast their vote, but voting against the GOP nomination.

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Now you all will feel the pain I felt voting for Harry Reid over Sharron Angle...

The election is a year away. That's an eternity in political circles---anything could happen between now and then.

One thing is for sure, however: Obama won't be getting re-elected with my vote.

kermit said:

Calling PA a strong democratic state is false. One of our two senators is Republican. Most of our representatives are. As is our Governor and our state legislature. PA is a swing state that has voted Democratic is the past few elections.

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It is also false to call the results of this poll "support" for Obama by the state as 52% do not support Obama and a paltry 40% at best do. So poor Billinew was incorrect on both counts I'm afraid. The words strong and support were unfortunate. to make his post more correct it should have stated- majority of Keystone State does not support Obama. Perhaps the CNN article should have had that headline too.

This is the hope and change people voted for???...wow...talk about extremely low expectations.

grasping the after wind said:

The best he does against anyone is 40% given the built in advantages a sitting President has against a largely unknown field of republicans that is not something to crow about. In the same poll 52% say they want a change in the White
House. Despite the cheery headlines this poll is not a good sign for the POTUS. Presidents that are likely to win reelection do not have this many people in a poll that are undecided about who to vote for. In addition this is a poll of adults and not likely voters. These polls usually favor democrats over republicans more than polls of likely voters.

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It's actually very common for a sitting president to do poorly against a generic opposition party candidate. I think that now as Reps are starting to selected frontrunners these polls will increasigly favor Obama.

kermit said:

It's actually very common for a sitting president to do poorly against a generic opposition party candidate. I think that now as Reps are starting to selected frontrunners these polls will increasigly favor Obama.

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The future is yet to unfold but there is more dissatisfaction with the status quo now than I have witnessed at any time in my adult life. That would not seem to bode well for the chief champion of the status quo no matter who opposes him.

kermit said:

Calling PA a strong democratic state is false. One of our two senators is Republican. Most of our representatives are. As is our Governor and our state legislature. PA is a swing state that has voted Democratic is the past few elections.

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Yep. As the saying goes, "Pennsylvania is Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, with Alabama in between".

It is a swing state with a lot of electoral votes, that's why the idea that Obama has a relatively favorable rating when compared to a generic republican candidate is important.

trunks2k said:

Yep. As the saying goes, "Pennsylvania is Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, with Alabama in between".

It is a swing state with a lot of electoral votes, that's why the idea that Obama has a relatively favorable rating when compared to a generic republican candidate is important.

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But since he doesn't I guess it isn't important then? 52% want a change in White House that is not a favorable rating.

I am more surprised that Obama even scored that high. Given how poor the economy has been doing over the past few years and how Obama has been alienating his base trying to curry favor with people that will never vote for him, the simple fact that he is in the running shows how poor the current GOP candidates are.

grasping the after wind said:

But since he doesn't I guess it isn't important then? 52% want a change in White House that is not a favorable rating.

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But he does. He's leading all the republicans when polled as a race between him and the given republican. Sure, people may want someone different in the white house (heck, even I sorta feel that way), but so far it seems like people in PA want one of the potential republican candidates even less than Obama. And that's all that really matters.

Part of Obama's issue is that he let down a large portion of the base. I know a lot of pretty liberal people who are disappointed in him, myself included (he needs a darn backbone), and would like someone else in the office. However, those same liberals aren't going to vote Republican. It's going to come down to the lesser of two evils. As of right now, it seems that Obama is the lesser evil to people.

Harpuia said:

Now you all will feel the pain I felt voting for Harry Reid over Sharron Angle...

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Perfect example how the GOP blew a golden opportunity by nominating a nutter like Angle. Obama should lose, the only person who has a chance is Romney. Huntsman would blow him away in a landslide, unfortunately the GOP is so radicalized that Huntsman is labeled a RINO who is a democratic operative. Cain won't stand a chance in the general if somehow he can pull off the nomination.