Orthodox wants to turn lutheran

goldbeach · May 31, 2011

ByzantineDixie said:
I don't know about that...a Greek yiayia can be as formidable force as any Muslim if she finds out her grandson has been flirting with the Lutheran Church.

Seriously Fotis...I have the perfect book for you to read so you can see Orthodoxy compared to Lutheranism side by side and get a good picture of both--where they are compatible and where they are not. In the late 1500's the Tuebingen Lutherans sent their theology to the Patriarch in Constantinople and through as series of mail exchanges, 3 on each side, you can see what each believes compared to the other. This was at the time the Book of Concord was being finalized so the Lutheran presentation is definitely representative of confessional Lutheranism. You might even be able to find the compilation in Greek.

Don't let a Lutheran tell you about Orthodoxy and don't let an Orthodox tell you about Lutheranism. Read both for yourself from the sources. But don't tell your yiayia or you will be in big trouble!

BD can tell us both sides since she's experienced in both. Believe it or not she is bias towards one side though.

ByzantineDixie · Jun 1, 2011

goldbeach said:
Believe it or not she is bias towards one side though.

Totally!

Basil the Great · Jun 1, 2011

Perhaps there might be a Lutheran pastor associated with the German embassy or a Scandinavian embassy who serves the needs of the ambassadorial staff stationed in Athens? It is possible that one of the staff members could be an ordained Lutheran minister and that he is just a part-time minister and full-time embassy staff member?

Fotis Greece · Jun 1, 2011

Basil the Great said:
Perhaps there might be a Lutheran pastor associated with the German embassy or a Scandinavian embassy who serves the needs of the ambassadorial staff stationed in Athens? It is possible that one of the staff members could be an ordained Lutheran minister and that he is just a part-time minister and full-time embassy staff member?

As i said previously there is a german lutheran church here in thessaloniki where i live... i have sent them an e mail ... but they said that i should contact with the Greek Evangelical Church... the point is that this church Reformed.And they said that they can't do anything for me

Kalevalatar · Jun 1, 2011

Fotis Greece said:
Basil the Great said:

Perhaps there might be a Lutheran pastor associated with the German embassy or a Scandinavian embassy who serves the needs of the ambassadorial staff stationed in Athens? It is possible that one of the staff members could be an ordained Lutheran minister and that he is just a part-time minister and full-time embassy staff member?

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As i said previously there is a german lutheran church here in thessaloniki where i live... i have sent them an e mail ... but they said that i should contact with the Greek Evangelical Church... the point is that this church Reformed.And they said that they can't do anything for me

Great suggestion, Basil the Great!

So I went and checked. Unfortunately, turns out, the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland has a tourist pastor only in Rhodos -- that's too far.

However, the Church of Sweden has the whole works. They even have a Scandinavian group in Thessaloniki, with a visiting pastor from Athens.

Swedish-Greek Society: svenskgrekiskaforeningen@yahoo.se
Chairperson Ingabritt Tombolidou tel 6993 923651.
Pastor in Athens: tel 210 4516564 or email: aten@svenskakyrkan.se
http://www.svenskakyrkan.se/grekland

SKANDINAVISKA KYRKAN
Daidalou 18, Plaka
105 58 Aten
Grekland
Telefon +30 210 4516564
Kyrkoherde (=vicar) Gunnar Lidén mobil +30 6946 072428
E-post aten@svenskakyrkan.se

http://svenskakyrkanigrekland.wordpress.com/

The information is in Swedish, but should you be interested, I'll be more than happy to translate it for you.

Hope the "Scandinavian Church" will be able to help you. :wave:

Fotis Greece · Jun 2, 2011

Kalevalatar said:
Great suggestion, Basil the Great!

So I went and checked. Unfortunately, turns out, the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland has a tourist pastor only in Rhodos -- that's too far.

However, the Church of Sweden has the whole works. They even

The information is in Swedish, but should you be interested, I'll be more than happy to translate it for you.

Hope the "Scandinavian Church" will be able to help you.

I Really thank you my friend.God Bless you! I can translate with Google translate

.

Catholic_NE · May 13, 2012

Fotis Greece said:
I realy want to join a lutheran church but there aren't any here in greece...What shoud i do

Hi Fotis. I just read this thread for the first time. Then I noticed that you now consider yourself a Mormon. Bit surprising ... granted, this thread is almost a year old; but a year isn't very long for an Orthodox-wanting-to-become-Lutheran to become Mormon.

truthseeker32 · May 14, 2012

Catholic_NE said:
Hi Fotis. I just read this thread for the first time. Then I noticed that you now consider yourself a Mormon. Bit surprising ... granted, this thread is almost a year old; but a year isn't very long for an Orthodox-wanting-to-become-Lutheran to become Mormon.

I am a former Mormon familiar with the way missionary efforts are carried out. Unlike some denominations that encourage investigators to to take their time so they understand what they are getting into (Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox) LDS missionaries often speed investigators through the conversion process. I've seen some go from their first lesson to baptism in a few weeks, so less than a year is enough time to convert to the LDS faith a dozen times.

I think the LDS church should strive to take investigators through a slower conversion process so they have a lower turnover rate.

DaRev · May 14, 2012

Sad to see someone lose their faith to a cult. Prayers are lifted that he be brought back to the true faith.

truthseeker32 · May 14, 2012

DaRev said:
Sad to see someone lose their faith to a cult. Prayers are lifted that he be brought back to the true faith.

Oh the old cult accusation...

DaRev · May 14, 2012

truthseeker32 said:
Oh the old cult accusation...

Correct. It is an old cult.

truthseeker32 · May 14, 2012

DaRev said:
Correct. It is an old cult.

The word cult has become pretty meaningless. People define and use it as they please. Below are some typical definitions of the word that show that it can be applied to just about every religion that exists.

1. a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
2.
an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, especially as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.
3.
the object of such devotion.
4.
a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.
5.
Sociology . a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.

MarkRohfrietsch · May 14, 2012

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DaRev · May 14, 2012

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snowpumpkin · May 25, 2012

ByzantineDixie said:
Don't let a Lutheran tell you about Orthodoxy and don't let an Orthodox tell you about Lutheranism. Read both for yourself from the sources. But don't tell your yiayia or you will be in big trouble!

Excellent! I just wanted to pop in and say as a struggling Orthodox myself, I appreciate this comment.

Most Orthodox online are diehard converts and would push Orthodoxy to no end.

MarkRohfrietsch · May 26, 2012

snowpumpkin said:
Excellent! I just wanted to pop in and say as a struggling Orthodox myself, I appreciate this comment. Most Orthodox online are diehard converts and would push Orthodoxy to no end.

Hi snowpumpkin :wave:

; welcome to TCL and welcome to CF!

DaRev · May 26, 2012

snowpumpkin said:
Excellent! I just wanted to pop in and say as a struggling Orthodox myself, I appreciate this comment. Most Orthodox online are diehard converts and would push Orthodoxy to no end.

The irony is hilarious.

snowpumpkin · May 26, 2012

DaRev said:
The irony is hilarious.

I try.

While I am an Orthodox convert, I just cannot believe that it is the only way. To do that, I would have to accept the damnation of my Protestant family and I just can't, right or wrong.

I think everyone has to find their way to God, wherever you fall in life.

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