Another "let's say" question: Would you vote Democrat if...

How is this for an answer?

If Obama and McCain had switched parties (just as a hypothetical!) I still would have voted Obama.

Party means very little to me.

The stance and platform of the Democratic party make it a no vote. The Democratic party would have to remake itself completely before I would consider voting for a Democrat.

If Obama turns Republican before the next election and is the only Republican choice, I would vote Independent or do a write in. In other words, Obama is a no vote regardless of the circumstances.

357magnum said:

The stance and platform of the Democratic party make it a no vote. The Democratic party would have to remake itself completely before I would consider voting for a Democrat.

If Obama turns Republican before the next election and is the only Republican choice, I would vote Independent or do a write in. In other words, Obama is a no vote regardless of the circumstances.

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This.^^

I was to young to remember much of what JFK did, but I do remember from history that he talked down Nikita Khrushchev during the missile crisis. Maybe if he had lost to Tricky Dickie, we wouldn't have had to go through an episode like "Watergate".

357magnum said:

The stance and platform of the Democratic party make it a no vote. The Democratic party would have to remake itself completely before I would consider voting for a Democrat.

If Obama turns Republican before the next election and is the only Republican choice, I would vote Independent or do a write in. In other words, Obama is a no vote regardless of the circumstances.

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I can say the exact same thing for either party. Democrats can be just as nasty and crooked as Republicans. Anyone would be a fool not to realize this. The last two states I have lived in, FL and NC, have had major problems with their local Democrat parties. And the Republican parties have been just as bad and as shameful truthfully. It is a very sad truth that a lot of politicians are little more than angry overgrown children. It is our job as citizens to keep them in line and monitor them and if necessary...remove them.
We jailed our Speaker of the House a few years ago in NC...Jim Black a Democrat. So yes, we can make a difference if we pay attention.

But I do want to be involved in the process, so I still chose to vote.

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Most people don't know that history and when confronted with the facts many go into denial yet what you said is very accurate. There is quite a bit of information about this that gets essentially ignored, surely it is not taught in schools. Very few people have enough curiosity to find out the truth but you have and you presented it very well too. Thanks it is nice to see another truth seeker place a pearl before us.



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I think that, if Kennedy were alive today, even HE would not have voted for obama.....

"I am a Republican, a black, dyed in the wool Republican, and I never intend to belong to any other party than the party of freedom and progress." - Frederick Douglas

ILoveBacon said:

So you mean to tell me you agree with everything the Republican Party stands for? Everything? When people are this party-loyal I have to guess that they've lost the ability to think for themselves.

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You don't have to agree with everything the party stands for when everything the other party stands for goes completely against everything you believe.

You don't have to agree with everything the party stands for when everything the other party stands for goes completely against everything you believe.

My feelings exactly. I'm not so much a "broken-glass Republican" who would crawl through broken glass to vote for the R, it's more that I am a "broken-glass anti-Democrat"

I have no loyalty to the Republican Party, though I've been a party official, delegate and candidate. I have no loyalty to the Libertarian Party, though I'm a dues-paying, card-carrying, convention-going member. So what am I loyal to? To the principles of small government, low taxes, individual liberty and strict adherence to the Constitution, strictly interpreted. (I'm a lot like Ron Paul, except not so non-interventionist on foreign policy.)

I will vote for anyone of any party who embodies those principles, if not perfectly, at least significantly better than the opposition. And yeah, if JFK were back, he could be that guy, as compared to a lot of the others around today. I'd certainly prefer him to either McCain or Obama.

ILoveBacon said:

So you mean to tell me you agree with everything the Republican Party stands for? Everything? When people are this party-loyal I have to guess that they've lost the ability to think for themselves.

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Don't put words in my mouth. If I had meant to say that, I would have said that. So, you speak for yourself.

It's hard to say. Granted, the president is the most important person in America. On the other hand, he is backed by a party that is expected, by lobbyists and constituents, to tow the party line. A president could cave to pressure from his party to waiver on their views. So, in that respect, no, I don't think I could feel confident voting for a Democratic candidate even if they had more conservative leanings, as they would still be expected to uphold the party's ideals.

WannaWitness said:

...the candidate were more like John F. Kennedy?

I've heard many who tend to vote straight Republican admit that they had no major problems with the Democrats from way back in the past. Of course, I didn't experience the Kennedy era personally as I wasn't even around, but from what history records of him, coupled with the impression he apparently made on others who remember his administration, it turns out he was one of the most respected Presidents, almost right up there with President Lincoln (in fact, I see they were similar in many ways).

As usual, I'm simply curious. I truly hope no one is offended at my asking such a question. If anything, it might make for a nice discussion.

Please, though: try to keep it civil.

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i wasn't born til after kennedy's assassination, so i really don't know if i'd vote for someone more like him. but.... i'm not so stuck to party lines that i wouldn't vote for a democrat. a few years back, i really liked some politician named zell miller. he was a democrat, but if he'd have run for president, he'd have been a strong contender for me.

EarthPsalts said:

i wasn't born til after kennedy's assassination, so i really don't know if i'd vote for someone more like him. but.... i'm not so stuck to party lines that i wouldn't vote for a democrat. a few years back, i really liked some politician named zell miller. he was a democrat, but if he'd have run for president, he'd have been a strong contender for me.

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Ol' Zell was pretty cool. But not a chance the Democrats would nominate him. He was one of those old school Southerners who were Democrats because of family and regional tradition, not because he agreed with with anything the modern party stood for.

Zell Miller was a hero of mine, also

I will vote based on the candidate that most closely follows the Biblical views on morality. Voting based on my morals is more important to me now than voting based on my paycheck or what the government can give me.

"What we don't oppose, we condone". If I voted for someone who was pro-abortion or pro-immorality then I would be guilty of supporting them when I had a chance to do otherwise. Voting is a serious responsibility, and a display of your own character and beliefs.

It seems that all my life so far that Republicans are more morally conservative than Democrats. If this changes then I will have to change as well.

I try not to look at the party, but on how the candidates stand on the issues that I feel important. I do my own research using independent resources. And I rarely pay attention to the adds on TV. That is all propaganda. I will say though, that most of the time it is the Republican who best match my beliefs. Although I have voted for some democrats that have fit my beliefs as well.