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I went to hunt up a thread that might discuss that and found this one.

Why it is on the Unorthodox Theology board is beyond me :confused:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7444768-3/#post54214614
The Missing Passover

We are starting Passover here in Israel. But since the wheels of the Truth cannot stop rolling, I want to bring to your attention the Passover of the year 30 CE. It was supposed to be the last one that Jesus would partake of, and he missed it.
The wheels of truth fell off before they even got started...:doh:

According to John 19:31, that Sabbath was a solemn Sabbath, which is what we call in Hebrew a Shabbaton. That's when a festival falls on the Sabbath. The KJV brings: "For that Sabbath day was a high day."
The day after Passover always is a High Day Sbbath. That has nothing to do with which day of the week it falls on. :doh:
 
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Shabbaton simply means 'high Sabbath'. The high holy days of God are known as or considered Sabbaths.
What better time of the year for YHVH to "spank" the Jews in AD70 than on the feast of the Passolver when Jews from all parts of the land came to celebrate it :idea:

Ezekiel 22:17 Then came the word of Yahweh unto me, saying:
18 Son of man, The house of Israel hath become to me, dross,-- They all are copper and tin and iron and lead in the midst of a furnace, The dross of silver, have they become.
19 Therefore, Thus, saith My Lord Yahweh, Because ye all are become dross, Therefore, behold me! gathering you into the midst of Jerusalem:
20 As they gather silver and copper and iron and lead and tin into the midst of a furnace, to blow upon it the fire to melt it, So will I gather in mine anger and in mine indignation, and will let b. and will melt you;
21 Yea I will gather you together, and blow upon you, with the fire of my wrath,-- And ye shall be melted in the midst thereof:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7588291/#post58458734

The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
*snip*

The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover.
At this season multitudes came up from all the surrounding country, and from distant parts, to keep the festival and the city was at this time crowded with Jewish strangers...........
 
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The wheels of truth fell off before they even got started...:doh:


The day after Passover always is a High Day Sbbath. That has nothing to do with which day of the week it falls on. :doh:

The wheels of truth fell of...funny term, i like it
 
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Yea: somebody needs to fix the edit thingy...
According to what I see on the CF Chat Box, they are working on it :)
They shut down CF for awhile last night and that is why some problems are showing up.
03/09/2011 12:43 <Andrew12 > I too am having difficulty editing.... I posted in the thread. lol

http://www.christianforums.com/t7589532/
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Boy ain't that a fact!



What can I say? there remains a Sabbath Rest, it's not done away, and after Christ returns it will still be observed.

But hebrews 4 says.."today', a present exhortation, so what day?:D:p

7again he appoints a certain day, "Today," saying through David so long afterward, in the words already quoted,

"Today, if you hear his voice,do not harden your hearts."

8For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken of another day later on. 9So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God,
 
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Shabbaton simply means 'high Sabbath'. The high holy days of God are known as or considered Sabbaths.

when the galatian churches tried to add sabbth to their lives, to go to a "higher level" perfection through the flesh, 3;3,. The holy Spirit, through Paul said it was a waste of time in 4;11. Go figure..lol...
 
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What can I say? there remains a Sabbath Rest, it's not done away, and after Christ returns it will still be observed.

why does this verse, clearly show by way of chroNology, that what came later, THE OATH, trumped the previous law, just like Gal 3:19, intil...the law was until...and Hebrews 7:12 says a change in the priesthood, a change IN THE LAW...! Why? tell me why?


7:28For the law appoints men in their weakness as high priests, but the word of the oath, which came later than the law, appoints a Son who has been made perfect forever.
 
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Today - this present age (olam hazah), not the age to come (olam haba).

the law has nothing to do with the gospel, why do you think the writer said by way of the gospel, don't go to law? Don't drift from the GOSPEL...you have NOT come to Sinai in 12 also...


2:1Therefore we must pay much closer attention to what we have heard, lest we drift away from it. 2For since the message declared by angels proved to be reliable, and every transgression or disobedience received a just retribution, 3 how shall we escape if we neglect such a great salvation? It was declared at first by the Lord, and it was attested to us by those who heard,
 
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Sometimes it is difficult to stay on a topic and you will have those that may view it differently than you and I, especially the sabbatarian SDAs and MJs for example.
Onward thru the fog I say! :p

Judaism, and MJism.

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why does this verse, clearly show by way of chroNology, that what came later, THE OATH, trumped the previous law, just like Gal 3:19, intil...the law was until...and Hebrews 7:12 says a change in the priesthood, a change IN THE LAW...! Why? tell me why?


7:28For the law appoints men in their weakness as high priests, but the word of the oath, which came later than the law, appoints a Son who has been made perfect forever.
I have told you more than once but you are not able to uderstand at this time.

You are not subject to God's law, neither indeed can you be.

Enough said.
 
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Today - this present age (olam hazah), not the age to come (olam haba).
That depends on ones view of the "age to come". ;)

Matthew 12:32 And, whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him,--but, whosoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age, or the one one about to be/mellonti <3195> (5723).

2 Timothy 4:1 Thru-witnessing then I, before the GOD and the Lord Jesus Christ of the one-being-about/mellontoV <3195> (5723) to be judging living-ones and dead-ones according as the appearance/manifestation of Him and the Kingdom of Him.

Revelation 1:19 `Write the things that thou hast seen, and the things that are, and the things that are about to come/mellei <3195> (5719) after these things;

http://www.christianforums.com/t7131625-3/#post45848389
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when the galatian churches tried to add sabbth to their lives, to go to a "higher level" perfection through the flesh, 3;3,. The holy Spirit, through Paul said it was a waste of time in 4;11. Go figure..lol...
Neither of which has anything to do with God's Sabbath.
You're the one that needs to go figure. :p
 
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Neither of which has anything to do with God's Sabbath.
You're the one that needs to go figure. :p
Why is the sabbath brought up so much on this Hebrews thread :p
Btw, how many times does the author of Hebrews even mention sabbath?

Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon
Strong's Number G4521 matches the Greek &#963;&#8049;&#946;&#946;&#945;&#964;&#959;&#957; (sabbaton), which occurs 68 times in 62 verses in the Greek concordance

http://www.christianforums.com/t7462687-30/#post54592260
sabbath for Jews and Gentiles
 
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