are moslums threatening the western way of life???

Hey THUNDER,
I will check that thread out.

The thing that makes me really sad is that I have a 5-year-old daughter and she is not going to remember a world prior to September 11...

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It must be harder for Americans?? It is all changing in my country too, I worry for my children. Things are different to when I grew up. I am seeing what I would call, "evil" politicians in my country that have changed our way of life.

It hasn’t been the terrorists that have done it; it has been our own government. Using terrorism to do what they want.

In the last 18 maths the laws have changed hear in Perth Australia because of so called terrorism from bikies and other terrorist threats.

1. We no longer have the right to remain silent (you can be charged for it).

2. You can have your belongings confiscated until you have proved were you got the money to by it. (including houses or simply to much household property)

3. They can now enter your premises without a search warrant.

4 they have started a so-called bikie task force with special powers.

5. You can be held without charges for a length of time (I can’t remember how long).

I don’t want to get into dreams and visions that I have had concerning the future, as none of it is provable but I will say this;

This is just the start. They are going to continue to strip away at our rights.

It is our own govts. That are the ones that we need to watch in the near future.

I will see marshal law in the western world, on a world scale. I see that the only place to hide will be in little clans and these clans will be worse than the bikies but safer than in the Hands of those who were the uniforms.

They (the uniforms) will enforce marshal law with peace but force!!!! Watch and see, it is coming in our childrens time.

They will heard us up on buses like cattle, they will control every move we take. Suicide will happen in the streets. The uniforms will bring fear like the Nazis. There presence will be overwelming.
people will run and hid but chaos rules outside the control of the marshal law. So , there will be no were to hide.

These are the times to come and they have started already and will move very quickly now.

The 60`s and 70`s are gone and we have spiralled out of control as a culture and this is our destiny as a result of our blindness.

God help our children. I know your fear blynn, I have 4 children myself.

Jesus is our only hope now, we must know god in this last hour so we don’t fall by the way side. Tell your little girl about Jesus, I too have a 5-year-old little girl named Jamie lee. We need to tell them of the security and hope we have in Christ because I got a horrible feeling that they aren’t going to grow up like we did.

God bless the little children of the world.

I think that our culture is at the panicle of crumbling; within a generation it will be gone. We live in changing times. Jesus is at the door knocking.

Celtic.

A christian can talk freely in the south coz the main denomination there is C&MA. They say that if you are not catholic then you are alliance.

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blackwing , what does alliance mean?? and the denomination C&MA, what denomination is that??? is that a christian denomination???

Debbie,
Are you saying that there are no Americans that are in bondage and that the Americans are all of the promise ????

"Were in bondage under the elements of the world"

QUITE BLUNTLY;

what you are saying is not what it says at all.

These scriptures have nothing what so ever to do with modern Moslems let alone the children of Ishmael!!!

Paul is actualy calling the jews under the law , those of the bond woman and anyone who resieves jesus is under the promise.

hagar and ishmail were a simple type.


He was referring to the Galatians being told by Jews (you know, the ones that jesus said, "your of your father the devil") that they needed to be circumcised.

Paul was telling the Galatians (gentiles) that the Jews were in bondage and of the bondwoman and not to go into bondage by being circumcised they.


24These things may be taken figuratively, for the women represent two covenants.


One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar.

(THIS IS TALKING ABOUT THE LAW OF MOSES NOT ARABS)



25Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. 26But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother.



Debbie, read before and after these verses and see what I am saying.


Galatians 4

1What I am saying is that as long as the heir is a child, he is no different from a slave, although he owns the whole estate. 2He is subject to guardians and trustees until the time set by his father. 3So also, when we were children, we were in slavery under the basic principles of the world. 4But when the time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under law, 5to redeem those under law, that we might receive the full rights of sons. 6Because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, "Abba, [1] Father." 7So you are no longer a slave, but a son; and since you are a son, God has made you also an heir.

Paul's Concern for the Galatians

8Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods. 9But now that you know God--or rather are known by God--how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable principles? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again? 10You are observing special days and months and seasons and years! 11I fear for you, that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, different nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;



31Therefore, brothers, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.


PAUL TALKS OF THE LAW AS THE BOND WOMAN AND GRACE THROUGH CHRIST AS THE FREE WOMAN.



Debbie, it all gets put together if you read the first few verses of the next chapter.

Galatians 5
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye were circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
7 Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth?


To say that all of America are Christian and all of Israel are of the promise and that all of the Ishmaelite are of the bondwoman is a gross misinterpretation and is simple proof of what happens when we read the bible thinking that everything is relevant to us today and the future and we forget the past.

celtic

America tends to be mustering a type of crusader attitude to the Islamic religion again.

Last time that happened the rivers flowed with blood. It was not crusader blood either and still we blame the Moslems for everything.

I can tell you, sitting from the outside, I see a very different picture.

Some Americans are starting to sound irrationally like the crazy terrorists that hate Americans so much because of their atrocities.

I see mass propaganda in the west and the hardest thing of all is to see the population suck up this propaganda and believe it and do exactly as there told to do by the very people lying to them.


We die for a lie so their agenda can go forward.

Christians talk about prophesy all the time, the beast this and the antichrist that.

The thing is, it is most likely that the beast is Europe and America and the antichrist will be the pope to come.

And we think it is the Moslems that are threatening us but it is our own govts.

We will be under international martial law by our own govts. Before the decade is out because of stupid people that believe the crap fed to us from the beast and the anti Christ or should I say, "the govts. And the church."

Frankly so

Celtic.