Vatican calls for new world economic order and central world bank

Hopefully, if it comes about, which I doubt, it would help solve the problems which the super wealthy have caused.

Unlikely such a thing would be created. But the call for a more just market is good and ethical and something Christians ought to support for the good of our neighbor.

-CryptoLutheran

ephesians4:2 said:

Vatican calls for global authority on economy, raps “idolatry of the market” | Reuters

Vatican Calls For New World Economic Order | Fox News

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If it does come to pass, it plays right into the hands of biblical prophecy. We need to keep our eye on this.

everything under the control of one is a recipe for corruption... Ask the Germans who were alive from 1925 to about 1948

WhisperofHope said:

If it does come to pass, it plays right into the hands of biblical prophecy. We need to keep our eye on this.

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I don't recall any place where the Bible predicts an international bank of some sort to help sustain a more just market.

I think what you mean is that according to more modern trends in interpretation of the Bible some have read into the Bible ideas similar to this, though usually much more grandiose in nature.

That's one reason why I gave up on pop-eschatology.

-CryptoLutheran

WhisperofHope said:

If it does come to pass, it plays right into the hands of biblical prophecy. We need to keep our eye on this.

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Couldn't agree more. When I saw the story yesterday, I immediately thought that something has triggered the Catholic Church into support for that which is the system to be used by the AntiChrist. But they know this.

It's as though somebody knows that Biblical revelation is unfolding right before our eyes and they need to give it a little "push".

Something is afoot. Somebody in the Catholic Church KNOWS something or at least THINK that they know.

ViaCrucis said:

I don't recall any place where the Bible predicts an international bank of some sort to help sustain a more just market.

I think what you mean is that according to more modern trends in interpretation of the Bible some have read into the Bible ideas similar to this, though usually much more grandiose in nature.

That's one reason why I gave up on pop-eschatology.

-CryptoLutheran

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You're really on a roll today man.

Zaac said:

Couldn't agree more. When I saw the story yesterday, I immediately thought that something has triggered the Catholic Church into support for that which is the system to be used by the AntiChrist. But they know this.

It's as though somebody knows that Biblical revelation is unfolding right before our eyes and they need to give it a little "push".

Something is afoot. Somebody in the Catholic Church KNOWS something or at least THINK that they know.

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Or perhaps you're reading into things that aren't there.

The typical Dispensationalist/Left Behind stuff isn't a universal doctrine of Christianity. Most of us don't subscribe to it or the DIY prophecy analysis that produces all sorts of novel ideas Christians never believed before.

This isn't prophecy. It's non-biblical fiction.

-CryptoLutheran

WhisperofHope said:

If it does come to pass, it plays right into the hands of biblical prophecy. We need to keep our eye on this.

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Don't be fooled by modern day false prophets who make people scared of every shadow which falls their way. Have faith in Jesus, the lamb of God, not these wolves in sheep's clothing.

ViaCrucis said:

Or perhaps you're reading into things that aren't there.

The typical Dispensationalist/Left Behind stuff isn't a universal doctrine of Christianity. Most of us don't subscribe to it or the DIY prophecy analysis that produces all sorts of novel ideas Christians never believed before.

This isn't prophecy. It's non-biblical fiction.

-CryptoLutheran

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I'm not reading into anything. I'm reading what's there. There will be a one world government when the AntiChrist is in power. So why shouldn't there be speculation about the pieces being put in place right now for such a system?

If you have to have his mark to buy and sell, it kinda makes sense to have a centralized economic system under one person's control.

Zaac said:

I'm not reading into anything. I'm reading what's there. There will be a one world government when the AntiChrist is in power. So why shouldn't there be speculation about the pieces being put in place right now for such a system?

If you have to have his mark to buy and sell, it kinda makes sense to have a centralized economic system under one person's control.

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Well said, Zaac. We are called to watch and pray. Jesus is coming back soon and we must be ready.

Myself I wouldn't want such a thing.

Is He really coming soon? I am not going to say He is not...in fact I think it would be great because I know I am ready. But are you sure THESE events are the ones spoken of in prophecy? Considering the track record of Christians over the last 2000 years (beginning with Paul himself of course) I think it is quite possible we are not close at all.

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Freedom63 said:

Is He really coming soon? I am not going to say He is not...in fact I think it would be great because I know I am ready. But are you sure THESE events are the ones spoken of in prophecy? Considering the track record of Christians over the last 2000 years (beginning with Paul himself of course) I think it is quite possible we are not close at all.

242 Dates for the End of the world!!! Date Setters!

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Don't do the work of the scoffers as mentioned in 2 Peter 3:3-4. Yes, He's coming soon and to not have taken notice of why His return is imminent would be to deny what He says in Scripture.

In 1948 when Israel overnight once again became a nation, the clock started. That didn't happen multiple times in the last 2000 years. It happened ONCE.

Zaac said:

Don't do the work of the scoffers as mentioned in 2 Peter 3:3-4. Yes, He's coming soon and to not have taken notice of why His return is imminent would be to deny what He says in Scripture.

In 1948 when Israel overnight once again became a nation, the clock started. That didn't happen multiple times in the last 2000 years. It happened ONCE.

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Right on - The Bible also says that Israel will never be defeated again and that Israel would stand alone - You don't see many nations shaking hands with Israel - they are pretty much alone. I am praying that the US is working behind the scenes to work with Israel because Israel will have to take out Iran's nukes. The clock is ticking and Israel is the hour glass.

Zaac said:

Don't do the work of the scoffers as mentioned in 2 Peter 3:3-4. Yes, He's coming soon and to not have taken notice of why His return is imminent would be to deny what He says in Scripture.

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Yes, it would.

Zaac said:

In 1948 when Israel overnight once again became a nation, the clock started. That didn't happen multiple times in the last 2000 years. It happened ONCE.

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Indeed. This prophecy was foretold in Ezekiel 36:34: It reads, "I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land." The prophecies concerning Israel in Isaiah, Ekekiel, Matthew, and Revelation all pointed to this day.

Zaac said:

Don't do the work of the scoffers as mentioned in 2 Peter 3:3-4. Yes, He's coming soon and to not have taken notice of why His return is imminent would be to deny what He says in Scripture.

In 1948 when Israel overnight once again became a nation, the clock started. That didn't happen multiple times in the last 2000 years. It happened ONCE.

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Yeah so. It is only because you interpret the budding of the fig tree in light of present events that you believe this started some proverbial clock. I believe the reference could be for when they actually acknowledge Jesus as the Christ. This would represent a true fruit bearing so much more than a simple statehood without Jesus.

Point is...current events always set the context for prophecy interpretation and they always have.

WhisperofHope said:

Yes, it would.



Indeed. This prophecy was foretold in Ezekiel 36:34: It reads, "I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land." The prophecies concerning Israel in Isaiah, Ekekiel, Matthew, and Revelation all pointed to this day.

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Hmm...and the Apostle Paul thought the time was so short that it was better not to even marry in his day. If He can actually get it wrong...I am pretty sure you can too.

I have lived long enough to have observed that decade after decade--even in my grandmother's time--end-time prophesiers have interpreted current events to accord with verses of Revelation as markers for the immanent return of Jesus Christ. Books have been written, published, sold, grown old on shelves, recycled, donated, and reappeared on the shelves of used bookstores which no one buys because the events have long passed into history.

Today it is the nukes of Iran. Yesteryear it was WW I, the 1929 Crash, WW II, Korea and China, the Cuban missile crisis, the Soviet Union, the Cold War, Communism, the VietNam War, 9/11, all of these things which had their time in history. Yet the same end-time hysteria keeps being re-enacted today.

Doesn't it say that Jesus will come like a thief in the night?

"The heavens declare the glory of the Lord" (Psalms 19:2a)