Why do people believe in the bible?

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Because it is perfection of poetry dictated from God through an illiterate man.

I'm asking about the bible though, sincerely. Not trying to start an argument. I hate it when people answer questions with questions.
 
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I've read a few posts here recently where a lot of people say that they don't believe the bible is all truth but some of it is.

How can man pick and choose which parts to base their whole entire lives on? How can we worship something based on what human beings wrote?
The Bible is not this “miracle” given to us as hard “proof” of the Christian God. Humans are not to have “hard” proof, because of the benefit there is to having “faith”. The Bible is a tool to help the Christian (really not much help for the non-Christian) to support what his believe and where he is being led by the indwelling Holy Spirit (the Bible is consistent with the indwelling Holy Spirit).

If the Bible was God’s actual “words” given in Greek and Hebrew we would have to learn Greek and Hebrew (a huge waste of time and of no help). We can use scripture as a tool as it was ment to be used and not raise it to some status of almost being “worshipped”.

The inspired writers become examples to us even today; of how God can work through lowly individuals to do great stuff, equivalent to actually having inspired words written through us. We can allow the Holy Spirit in partnership through us to do wonderful things for others.

The reason I trust (believe) the Bible is because it is extremely useful for getting me though this day of my life. It tells us of God’s Love and gives us lots of examples of how God interacts with individuals (his Children) which I am also one of.

The Bible was not ment to stand alone. By praying for wisdom and believing I will get wisdom, I am promised I will get wisdom. That wisdom is not worldly wisdom but Godly wisdom that helps me understand scripture for my life. If you try to “use” the scripture without being given wisdom it will remain confusing. The way you are really to get to know God is allowing him to help you one on one first hand eyeball to eyeball. God is true Love and can be seen in true Christians working through them with His indwelling Spirit.
 
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I've read a few posts here recently where a lot of people say that they don't believe the bible is all truth but some of it is.

How can man pick and choose which parts to base their whole entire lives on? How can we worship something based on what human beings wrote?
We worship Jesus Christ, not the Bible ;)
 
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I've read a few posts here recently where a lot of people say that they don't believe the bible is all truth but some of it is.
you are aware the majority of Christianity does not think this way? Maybe you should ask your question to those who believe this way or at the very least address them rather the whole of Christianity.

How can man pick and choose which parts to base their whole entire lives on? How can we worship something based on what human beings wrote
Does this present a problem in your faith?
 
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How do you know it was God?
I'm asking you sincerely. I do not believe the metaphysical claims of any religious text so I cannot answer your question. Merely pointing out hypocrisy of your argument.

I wasn't trying to argue. I was asking a question. I believe it was God because I know no other explanation for an illiterate man to spout out words that rhyme so beautifully and have such intense meaning. That's why I believe it was God.

The Bible was not ment to stand alone. By praying for wisdom and believing I will get wisdom, I am promised I will get wisdom. That wisdom is not worldly wisdom but Godly wisdom that helps me understand scripture for my life. If you try to “use” the scripture without being given wisdom it will remain confusing. The way you are really to get to know God is allowing him to help you one on one first hand eyeball to eyeball. God is true Love and can be seen in true Christians working through them with His indwelling Spirit.

I also believe that God is true Love. I love that expression :)

We worship Jesus Christ, not the Bible ;)

Sure but you worship Jesus Christ based on what is written in the New Testament, correct? That's the core issue that I have whenever I think back to my 41 yrs of being a Christian and linger to the comfort that I used to get from prayer.

I mean certainly faith plays a big part but look at how many people place faith in things that are false? For example, take how many Christians look at Muslims - as though Muslims are worshipping the wrong God or worshipping incorrectly. We're talkin' millions of people all devoting their life due to faith in something that may or may not be correct. I say that because I'm teetering on the edge and losing my faith and when I think of the alternative I don't see much proof that it's any more real or correct than what I'm already doing.

you are aware the majority of Christianity does not think this way? Maybe you should ask your question to those who believe this way or at the very least address them rather the whole of Christianity.

Does this present a problem in your faith?

Ouch. Did I offend you? Sorry if I did and I thought I was addressing my question to them - didn't see the real need to pm a bunch of people with a general question. No it doesn't present a problem in my faith since I don't see many different versions of the Quran and as I said above, it was dictated by an illiterate man so it, in itself, to me, is a miracle. It, however, hasn't been helping me much lately. That's why I'm here.
 
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How can man pick and choose which parts to base their whole entire lives on? How can we worship something based on what human beings wrote?

Hi Sister!

I think there's a huge difference between picking and choosing which parts are true, (I think it's all "true" in some sense, just so you know) and picking and choosing which parts to base our lives on.

I try to base my life on what G-d shows me. If that were the entire Bible, I think I'd be a nervous wreck! ^_^

I think what you need is personal experience to base your worship of the Lord on. Isn't that better than a book? You mentioned past experience in prayer, being Blessed. That counts! I encourage you not to look back to try to re-capture what you had then, but to reach forward to a new day. You need hidden manna, just like the Israelites gathered manna in their desert.

Ray

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Ouch. Did I offend you? Sorry if I did and I thought I was addressing my question to them - didn't see the real need to pm a bunch of people with a general question.

No, you did not. I often find it easier to simply ask someone involved with a specific behavior rather than ask an entire people why a few behave in a certain manner..

No it doesn't present a problem in my faith since I don't see many different versions of the Koran and as I said above, it was dictated by an illiterate man so it, in itself, to me, is a miracle.
The Different Arabic Versions of the Qur'an - part 2: Are all Qur'ans the same?

The link above address only a few versions of the Koran. Good luck selling the purity of the Koran to informed people.
 
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I've read a few posts here recently where a lot of people say that they don't believe the bible is all truth but some of it is.

How can man pick and choose which parts to base their whole entire lives on? How can we worship something based on what human beings wrote?

Well I used to think the whole Bible was inerrant and infallible and only recently did I think it had errors, so I havn't yet got a full theology on how that works, but I'll try to answer honestly.

Well I worship a God separate from the Bible and I am happy to learn from other religions too. Humans may written all the Holy Books in the world but God may have had a part to play in many of the major religions, at least in the lives of the writters of the books.

I guess I 'pick and choose' based on the overall point of the Bible. The way I understand the overall point of the Bible is the love of God expressed in the life, death and resurrection of Jesus and the rest of the Bible should line up with those main principles. Its a constant process of learning also.
 
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I've read a few posts here recently where a lot of people say that they don't believe the bible is all truth but some of it is.

How can man pick and choose which parts to base their whole entire lives on? How can we worship something based on what human beings wrote?

For me it's easy. If I believed in Buddha, I'd base my beliefs on everything he said. (And I wouldn't accept anyone else as his equal.) Since I believe in Jesus, I based my beliefs on everything he said. (And I don't accept anyone else as his equal.) That's how I choose.
 
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I wasn't trying to argue. I was asking a question. I believe it was God because I know no other explanation for an illiterate man to spout out words that rhyme so beautifully and have such intense meaning. That's why I believe it was God.

You have flawed reasoning, it called an argument from ignorance*. You cannot concieve of another explanation so you assume its a deity with no evidence to suggest this. There are many far more feasible explanations of why an illiterate man could be credited with authoring a book.
- He didn't actually write it
- He wasn't actually illiterate
- He was said to be illiterate by others to make his writing of the book far more impressive (obviously worked on you)

I don't understand why you have to invoke a all powerful supernatural deity that has no evidence for its existence to explain this. Its comparable to me believing fairies are switching my lights on and off when a far more rational option is I have a electrical fault.

*Argument from ignorance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Hi Sister!

I think there's a huge difference between picking and choosing which parts are true, (I think it's all "true" in some sense, just so you know) and picking and choosing which parts to base our lives on.

I try to base my life on what G-d shows me. If that were the entire Bible, I think I'd be a nervous wreck! ^_^

I think what you need is personal experience to base your worship of the Lord on. Isn't that better than a book? You mentioned past experience in prayer, being Blessed. That counts! I encourage you not to look back to try to re-capture what you had then, but to reach forward to a new day. You need hidden manna, just like the Israelites gathered manna in their desert.

Ray

:groupray:

Thank you, your words really helped!
 
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Sure but you worship Jesus Christ based on what is written in the New Testament, correct? That's the core issue that I have whenever I think back to my 41 yrs of being a Christian and linger to the comfort that I used to get from prayer.
Not based only on the New Testament since one can come to all sorts of conclusions with Scripture alone. Sure, the New Testament helps, but that is not the only thing that I base my faith on. In fact, the Bible play little in what my faith is based upon because my faith is based upon a living entity and not ink on paper.


I mean certainly faith plays a big part but look at how many people place faith in things that are false? For example, take how many Christians look at Muslims - as though Muslims are worshipping the wrong God or worshipping incorrectly. We're talkin' millions of people all devoting their life due to faith in something that may or may not be correct. I say that because I'm teetering on the edge and losing my faith and when I think of the alternative I don't see much proof that it's any more real or correct than what I'm already doing.
Circumstances play a part in that.
 
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Hi my wife is trying to get me to bed, so I can't really focus on getting you a long winded explanation of why I believe in the bible. But What I have done is include true stories from my life of where God has used the ... well just read it and you will see what I mean.

One morning I got up and walked into the hall and I heard a voice that I believed was God say "How would you like to be stabbed in the Valley". The Valley was known as the rough end of town, and the voice scared me a little, I wondered if I had done something to offend God. I had planned to go down to the Valley to ask people out to church as was my habit at the time. In the end I went anyway regardless of the fear. I walked up to the first person I met and asked him if he would like to go out to church. He said to me "I am an atheist, I don't believe in God". I just said "fine", but hoped to change his mind. He then proceeded to unbutton his shirt and showed me scar marks up and down his chest and stomach. He said to me, "I was attacked by a knife wielding man in the Valley some time ago and spent months recovering in hospital, How could God allow that to happen to me". Then I knew why God had said in the morning "How would I like to be stabbed?". God understood this man, but had a good plan for him. Some weeks latter this man came out to church and became a Christian.

Some time after the second Gulf War an Australian man Douglas Wood was captured by terrorists in Iraq, who made demands for a ransom or he would be executed. I set about fasting and praying for his release, I said to God "You know where he is....tell me". Three words entered my mind ABC, Bizaar and "A-meal". I thought "I am going crazy what has all that got to do with him. Bizaar I though "this is Bizarre". I thought maybe "A-meal" is a town so I searched a map of Iraq for a town of that name, but found nothing that really matched. Some time latter Douglas Wood was freed by US troops who came across his captors. It was not until latter that I actually discovered what the three words meant. I was on a forum libertyunites.us and came across a post by a user called ABC in the post she appealed to the captors to release Douglas Wood because he had gone to a/or the Bazaar and bought food for homeless people and had provided them with "A-meal". I believe God saw this action too and blessed Douglas Wood with an escape from his captors.

One time I thought about suing some one but felt bad about it because I did not want to give a bad impression about what a Christian is like. So I prayed and asked God to show me clearly what to do. Latter that day I opened my bible at random, selecting a random verse and it opened to 1Co 6:7 "Nay, already it is altogether a defect in you, that ye have lawsuits one with another. Why not rather take wrong? why not rather be defrauded?" So I knew what God was thinking, no lawsuit. From this I do not believe God was saying the legal system is wrong just this particular action.

At one point in my life I was praying for scientific cures for illnesses like cancer. Because I was on a science kick I thought would it not be fun to create a real life dinosaur. I wanted Jesus just for fun to show me how to create a Real Live Dinosaur, he can show us anything you know if he wants, but when I asked him how to start recreating a Dinosaur. Jesus spoke into my head the sentence "bood", a term I had never heard before. I decided to look it up on the Internet and I found out the following: You see, the children of Semai are taught from an early age, the concept of "bood." If a parent asks a child to do something and the child replies " bood," it means in other words, "I don't feel like doing that," and the matter is closed. Bood means gently No.

One day I was witnessing to a Muslim and he asked me why we ate pork. I used the verse out of the bible which says "It is not what enters the mouth that defiles a man but what comes out of the mouth". After some general discussion I finished for the night. I asked God to give me a verse from the bible to encourage me. I opened the bible at random and selected a random verse. It opened to the exact same verse that I had used with the Muslim. The one about food not defiling. So I knew that God was approving of what I had been talking about.

Wisdom, like an inheritance, is a good thing and benefits those who see the sun. - Ecc 7:11 I have always considered it wise to seek God for every thing in life. By this I do not mean "God, what should I eat" or "what should I wear". Not small insignificant things but things that matter. God cares about the things that we see as significant, things that are important to us. There was a point in my life where I was single, unmarried and constantly bombarded by the worlds system of doing things, a system to which I was diametrically opposed. I wanted to find a partner, but was not really sure how to go about it. By trade I am a computer programmer so the Internet was very familiar to me. So I tried internet dating. I remember getting to a point of meeting quite a few people but not really fully clicking with any of them. So I prayed and said out of all the thousands of people that are online in the world there must be some one who could make a good partner for me. So I deliberately listened for God&#8217;s voice, and prayed once. The word &#8220;Grace&#8221; entered my mind. So I typed &#8220;Grace&#8221; into the search box (that was used to search for profiles). The first profile to come up was of Ru Chen. I had been contacted by Ru Chen once, but we were unable to send messages to one another over the site for some unknown reason. So I tried to contact her again, but again with no success. Some time latter Ru was able to contact me using an email I had sent to her when she had first contacted me, after chatting online for some weeks we decided to meet. We went out together to the movies and just eating out, and seeing each other for some time. Eventually we decided to marry. We went out and bought a ring. Some months latter we got married.

This is a story of God working between me an my wife to get his point accross. One night I was laying on my bed and the verse of scripture came into my mind "With patience possess your souls". Latter that week my wife called me into the bedroom where she was reading the bible not knowing anyting about what I had heard said to me "this is a verse you will like", a thing she never has done before. It was Be patient, then, brothers, until the Lord's coming. See how the farmer waits for the land to yield its valuable crop and how patient he is for the autumn and spring rains. You too, be patient and stand firm, because the Lord's coming is near.Jas 5:7-8 It was not that I was not being patient, for I was, when talking to my mother about it we both felt it ment, the coming of the LORD is near means his intervention in our lives is near. When we are patient we reap a harvest of his blessing given time. So by faith I believe some time, sooner or latter God will do something if we just wait patiently and obediently for him to act, even if it is his final salvation on his return.



I was praying for all Muslum countries on the 27 of Febuary 2011, and specifically for the president of Iran, which I do whenever I pray for them. That God might bring them to salvation that can only be found in the Love and mercy of Jesus Christ. Like the bible says there is no other name given under heaven or earth by which man can be saved. I went into the kitchen, and asked the LORD for a verse of scripture for him, I opened the bible up to a verse, It was quite condemning, so I said LORD you must be able to have more mercy than that. So I opend up the bible again and it opened to "Seek good, not evil, that you may live. Then the LORD God Almighty will be with you, just as you say he is." - Amo 5:14. I was not sure if either of the verses were for him, so I did not send anything. The next day I was having a break from work and thought of him again. So I prayed LORD do you have anything that I can send to bless him with. This time I was on the computer so I used my electronic bible, a different one to the night before. I randomly selected a verse, not looking at where I was choosing and it rested on the exact same verse I had received the night before. "Seek good, not evil, that you may live. Then the LORD God Almighty will be with you, just as you say he is." - Amo 5:14 So I knew God had chosen that verse for him. So I sent him the verse of scripture and an encouragement to seek Jesus. Then on the 6th of March a Sunday I set about praying and fasting, and prayed for the president and all the members of his parliment, again I said LORD give me a verse for them, bless them and bring them to you, even if they have resisted you, just bless them with salvation. I opened the bible and again, and my finger rested on "Seek good, not evil, that you may live. Then the LORD God Almighty will be with you, just as you say he is." - Amo 5:14 I have to admit I am not sure what God's plans are for them, but I know they are good because God loves them. I feel these verses sum up the attitude it is wise to have, "The highway of the upright avoids evil; he who guards his way guards his life. Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall. Better to be lowly in spirit and among the oppressed than to share plunder with the proud. Whoever gives heed to instruction prospers, and blessed is he who trusts in the LORD". Pro 16:17-20.

Hope that all helped you understand why I trust in the bible. God preserves his word through the daily miracles in our lives. To finish let me state that God loves you dearly, he is quite normal, trustable, a good friend, he won't take your life from you and make you miserable.
 
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