For the most part, yes. Also I'm having my own personal mini-vacation right now for a few days with my wife and five of the kids in KY and my oldest son having started back to school. My nursing classes don't begin until the 16th.
I have no idea what to do with all this free time.
Ahem.
I'll probably get slammed for this but with the bolded I do agree...
There is like 9 conservative/confessionals on here, 2 liberals, and 1 moderate. . . There are a few that are active here but not a vocal about their views too
Conservatives:
Alexbethmom
Jonathan1971
Darev
Studeclunker
Myself
Seajoy
Zecryphon
Aibrean
Resha Caner **New but appears conservative**
Liberals:
Lux et Lex
Mdseverin
Moderates
Doulos Tou Kuriou
By any and all acounts in terms of people who are vocal about their views at least they are out numbered at least 3 to one.
Being outnumbered by that much does naturally tend to make it difficult to express your views. My other concern is that we, check ourselves in how we are treating them too. Its not good for us to play "gang up on the libs" because we think its fun or because we think its going to change their mind. (it won't, my wife majored in psychology and that type of treatment tends to close anyone's mind to other views.) So we should be careful of that too.
You can slam me for that if you want, you may even question my status as a conservative/confessional. But she is correct that this place can be hard on liberals and to a lesser extent moderates.
I just want to say that when you are outnumbered like this, it is very hard to express your views because no one else is backing you up or adding a similar point of view to add on. I am only one man. I initially came to the Lutheran section hoping to find some others that have a similar beliefs. I was caught off guard because the ELCA is the largest Lutheran church in the US.
However, I had every intention of coming here to learn about other ways of thinking. But when anyone questions your beliefs, and when the odds are against you, it does feel like you are always on the defense. It gets to you and when it boils down to it, I was worrying about issues that have nothing to do with salvation, just church practice.
I also have to laugh that I am classified a liberal. I admit the more I think about it my Christian view is liberal. But in secular life I am pretty conservative. I was Chairman of the College Republicans at my university.
I just want to say that when you are outnumbered like this, it is very hard to express your views because no one else is backing you up or adding a similar point of view to add on. I am only one man. I initially came to the Lutheran section hoping to find some others that have a similar beliefs. I was caught off guard because the ELCA is the largest Lutheran church in the US.
However, I had every intention of coming here to learn about other ways of thinking. But when anyone questions your beliefs, and when the odds are against you, it does feel like you are always on the defense. It gets to you and when it boils down to it, I was worrying about issues that have nothing to do with salvation, just church practice.
I also have to laugh that I am classified a liberal. I admit the more I think about it my Christian view is liberal. But in secular life I am pretty conservative. I was Chairman of the College Republicans at my university.
So then what am I supposed to do? I see people run around on this forum that say they believe in Christ alone, Scripture alone, and Faith alone but then go on to state such as this....
"You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist."
The word of God is nothing, the cross of Christ is nothing, and faith is nothing because the right way, the correct way it doesn't exist.
So you who are torn by your sin despair because there is nothing you can depend on.
The quote, "You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist." is kind of well known. I only used it because the discussion was going in circles. I could have used the saying "let's agree to disagree." That's all I meant by it. Of course I believe certain truths like Christ died on the cross for our sins. But an atheist isn't going to agree with me on that and that is "the way" they choose. No matter how much I argue with them. That's all I meant by it.
So then what am I supposed to do? I see people run around on this forum that say they believe in Christ alone, Scripture alone, and Faith alone but then go on to state such as this....
"You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist."
The word of God is nothing, the cross of Christ is nothing, and faith is nothing because the right way, the correct way it doesn't exist.
So you who are torn by your sin despair because there is nothing you can depend on.
The quote, "You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist." is kind of well known. I only used it because the discussion was going in circles. I could have used the saying "let's agree to disagree." That's all I meant by it. Of course I believe certain truths like Christ died on the cross for our sins. But an atheist isn't going to agree with me on that and that is "the way" they choose. No matter how much I argue with them. That's all I meant by it.
I'll probably get slammed for this but with the bolded I do agree...
There is like 9 conservative/confessionals on here, 2 liberals, and 1 moderate. . . There are a few that are active here but not a vocal about their views too
Conservatives:
Alexbethmom
Jonathan1971
Darev
Studeclunker
Myself
Seajoy
Zecryphon
Aibrean
Resha Caner **New but appears conservative**
Liberals:
Lux et Lex
Mdseverin
Moderates
Doulos Tou Kuriou
By any and all acounts in terms of people who are vocal about their views at least they are out numbered at least 3 to one.
Being outnumbered by that much does naturally tend to make it difficult to express your views. My other concern is that we, check ourselves in how we are treating them too. Its not good for us to play "gang up on the libs" because we think its fun or because we think its going to change their mind. (it won't, my wife majored in psychology and that type of treatment tends to close anyone's mind to other views.) So we should be careful of that too.
You can slam me for that if you want, you may even question my status as a conservative/confessional. But she is correct that this place can be hard on liberals and to a lesser extent moderates.
You forgot me. I agree with your assessment.
I'm all about compromise. I love that demotivational poster!