Troy Davis Denied Clemency

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I pray for him, and pray for justice.

I pray for his soul, and I pray if he is not guilty of the crime that they find the evidence to cast doubt on the conviction before his sentence is carried out.
Praying for justice also means if he is guilty, that the sentence is carried out.

The article I read said:
"Man scheduled for execution even though he claims he is innocent."(paraphrased)

I bet 75% of people in prison claim, or would claim they are innocent if it would reduce their sentence.
 
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Here's another quote from the article:

Davis has captured worldwide attention after his supporters raised concerns that he was a victim of mistaken identity. Several of the witnesses who helped convict Davis at his 1991 trial have backed off their testimony or recanted. Others who did not testify say another man at the scene admitted to the shooting.
 
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The only physical evidence are shell casings which link him to a robbery for which he was convicted. Shell casings? Seven of nine witness recantations is a lot of recanting.
Exactly. This case is a shining example of how the DP does not work. For the sake of argument, assume this guy is innocent. We kill him and the real killer is never brought to justice. That just isn't right.

I'm to the point right now where I'd support the President (I don't care if it were Obama or whoever) putting a stop to it somehow.
 
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I was hoping they would delay it for a review.

But I support thier decision and here is why:

20 yrs of investigating, working the system, having evidence reviewed.
How many courts heard the case of the appeal?
How many courts reviewed the case for clemancy?
How many people reviewed the case for a new trial?

I must assume one of the following:

1.He was guilty and justice is served.
2.He was innoncent and 20 yrs of cover up, conspiracy, and laziness, from the local courts all the way to the supreme court, allowed this man to be murdered.

#2 means hundreds if not thousands of people were complicit (if not active) in the commision of this murder.

I believe #1, and I believe the anti-DP group a massed all the "opinions"
and presented them as fact. They could not win in real court, so they took it to the court of public opinion. No facts have to be supported in Public opinion.
How else can every court ignore the "evidence" and allow this to take place without delay?

Who is more reliable?
Group that is against the DP, looking for anything to prevent the execution.
Group of trained people looking to serve justice?

That said, I am even more convinced by the amount of preasure these people were put under to do the right thing, by the world. I seriously doubt they would pencil whip the review when so many all over the world called for the delay and review.

I would like to see 2 things:
1.The punishment being served alot sooner. So people haven't forgotten the terrible crimes rather then just reading about it. We have terminal people sitting in a cell for twenty or more years waiting to die.

2. Make it manditory that a court open the case within a month of the execution to review the evidence one last time.There can be alot of new information in that time. This would settle these kinds of problems.
a.I would also make it a court outside the local so that a local vendetta does not taint the review.

There are real monsters in the world, and they should face the ultimate punishment, but we should never stop looking for the truth and when the sentence is carried out, it should never be a joyous one. The monsters enjoy the killing, civilized people do not.
 
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I was hoping they would delay it for a review.

But I support thier decision and here is why:

20 yrs of investigating, working the system, having evidence reviewed.
How many courts heard the case of the appeal?
How many courts reviewed the case for clemancy?
How many people reviewed the case for a new trial?

I must assume one of the following:

1.He was guilty and justice is served.
2.He was innoncent and 20 yrs of cover up, conspiracy, and laziness, from the local courts all the way to the supreme court, allowed this man to be murdered.

#2 means hundreds if not thousands of people were complicit (if not active) in the commision of this murder.

I believe #1, and I believe the anti-DP group a massed all the "opinions"
and presented them as fact. They could not win in real court, so they took it to the court of public opinion. No facts have to be supported in Public opinion.
How else can every court ignore the "evidence" and allow this to take place without delay?

Who is more reliable?
Group that is against the DP, looking for anything to prevent the execution.
Group of trained people looking to serve justice?

That said, I am even more convinced by the amount of preasure these people were put under to do the right thing, by the world. I seriously doubt they would pencil whip the review when so many all over the world called for the delay and review.

I would like to see 2 things:
1.The punishment being served alot sooner. So people haven't forgotten the terrible crimes rather then just reading about it. We have terminal people sitting in a cell for twenty or more years waiting to die.

2. Make it manditory that a court open the case within a month of the execution to review the evidence one last time.There can be alot of new information in that time. This would settle these kinds of problems.
a.I would also make it a court outside the local so that a local vendetta does not taint the review.

There are real monsters in the world, and they should face the ultimate punishment, but we should never stop looking for the truth and when the sentence is carried out, it should never be a joyous one. The monsters enjoy the killing, civilized people do not.
I'm a court employee. Option #2 is not all that far fetched at all. The system is designed to protect those that serve within it. The justice system protects cops (a cop was murdered in this case) and if the radio report I heard last night is correct, former LEOs were on the parole board that decided this man's fate.
 
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I think this case kinda highlights why most of the 1st world opposes us for our death penalty policies.

While part of me feels a sense of justice when a really really bad person can no longer hurt anyone else, I wonder how many innocent people we've actually executed or locked up for life.
 
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Wouldn't matter, polygraphs are not admissable in court, so the most it would accomplish is the media and public possibly believing he's telling the truth. He'd still be executed.
I know. And I think it's wrong they are inadmissible. Especially since we have things like voice stress analysis as well.

I think this case kinda highlights why most of the 1st world opposes us for our death penalty policies.

While part of me feels a sense of justice when a really really bad person can no longer hurt anyone else, I wonder how many innocent people we've actually executed or locked up for life.
There are innocence commissions out there (I believe I mentioned the one in NC previously) that are uncovering more cases all the time.

All the time.
 
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A travesty. An utter, utter disgrace. What a waste of life.

An innocent man lost his life for nothing. But it'd worse than that- he wasted twenty years of his life for nothing, waiting to lose it for nothing.

It's a shambles. Cases like this make me incredibly proud to live in a society where the barbarism of the death penalty is confined to the history books.
 
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Sad to hear that this man was put to death! If there was doubt, why didn't they give him the chance? Sad day

so from 1991 to 2011 (20 years) he never had any hearings, Appeals, District Courts Appeals, Supreme Court appeals, opportunities for the White house to step it? none of them ever hear of this?? No, oh that's right he DID have 20 years of second chances.
 
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