Trying to understand The Book of Job

1). It was a test for Job, God does not tempt, but He does test and He uses Satan, or other means to do so.
2). It's not a dare, it's a test.
3). Satan wanted Job to sin, he wanted Job to curse God.
4). But that is not how God works, we have choices to make, we learn a truth and then God tests us on that truth. God wants us to choose not to sin.
5). To show that God is also in control of satan

God gives us tests, through trials and tribulations to grow our faith in Him, to mature so we can become like Jesus. We don't just become like Jesus without these things. We are being refined and molded.

People might disagree with this, but I think Job was self-righteous, and yes, I know that it says he was blameless before God, on the first test. However, Job was humbled in both tests, he was a holier man than he was before the tests. God always uses all for good to those who love him.

Job shouldn't be read primarily as an historical narrative (since most likely it's not history to begin with), but as a dense philosophical inquiry concerning theodicy (the problem of evil or "Why does God let bad things happen to good people?") in the form of epic prose.

Its narrative function is to give form to the subject matter that the text is aiming at, dealing with the problems of evil and suffering and why God permits these things, even with good and righteous people.

-CryptoLutheran

Here the Lord expresses that Satan has a desire to have Simon as well

Luke 22:31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:

Tribulation works patience, it speaks of the patience of Job but also the patience of the saints

Aces High said:

The problem of evil/suffering has not exactly been vindicated world-over by people reading The Book of Job and it would be a hazy attempt at best to do so as it's a scriptural argument and not a philosophical one which does not suffice for non-believers.

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I don't know if the issue it addresses is ultimately answered, nor do I think it's supposed to convince non-believers.

It does, however, invite us into wrestling with the problems and issues ourselves, listen to the voices of Job, Job's friends, and finally God. In many ways Job's answer to suffering isn't really an answer at all.

As Christian people of faith, we can allow Scripture to challenge us like this.

-CryptoLutheran

Aces High said:

Hi, I'd like some help trying to understand The Book of Job and some apparent contradictions that appear (in my mind), the Old Testament generally is difficult to read so I'd like some advice and insight from people who have a good grasp of it.

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I find it hard to understand how God is just having a casual chat with Satan, almost like "where have you been son?"

1) If God is omniscient, why would he need to test Job's faithfulness?
2) Why is he taking on a dare from Satan? Does he really need to prove anything to Satan?
3) This discourse Satan has with God, and the one he has with God later in afflicting Job with sores (Job 2:3-6) seems awfully a lot to me like Satan has deceived God, almost like a friend with a dare saying "oh go on, you know you want to do it", and thus getting him to do what he wants. After all Satan would have had pleasure in tormenting Job would he not?
4) Satan knows God is omniscient presumably, and that he will not lie. All God would have to do is say, if I test Job he would stand fast to his faith, there is no reason for me to prove it to you, my word is enough, be gone.
5) Why does God say: "Behold, he is in your power; only spare his life" (Job 2:6) - does anyone dare trust Satan with anything? Furthermore if he's omniscient he would know whether Satan would kill him or not, why even mention it?

Please make a numbered point if you're answering any of my points specifically, so it's easy to read. I posted this elsewhere on the forum to get a different viewpoint as well.

Thanks.

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Job is probably the oldest book of the Bible. As such it deals with the perennial question of how does a good God allow sin and pain.

The 'conversation' between God and Satan must be viewed as imaginative literary device used to set the scene.

The book really is a litany of accusations and counter accusations as Job wrestles with his pain and loss - as must we all do. Job's constant question is, 'Why do bad things happen to good people'?

The outcome is that there is no logic upon which Job can rely and in the end acknowledges that God is supreme and despite his impoverished condition will worship God anyway.

Aces High said:

Why is he taking on a dare from Satan?

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Shows the same here

Kirjath-sepher said:

Luke 22:31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:

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It appears in both the above, there was an expressed desire of Satan, one to God of Job, and one of Peter, Jesus expresses the desire of Satan to have him to sift him.

Jake255 said:

1). It was a test for Job,God does not tempt, but He does test and He uses Satan...

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It appears so, that example found in Jesus being led into this very thing


Mat 4:1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

Jake255 said:

God gives us tests, through trials and tribulations to grow our faith in Him...

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Trial of ones faith here...


1Peter 1:6-7 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:


Which is interesting its worded this way here...


Job 1:16 While he [was] yet speaking, there came also another, and said, The fire of God is fallen from heaven, and hath burned up the sheep, and the servants, and consumed them; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee.


And likewise and example is shown in Job


James 5:11 Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.


The enduring is of temptation, being tried as it shows here...



James 1:12 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.


Our faith is tried through a manifold of temptations (and God is not the tempter) however still...




it be tried with fire,


Expressed this way...


The fire of God is fallen from heaven


Jesus said... (even as shown in Job)


Satan hath desired to have you


He was also led into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil, Jesus prayed for Peter that his faith fail not.

So Satan desired to have Job too and the LORD answered him

Job 1:12 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.

However (between each instance) I noticed there are restrictions placed upon Satan, he given limitations, which is interesting because it speaks of God not giving us more then we are able to bear too....

1Cr 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

Heres two I was looking at, both appear to speak the same

Job 2:3 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause.


Job 9:17 For he breaketh me with a tempest, and multiplieth my wounds without cause.

With the exception of the LORD saying Job was a perfect and upright man, whereas Job wouldnt say it (of himself)

Job 9:20 If I justify myself, mine own mouth shall condemn me: if I say, I am perfect, it shall also prove me perverse.

Job 2:3 ....Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?

Same thing I would think...

Prov 27:2 Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips.

Seems to show the same knowledge was in Paul when it come to speaking of oneself that way. In the same breath he could say...

Phil 3:12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.

Phil 3:15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

Aces High said:

Hi, I'd like some help trying to understand The Book of Job and some apparent contradictions that appear (in my mind), the Old Testament generally is difficult to read so I'd like some advice and insight from people who have a good grasp of it.

I find it hard to understand how God is just having a casual chat with Satan, almost like "where have you been son?"

1) If God is omniscient, why would he need to test Job's faithfulness?
2) Why is he taking on a dare from Satan? Does he really need to prove anything to Satan?
3) This discourse Satan has with God, and the one he has with God later in afflicting Job with sores (Job 2:3-6) seems awfully a lot to me like Satan has deceived God, almost like a friend with a dare saying "oh go on, you know you want to do it", and thus getting him to do what he wants. After all Satan would have had pleasure in tormenting Job would he not?
4) Satan knows God is omniscient presumably, and that he will not lie. All God would have to do is say, if I test Job he would stand fast to his faith, there is no reason for me to prove it to you, my word is enough, be gone.
5) Why does God say: "Behold, he is in your power; only spare his life" (Job 2:6) - does anyone dare trust Satan with anything? Furthermore if he's omniscient he would know whether Satan would kill him or not, why even mention it?

Please make a numbered point if you're answering any of my points specifically, so it's easy to read. I posted this elsewhere on the forum to get a different viewpoint as well.

Thanks.

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Aces high, try and understand Job this way,

In Job 1:1 it states:There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.

Job 1:2-5:2And there were born unto him seven sons and three daughters.

3His substance also was seven thousand sheep, and three thousand camels, and five hundred yoke of oxen, and five hundred she asses, and a very great household; so that this man was the greatest of all the men of the east.

4And his sons went and feasted in their houses, every one his day; and sent and called for their three sisters to eat and to drink with them.

5And it was so, when the days of their feasting were gone about, that Job sent and sanctified them, and rose up early in the morning, and offered burnt offerings according to the number of them all: for Job said, It may be that my sons have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts. Thus did Job continually.

1)Job is very wealthy,has many sons and daughters and is a God fearing man

Job 1:6:Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

2) satan in that verse means 7854 satan saw-tawn' from 7853; an opponent; especially (with the article prefixed) Satan, the arch-enemy of good:--adversary, Satan, withstand

Job 1:7-10:7And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

8And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?

9Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?

10Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.

3)This creature, whoever and whatever
he is, says that Job fears God and gives
honor to Him because God has blessed
him. God has given him all these things
and protects him.


Job 1:11-12:11But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face. 12And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.


4)As you read on you find that Job lost
his oxen, asses, sheep, servants, camels,
and even his sons and daughters. The
churches say this was done by a great,
angelic, malevolent, evil, wicked being
who tempts and brings evil to all the other
people of the earth.
After Job lost everything we read:

Job 1:22:In all this Job sinned not, nor charged God foolishly.

Job 2:1-3:1Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD. 2And the LORD said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
3And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause.




5)So, even after his calamity, Job was

still faithful to God. Now, God tells Satan:
“See, in spite of everything that happens,
Job still fears Me and eschews evil.”

Job 2:4-8:4And Satan answered the LORD, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life. 5But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face.
6And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life.
7So went Satan forth from the presence of the LORD, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.
8And he took him a potsherd to scrape himself withal; and he sat down among the ashes.


6)Job was so ill at this point that his wife
said:

Job 2:9:Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God, and die.

7)Job's wife gave up. Job had lost everything
that he had. He now was in illness
and pain and possibly in fear of his own
life. At this point almost all fundamentalists
without exception have credited some
wicked, angelic being called “Satan”
(“sawtawn” in the original Chaldean language)
with having done all this to Job.
But, perhaps you missed verse three of
chapter two where God is speaking and
He said of Job: “and still he holdeth fast
his integrity, although thou movedst me
against him, to destroy him without
cause.” Who did the destroying? God said
that HE did it.
After these additional calamities
occurred and, apparently, after days of
conversation with friends who came supposedly
to comfort him but who were of no
great comfort, Job tells his friends:

Job 19:2-5:2How long will ye vex my soul, and break me in pieces with words? 3These ten times have ye reproached me: ye are not ashamed that ye make yourselves strange to me.
4And be it indeed that I have erred, mine error remaineth with myself.
5If indeed ye will magnify yourselves against me, and plead against me my reproach:


8)If you know the Book of Job, you know
that these men had been telling Job that
he must have sinned. They told Job that
something he did was wrong, and that's
why he had suffered all these calamities.
So Job rebuked them:

Job 19:6-13:6Know now that God hath overthrown me, and hath compassed me with his net. 7Behold, I cry out of wrong, but I am not heard: I cry aloud, but there is no judgment.
8He hath fenced up my way that I cannot pass, and he hath set darkness in my paths.
9He hath stripped me of my glory, and taken the crown from my head.
10He hath destroyed me on every side, and I am gone: and mine hope hath he removed like a tree.
11He hath also kindled his wrath against me, and he counteth me unto him as one of his enemies.
12His troops come together, and raise up their way against me, and encamp round about my tabernacle.
13He hath put my brethren far from me, and mine acquaintance are verily estranged from me.


10)Who is Job saying caused all of these
calamities? Job says that God did it. He is
trying to point out to these men that it
wasn't necessarily any sin of his own but,
they should understand that God did it.
Job says:

Job 19:21:Have pity upon me, have pity upon me, O ye my friends; for the hand of God hath touched me.

11)In the last chapter of Job, after God
has spoken to him, Job answers:

Job 42:2-6:2I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from thee. 3Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not.
4Hear, I beseech thee, and I will speak: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me.
5I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.
6Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.


12)Even though Job had rebuked his
friends and told them he had not sinned,
he said: God, I realize what I am, I realize
what You are, You can do all things, therefore,
I repent. Then God speaks to the
other men:

Job 42:7-8:7And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath. 8Therefore take unto you now seven bullocks and seven rams, and go to my servant Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and my servant Job shall pray for you: for him will I accept: lest I deal with you after your folly, in that ye have not spoken of me the thing which is right, like my servant Job.


13)God says that Job spoke right. He then
tells Job's friends to offer a burnt offering
because, as He says in verse eight: “ye
have not spoken of me the thing which is
right, like my servant Job.” These men did
make an offering because God had told
them to, as we see in the next passage:

Job 42:9-13:9So Eliphaz the Temanite and Bildad the Shuhite and Zophar the Naamathite went, and did according as the LORD commanded them: the LORD also accepted Job. 10And the LORD turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: also the LORD gave Job twice as much as he had before.
11Then came there unto him all his brethren, and all his sisters, and all they that had been of his acquaintance before, and did eat bread with him in his house: and they bemoaned him, and comforted him over all the evil that the LORD had brought upon him: every man also gave him a piece of money, and every one an earring of gold.
12So the LORD blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a thousand she asses.
13He had also seven sons and three daughters.


14)Why did God give Job all of these
blessings? They were given in order to
replace that which God Almighty had
taken from Job. The Book of Job is very
specific. The people who in the end came
to comfort Job realized that everything
that had happened to Job had been done
by God Almighty.
I haven't quoted all of Job but I quoted
every place where the word “Satan”
appears in Job. I defy you to use any part
of those references to conclude that
“satan” is some sort of an everliving creature
who has power almost equal to God.
If we take the original meaning of the
word we come up with the word “adversary.”
This adversary could easily have
been nothing more than another son of
God, a man of the Adamic race, who came
before God with the rest of the men and
provoked God to test Job. It was God who
brought the calamities. There is no indication
that the Satan of Job had any supernatural
powers, whatsoever. It was God
who did the things which were beyond
nature.

15)We are going to have to believe what
Isaiah wrote:

Isaiah 45:5-7:5I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: 6That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
7I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.




What is satan but a man,an adversary?
If there was no war in heaven,there is no satan,Revelation 12 speaks of the war in heaven,yet if we take that literally then we have to take the whole chapter literally so what is satan?
The war in heaven is supposed to have happened already that is why there is a satan....but like I said if the war in heaven is literal,well Just read Revelation 12

Aces High said:

Hi, I'd like some help trying to understand The Book of Job and some apparent contradictions that appear (in my mind), the Old Testament generally is difficult to read so I'd like some advice and insight from people who have a good grasp of it.

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Greetings.

Aces High said:

I find it hard to understand how God is just having a casual chat with Satan, almost like "where have you been son?"

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Because they know each other (James 2:19). In reverence towards creator, there is no enmity.

Besides, Satan is God's creation. However, that does not mean that God loves Satan.

God hates Satan.

Psalm 5:6 You destroy those who speak falsehood; The LORD abhors the man of bloodshed and deceit.

Acts 13:10 and said, “You who are full of all deceit and fraud, you son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, will you not cease to make crooked the straight ways of the Lord?

John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

God hates Satan. Anyone who believes in the God of the Bible and says otherwise is against God.

Aces High said:

1) If God is omniscient, why would he need to test Job's faithfulness?

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Because that's what He does and that's what He wants. In fact, the purpose of this test was to humble him. He already knew Job was after His heart.

Aces High said:

2) Why is he taking on a dare from Satan? Does he really need to prove anything to Satan?

3) This discourse Satan has with God, and the one he has with God later in afflicting Job with sores (Job 2:3-6) seems awfully a lot to me like Satan has deceived God, almost like a friend with a dare saying "oh go on, you know you want to do it", and thus getting him to do what he wants. After all Satan would have had pleasure in tormenting Job would he not?

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1) He's not.
2) Of course not.

He even says, "you incited Me against him to ruin him without cause". Besides, God initiated the conversation: The LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered My servant Job? For there is no one like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, fearing God and turning away from evil.”

What's happening here is God is commissioning Satan to test Job. Just look at 1 Kings 22:19-22. Of course, this one is more personal because it's one of His. Hence why it appears that Satan is goading God to do it.

Aces High said:

5) Why does God say: "Behold, he is in your power; only spare his life" (Job 2:6) - does anyone dare trust Satan with anything? Furthermore if he's omniscient he would know whether Satan would kill him or not, why even mention it?

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Because Satan is in a contract with God. He does service to God in turn his demons (fallen angels) are allowed to carry out his will and are occasionally employed in his stead (he is not omnipresent).

Once again, God initiated it. God offered him with the proposition of rebellion because Satan by himself could not rebel. Satan presumably was torn between his loyalty and his desire and he chose to go with his desire. As a result, God established the aforementioned contract. This is not specifically in the Scriptures, but it is implied heavily.

See here.

Also consider John 13:15:

No longer do I call you slaves, for the slave does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I have heard from My Father I have made known to you.

So if a slave does not know, the disciples were not considered servants but friends, what is Satan?

What/who is Satan?

Zechariah 13:7 “Awake, O sword, against My Shepherd,
And against the man, My Associate,”
Declares the LORD of hosts.
“Strike the Shepherd that the sheep may be scattered;
And I will turn My hand against the little ones (Matt. 18:10, 12-14).

Luke 22:53 While I was with you daily in the temple, you did not lay hands on Me; but this hour and the power of darkness are yours.”

Luke 4:13 When the devil had finished every temptation, he left Him until an opportune time.

Mark 14:11 They were glad when they heard this, and promised to give him money. And he began seeking how to betray Him at an opportune time.

The one operating behind the Pharisees (Luke 22:2) and Judas (Luke 22:3, John 13:2) to carry out God's will in conjunction with Jesus, who confirmed his activity (John 13:27).

On the other hand, perhaps Satan was not doing his activity (2 Thess. 2:9) in that instance but God's. His final act will be God's activity (Rev. 21:7).

Either way, he's a servant of God. A servant does not necessarily love his master but he does what he does for multiple reasons but most of all, he is compelled to.

If you say a supernatural creature called satan,did all this to Job,then you are saying God is not sovereign; that he can hand power over to another creature,you are not directly but indirectly building up another God,and God does not share his power!!!!!
There is no God besides God,but if there is a satan,it can be read as adversary or even man i.e a man who did not like Job etcetc
And you all keep forgetting that if there is a supernatural being called satan then that would contradict ,war in heaven

Satan supposedly came from that war,that is why there is a satan but just read all that chapter of Revelation 12,it would all have to be taken literally...


Isaiah 45:5-7:5I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: 6That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
7I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

God is God,there is none else - - satan could Just as easily be a man,and is not directly but indirectly,an idol...

christian1488 said:

If you say a supernatural creature called satan,did all this to Job,then you are saying God is not sovereign; that he can hand power over to another creature,you are not directly but indirectly building up another God,and God does not share his power!!!!!
There is no God besides God,but if there is a satan,it can be read as adversary or even man i.e a man who did not like Job etcetc
And you all keep forgetting that if there is a supernatural being called satan then that would contradict ,war in heaven

Satan supposedly came from that war,that is why there is a satan but just read all that chapter of Revelation 12,it would all have to be taken literally...


Isaiah 45:5-7:5I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: 6That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
7I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

God is God,there is none else - - satan could Just as easily be a man,and is not directly but indirectly,an idol...

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Hebrews 2:14 Therefore, since the children share in flesh and blood, He Himself likewise also partook of the same, that through death He might render powerless him who had the power of death, that is, the devil,

So either God shared/temporarily delegated His power of death to the devil or He never had the power of death.

Jpark said:

Hebrews 2:14 Therefore, since the children share in flesh and blood, He Himself likewise also partook of the same, that through death He might render powerless him who had the power of death, that is, the devil,

So either God shared/temporarily delegated His power of death to the devil or He never had the power of death.

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Christ came to destroy sin.

Hebrews 9:26:For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

1 Corinthians 15:3:For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

1 Peter 2:24:Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

1 John 3:5:And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

Sin was the original cause of death

Romans 6:23:For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 5:12:Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

1 Corinthians 15:56:The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

From this evidence it is obvious that Christ came to destroy sin,and also that the power of death is in sin.It logically follows,therefore,that the devil is a synonym for sin.
The fallacy of the ideal that the devil is a fallen angel is clearly illustrated by the definition of the Apostle in Hebrews 2:14 above.
How could the death of Jesus encompass the destruction of a powerful,superhuman fallen angel?
It would leave him more powerful than ever!
But once it is recognized that the devil relates to sin, and that sin comes from within,it will be acknowledged that the atoning blood of Jesus is a powerful weapon to defeat and destroy it! It defeats the power of sin by providing the means of forgiveness;it conquers death through the promise of a resurrection to life eternal(1 Cor 15:20-26)

I don't think God hates satan.