Has Herman Cain ruined his chances at become POTUS.......

Fireinfolding · Nov 2, 2011

Yarddog said:
He did some good things and bad things. He took me from middle class to poverty level. (Not sure if that is good or bad)

Yeah, I liked some Republicans and may have voted for McCain until he sold out to the far right. He wanted to be President so bad and after the way the far right did him, you would think that he would reject their style.

Christians don't have a clear choice. It's "pick your poison".

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Bro you seem much more asserive and passionate about politics then... (I'd hate to even say it)

But we just differ bro, and just as much as arguments over the men in robes is of utter boredom to me, likewise the same of men in politics.

I come on here, just to say a man isnt perfect, and not to expect so much. Someone else could most likely say the opposite, that he was poor but become middle class through Reagans presidency... Just depends on who your talking to.

God maketh rich and maketh poor too, if only we could vote on that one too eh?

Be well bro, honestly, politics is just boring to me. Whether its glorying in men of the church or of the world of politics it just doesnt do much for me. Both seem to become the cause of much infighting and difference, not much fruit come of either (imo). Any one of us might see more good in one over the other, but they are just men.

Have the last word bro, I just cant get wrapped up in this kind of back and forth, as you know, its not my cup of tea.

Choosing my poison

((hugs))) God bless you

Yarddog · Nov 2, 2011

Fireinfolding said:
I come on here, just to say a man isnt perfect, and not to expect so much. Someone else could most likely say the opposite, that he was poor but become middle class through Reagans presidency... Just depends on who your talking to.

I've never talked to anyone who has said that Reagan was responsible for taking them from poverty to middle class. None of his policies dealt with doing that.

I say that he took me from middle class to the poverty level because with me working for the Railroad, he was responsible for assigning the arbitrator for our contracts. During his terms as President, the arbitrator cut into our earnings so that we fell into the poverty level. At least in my work class. Most remained in the middle class but all lost ground.

Fireinfolding said:
God maketh rich and maketh poor too, if only we could vote on that one too eh?

A poor kid doesn't know that he is poor until someone tells him. :hug:

I was raised poor so being poor didn't bother me. (I live with what I have and am happy with I've got.

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See ya over in GT

God Bless

Verticordious · Nov 2, 2011

Yarddog said:
I'm sure that you would say the same to the conservative lynch mob who did these things to Obama. As they say, people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones and both liberals and conservatives are pretty transparent.

Sure, there are probably the occasional conservative run smear campaigns, but the vast majority of it comes from the left. Arguing that two wrongs make a right? How very liberal of you.

Fireinfolding · Nov 2, 2011

Yarddog said:
See ya over in GT
God Bless

Man, Im so trying to break the habit of that place bro ^_^

Now, If I can just contain myself (and succeed) I will never see you (there) again LOL

If not (and I fail) I will catch you later (there) all the while loathing myself ^_^

God bless you!

Almighty's humble servant · Nov 2, 2011

It appears as if my assumption was likely correct about the Perry camp tipping the story to politico. Of course politco will never say such, but it seems Perry is already eating it up.....and while speaking in NH the other night, seems he was likely drinking a bit too much as well.
The Cain campaign is blaming the Perry campaign for the leak, and Gingrich is ready to pounce Perry, even to the extent of making him a pariah in the conservative party.

Well, looks like the evangelical vote is going to Gingrich now. :idea:

Oh dear, there goes the planet. :doh:

Almighty's humble servant · Nov 3, 2011

Third Worker Says She Was Harassed By Cain | National Memo | Breaking News, Smart Politics

From what I've read "about", but not "from" this source, it's fair to say it is a left leaning periodical. Whether it is or it isn't does not dispel the facts.

In one paragraph, a former "MALE", Cain coworker, currently working on behalf of the Perry campaign, claimed it was common knowledge that Herman liked the ladies.

Seems we have a republican Bill Clinton looking to get his groove on in the White House. :doh:

Satt · Nov 3, 2011

I am voting for Ron Paul...so this silly smearing back and forth doesn't concern me.

Almighty's humble servant · Nov 3, 2011

On a side note.....seems fellow evangelical Rick Perry ain't the obvious choice for the moral conservative either. :doh:

Rick Perry's drunken speech (3 minute edit) - YouTube

David After Dentist - YouTube

John Stewart beat me to it

Almighty's humble servant · Nov 3, 2011

Satt said:
I am voting for Ron Paul...so this silly smearing back and forth doesn't concern me.

I've always liked Ron Paul.....he's against war, against big govt, against wasteful spending, and against the police state.

That said, he stands NO chance of winning the republican nomination. :doh:

abysmul · Nov 3, 2011

Almighty's humble servant said:
I've always liked Ron Paul.....he's against war, against big govt, against wasteful spending, and against the police state.

That said, he stands NO chance of winning the republican nomination.

I like Dr. Paul also, I think if he could get his message out that people from both parties would find they agree with a lot of what he says. I think the USA is at a point that it needs a radical change in leadership, and neither party is offering that to be honest. I don't think Ron Paul walks on water, but I think he'd do the country well.

Yarddog · Nov 3, 2011

Satt said:
I am voting for Ron Paul...so this silly smearing back and forth doesn't concern me.

He is probably the most honest politician in Washington. You may not like what he says but he isn't going to lie to you.

revelations12_12 · Nov 3, 2011

Yarddog said:
He is probably the most honest politician in Washington. You may not like what he says but he isn't going to lie to you.

I think Ron Paul cutting all our social programs would be the second biggest mistake ever made for us. However the first was Bush's war on Iraq and Afghanistan, at least we could finaly correct that like Oboma promised to do but failed...

I am tired of the war mongering republicans and RP has a chance to correct their mistakes.

Yarddog · Nov 3, 2011

revelations12_12 said:
I think Ron Paul cutting all our social programs would be the second biggest mistake ever made for us.

I didn't say that I was for Ron Paul but I do respect his honesty.

revelations12_12 said:
However the first was Bush's war on Iraq and Afghanistan, at least we could finaly correct that like Oboma promised to do but failed...

I don't think that Afghanistan was a mistake but I do on Iraq. I also don't think that we would have been in Afghanistan as long "if" all our resources were not focused on Iraq for all of those years.

Obama has not "failed". He is getting us out of Iraq, for the most part this year and early withdraw from Afghanistan may have left them so vulnerable that the Taliban would have been back in control in 2 or 3 years, giving Al Qaeda free reign to train. If so, all that we had done in the past would have been for nothing.

revelations12_12 said:
I am tired of the war mongering republicans and RP has a chance to correct their mistakes.

Well, he has all most no chance in getting the nomination from the GOP.

Yarddog · Nov 3, 2011

Verticordious said:
Sure, there are probably the occasional conservative run smear campaigns, but the vast majority of it comes from the left. Arguing that two wrongs make a right? How very liberal of you.

Give us an example of the left's smear campaign. Not one made up by the right, but an actual smear campaign.

The right is harder on their own than the left is on any of them.

PS I just heard that Cain is blaming the Perry camp for the bringing up the allegations and he is saying that race may be the cause. Another woman has also surfaced.

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/national/herman-cain-blames-media%2C-rick-perry-for-furor l

Satt · Nov 3, 2011

Yarddog said:
Well, he has all most no chance in getting the nomination from the GOP.

GRRRRRRR!!! I hate when people say that like the race has been predetermined. I am hoping for a huge surprise is Iowa.

Yarddog · Nov 3, 2011

Satt said:
GRRRRRRR!!! I hate when people say that like the race has been predetermined. I am hoping for a huge surprise is Iowa.

Well, as mad as you may be, you must also admit that the GOP has been shunning Paul. He finished 2nd in the Caucus but no right wing commentators would acknowledge him as being a leader in the race.

Almighty's humble servant · Nov 3, 2011

abysmul said:
I like Dr. Paul also, I think if he could get his message out that people from both parties would find they agree with a lot of what he says. I think the USA is at a point that it needs a radical change in leadership, and neither party is offering that to be honest. I don't think Ron Paul walks on water, but I think he'd do the country well.

He hasn't done enough to quell the story of his alleged racist rants in his articles published in the late 80s, early 90s to earn a vote from any A/A. Not that he really needs their votes, but their confidence in his neutrality would certainly stave off the fear of a RP administration. Most politically educated A/A's I know have claimed they literally fear him because he hasn't squashed those articles and called out the authors writing in his pen.

On an aside, he really needs to slow down his roll irt the flat tax. Such a tax could not be instituted under current conditions without disastrous effects on the working poor or monumental deficits that would make Bush and Obamas look like a trickle. I mean if he put that idea to bed, literally called our troops home, leaving the CIA and a few dozen predators/blackhawks behind to maintain security, and ended the war on drugs, yes, we could save around a trillion or 2/yr, and eventually get by on the flat tax without a critical hit to our already abysmal, but still breathing economy.

That said, there are gains to be made if he would simply change his immediate goals, run with another moderate libertarian/conservative, who could potentially continue his policies after exiting an 8 yr period of real and positive change.

Almighty's humble servant · Nov 3, 2011

Yarddog said:
I didn't say that I was for Ron Paul but I do respect his honesty.

I don't think that Afghanistan was a mistake but I do on Iraq. I also don't think that we would have been in Afghanistan as long "if" all our resources were not focused on Iraq for all of those years.

Obama has not "failed". He is getting us out of Iraq, for the most part this year and early withdraw from Afghanistan may have left them so vulnerable that the Taliban would have been back in control in 2 or 3 years, giving Al Qaeda free reign to train. If so, all that we had done in the past would have been for nothing.

Well, he has all most no chance in getting the nomination from the GOP.

W/O turning this into a RP thread, we could leave Afganistan to the CIA with a force of a few hundred and still maintain security in the region. Dr Pauls ideas irt that are fairly consistent and well defined. And to me, seemingly effective. :wave:

Verticordious · Nov 3, 2011

The polls coming out show that there has been not statistically significant change in Cain's ratings in the polls. Cain has also been receiving record breaking financial contributions to his campaign the last couple of days. Anything can happen in the primary season, but at this point it looks like the liberal attempt to smear Cain with decade old allegations has been an epic fail. Hopefully this is a good sign that people in American are remembering that people are innocent until proven guilty.

Avelina777 · Nov 3, 2011

I really don't know if he has blown it or not. I do hope for a republican to get in the seat however if we really think about it whoever is in that seat God is going to make or let happen what happens. It is all in Daniel and Revelation. My pastor has a wonderful series on last days and goes into so much regarding these last days. It is amazing how everything going on ties into the Bible. If you want to check it out just google teachingfaith.

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