Supernatural Childbirth

Andrew, Thank you so much for your prayer and I agree in Jesus name that we will have a supernatural pain free, quick labor childbirth! Amen!
Although I am nervous and especially since my husband just sat down to read the book, I will not give up my faith in Jesus! I have a question, lets say you do have pain, does that mean you still need to grow in more faith? I will look on the church testimonies you mentioned now. God bless you!

And thank you all for replying!

Originally posted by Ella

I have a question, lets say you do have pain, does that mean you still need to grow in more faith?

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I certainly hope you don't believe this Ella.

Pain in childbirth is the normal course of life in the time/space we now live in. God can and may give you less pain in childbirth and then again he may not. It is not a matter of how much faith you have, and I think it is extremely damaging to teach people that they need more faith when things don't happen the way they expected.

Romans 8:19-22 says it all:

"For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; 21 because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now."

We look forward to a new heaven and a new earth wherein dwells righteousness as promised in Revelation chapter 21. Where there is no more death, mourning, crying or pain for the old order of things will have past away and all things will become new. That is the hope of the believer my friend.

I pray for God's rich blessings in your childbirth

Apologist, thank you for the reply. I have read a book called supernatural childbirth and it says that if you beleive and have faith in the promise that Jesus died on the cross to redeem us from pain, suffering, ect then the curse of childbearing sorrow and pain no longer exists. It says that Jesus took on that curse for us. This is just interesting to me since I always beleived pretty much that it's normal to accept the pain in birth. But now I am reading that you don't have to accept that and you can have faith that the curse is broken through Jesus.

Originally posted by Ella
I have read a book called supernatural childbirth and it says that if you beleive and have faith in the promise that Jesus died on the cross to redeem us from pain, suffering, ect then the curse of childbearing sorrow and pain no longer exists. It says that Jesus took on that curse for us. This is just interesting to me since I always beleived pretty much that it's normal to accept the pain in birth. But now I am reading that you don't have to accept that and you can have faith that the curse is broken through Jesus.

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With all due respect that is absolute baloney!

Where do people think that the scripture teaches that in this life Christ removed the pain and sufferings of this world?

Revelation 21 that I mentioned earlier says this in verse 4:

"And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

If pain was done away with at the cross and applies to us now, why does God procalim this promise that is yet future? The simple answer is that because it has not yet happened.

This is just another example of bad teachings being taught in the church today and it bothers me greatly.

Amen Apologist.

Some advice: pray that you and your child will be healthy, and that God comforts you so you can handle the pain.

Also, have your husband in the delivery room with you; it is a loving and supportive thing for your husband to do for you and the child, and it will be a memory that you both shall share.

Ofcourse, some medication may be good, but maybe not-I am not very learned in anesthetics and how healthy they are (for you, and for the child).

I have a friend who is really into New Age remedies, and she was trying something alled hypno-birthing where they more or less just get themselves into a trance in order that they minimize the pain... yeah, she said "forget this" at about 4 centimeters

My wife and I do believe in miraculous healings and such, but we through careful investigation (I have an army of ministers in my family ) have come to the conclusion that seeking miraculous painfree experiences are testing God... which is something we don't want to do.

I know many women who are scared of pain, while men, not so much. When I was in boot camp, the girls woudl do two or three push ups then fall on their faces because it hurt... but within about a week, they were pushing them out with the guys because they had developed a tolerance for pain, something women in our culture aren't taught as vigorously as boys (who are told all through childhood to "walk it off")

So when I was goign through swift water rescue school when I was about 19 our class motto was "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger." That little cheer really helped me survive some painful training because I got myself pumped.

This is the type of attitude my wife has adopted... and she is practically set on delivering without anesthetics (partially because she is a borderline health nut who distrusts medication).

The point to my rambling is, don't get yourself set on having a miraculously painfree child birth, because it may not be God's plan, and when there is pain, you won't be prepared for it.

Zach

Good post coastie.

I hope, ella, that if have a baby with some pain (like most of us do), that you don't think you have a lack of faith.  Wouldn't that be equal to something like a guilt-gospel?

Even if you do experience some pain, it's absolutely NOTHING compared to having that precious, beautiful life in your arms.  Make sure hubby is there at your bedside at your beck and call, rubbing your back, feeding you ice chips, heck.....have him give you a foot massage if you want!   You'll love the experience.  There's nothing like it.

Originally posted by coastie
So when I was goign through swift water rescue school when I was about 19 our class motto was "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger." That little cheer really helped me survive some painful training because I got myself pumped.

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Zach,

That reminds me of the U.S. Navy SEALs Motto:

"The only easy day was yesterday."

God Bless

Hey Ella,

Andrew is telling you some good stuff. I encourage you in whatever God is leading you to believe Him for. There is nothing too hard for God to do.

Be blessed!
Quaffer

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pls dont let the skeptics rob you of your miracle.

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Andrew, now-now.  Remember the complaint you had about how people of other denominations would criticize your faith?  Please remember it's a 2 way street. 

This is a Non-Denominational forum, not a Word of Faith forum.  Please keep this in mind.  I want for there to be peace between everyone.  Everyone.

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Originally posted by Andrew
so are you saying that what my church/pastor or denom teaches is "absolute baloney" and "bad teaching"? You are breaking the rules again, Apologist.

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Actually you are breaking the rules by naming me personally.

I never said anything about anyone personally, only the unbiblical teachings of some groups.

no pain during childbirth can happen, I'm sure, but I'm not convinced its 1. supported by scripture or 2. has anything supernatural about it....thus far anyway

I was raised rather inconspicuosly concerning God's laws.... we went to church but were otherwise quite heathen shall I say...

I had 2 abortions before the age of 21. I got real ill after the second...

After that I had a few steady relationships over the years, even for several years with one, a few with another, never married but never got pregnant again.

By the age of 28 or so my abortions, the thought of it hounding me day in day out, were eating me up inside.... thats probably about the time I started thinking about God, I started repenting... even saying I was sorry, every day almost....

I was involved with a guy for about 3 years, I was catholic back then, never went to church but considered myself catholic...so was he... I wanted to get married, I still wanted children.. it was really all I ever wanted everything else I had done becuase my parents had set me on a certain course earlier in life, I was successful in parts of that, other parts I shyed from like any kid... but anyway... i was now 33 years old... I had prayed lots of times for a husband a family, I always had a boyfriend no shortage of those but i wanted to get married... of course the fact that as far as I knew I couldn't get pregnant didn't help me in that area... nonetheless one day I prayed, this is after several years now of tears and prayers to God saying I was sorry and asking for his help... a husband a family, one day I said "Father, if you will give me a child I will raise him up for you..."

3 weeks later it was confirmed, I was pregnant.
I have a beautiful daughter, him is a she... I got saved real hard about 1 year later to the day of her birth... by Jesus... no church till later, at home I was saved i was looking hard for him because I had promised and I remembered but i didn't know what to do... it was awesome... my daughters dad left he didn't want the responsibility and I hate fighting... I do better by now than I ever imagined I could, we have a stable home, just the 2 of us and assurance daily that the Lord is by our side.

He is so awesome words are not good enough... we no longer attend the catholic church just rather non-denominational... he taught me too much to go back there I see too much...