Who here really believe that the world will end May 21, 2011?

James1979 said:

Simply going by one verse out of the bible is not enough evidence to discredit a doctrine that could be possibly true. It's like me reading in the bible out of Romans 3:10-12 and leaving at it that, that there is none righteous and none that understand and there is none that seeketh after God. But at the sametime church goers simply tell me thats not true and that people do become righteous through Christ

Shouldn't I consider searching the bible out to see if it's really true that people do become righteous in the eyes of God through the Lord Jesus Christ or should I just be ignorant and stick to romans 3:10-12 and disregard everything else in the bible?

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The problem is that this doctrine cannot even possibly be true. Bible prophecy contains many events described in highly explicit language which have not yet happened. It also very clearly teaches that every one of these events will take place before the day of judgment.

These explicitly stated prophecies contain a period of seven years, followed by a period of forty-five days, followed by a period of a thousand years. So we know that even if the prophetic scenario begins to unfold today, that the day of judgment still at least one thousand and seven years plus forty-five days away.

They also contain explicit statements pf three other periods that take place during these other periods. Two of these are only three days long, but the other one is seven years long.

Biblewriter said:

The problem is that this doctrine cannot even possibly be true. Bible prophecy contains many events described in highly explicit language which have not yet happened. It also very clearly teaches that every one of these events will take place before the day of judgment.

These explicitly stated prophecies contain a period of seven years, followed by a period of forty-five days, followed by a period of a thousand years. So we know that even if the prophetic scenario begins to unfold today, that the day of judgment still at least one thousand and seven years plus forty-five days away.

They also contain explicit statements pf three other periods that take place during these other periods. Two of these are only three days long, but the other one is seven years long.

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You may have absolute confidence in your interpretation of bible prophecies, and may even be right who knows. But to take the prophetic language in the bible and declare that they are "explicit" and "clear" seems to be the same kind of error that this Camping fellow is making.

Biblewriter said:

The problem is that this doctrine cannot even possibly be true. Bible prophecy contains many events described in highly explicit language which have not yet happened. It also very clearly teaches that every one of these events will take place before the day of judgment.

These explicitly stated prophecies contain a period of seven years, followed by a period of forty-five days, followed by a period of a thousand years. So we know that even if the prophetic scenario begins to unfold today, that the day of judgment still at least one thousand and seven years plus forty-five days away.

They also contain explicit statements pf three other periods that take place during these other periods. Two of these are only three days long, but the other one is seven years long.

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Good post brother.

I voted it a possibility which I suppose is a copout considering this. I agree that much is left unfulfilled, and for that to happen without the whole fulfillment of the Word would be.... well just plain wrong.

Our Master has given us signs and told us to watch for Him. He would have lied to us, so if I could change my vote..... I guess it would be Heck NO.

ghendricks63 said:

You may have absolute confidence in your interpretation of bible prophecies, and may even be right who knows. But to take the prophetic language in the bible and declare that they are "explicit" and "clear" seems to be the same kind of error that this Camping fellow is making.

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Is it "interpretation" to say that passages such as this (there are many of them) are both explicit and clear?

"when the Assyrian shall come into our land: and when he shall tread in our palaces, then shall we raise against him seven shepherds, and eight principal men. And they shall waste the land of Assyria with the sword, and the land of Nimrod in the entrances thereof: thus shall he deliver us from the Assyrian, when he cometh into our land, and when he treadeth within our borders." (Micah 5:5-6)

When the Ancient Assyrian came into this land, there was no strength to resist him, much less "seven shepherds and eight principle men," and Israel has never invaded Assyria. So this prophecy, even though explicitly stated in clear language, has unquestionably not been fulfilled. There are a great many such prophecies, stated in clear, simple language leaving no room for interpretation, and which have unquestionably not been fulfilled.

The world can't end Saturday, I'm off Saturday.

sacerdote said:

The world can't end Saturday, I'm off Saturday.

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I agree. My daughter has her senior prom this Saturday and I would hate for her and her boyfriend to miss it.

Here's a link explaining the logic that they're using to clock Judgment Day in at May 21st. They start off using the 11,013 BC creation date coming that comes from this calculation. None of it makes a lot of sense, but they've settled on May 21st as Judgment Day and October 21st (six months later) as the end of the world.

The second coming is -- as always -- imminent, but I'm not marking my calendar on this one.

sacerdote said:

The world can't end Saturday, I'm off Saturday.

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I believe this to be a mistaken doctrinal position because (and I've already repeated this a number of times)............my drivers license doesn't expire until 2013 of which I have the documentation to prove it (the license)

and I therefore challenge you to formal debate on the matter.........day off vs. drivers license expiration

aflower4God said:

You know I saw this picture and it is SO disturbing cause it says the date that the world is going to end "May 21st then next to it, it reads the Bible guarantes it! Oh my Gosh I am so lost in words that it would accually say that the Bibles guarantes the world will end on May 21st, I pray for the person who write that slogan cause that is bad VERY bad. NO ONE should add or subtract anything that is written from the Living Holy word. To add something like that is definatly NOT OF JESUS! SO SAD!

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Harold Camping the founder of the 21 May day of judgement said earlier that in 1994 the world would be judge...

But there is a reason why the Lord don't say when He is coming.. It would be a chaos..

If nobody knows.. Harold don't know too..

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LOL ... free enterprise at its finest ... caveat emptor
What was it Abe said ???
I'm paraphrasing again, Acts ... it's funny though ... save your pets!!!


And on the subject of throwing money away ... reminds me of the lottery ... that fiendishly ingenious stupidity tax. Never have figured out why liberals aren't trying to protect us all against that.


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aflower4God said:

Hi there my dear brothers and sister,
Today my roommate and I were talking about this May 21st day.
First what we talked about was more serious, what are people going to think of Christians when the 22nd comes and NOTHING happens. I mean we folowers of Christ want to spread the LOVE of the LORD, show the LORDS light, not to be a false profit and sadly some people who are JUST learning about Christianity will not take it (Christianity) seriously (I say SOME people) cause of this false profit who is spreading lies about the end. I PRAY for those people to IGNORE this (these) false profits, these false profits are doing A LOT of harm.

This was the second thing I was talking about with my roommate. Can you imagine how many people will use the lame excuse to not go to work that day or they will not be able to afford rent.
Here is an example,
Tenant says: "Landlord, I can't pay rent this month (June)"
Landlord says: "Why not????"
Tenant says: "Well I thought that the end of the world was going to be here on May 21st so I spent the money that I saved for rent to go to the Bahama's cause I thought 'hey I want to take a luxery vacation before the end comes, to just relax on the last day of being on earth' "....
Landlord says: "YOUR EVECTED!"
Seriously, I would not doubt that someone will use that as an excuse to not go to work or pay rent or something, HOW SAD, how very sad!
Bottom line I PRAY for the seekers, that they don't dismiss Christianity just cause of this FALSE profit.
God bless you all and thanks for reading my ramble!

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And if the guy is right, you'll have egg on your face.

Even though I do not agree with this 85 year old man's calculations and basis for his prediction, I am thankful that it forces people who may be on the fence to think seriously about their salvation because Jesus is indeed coming soon whether it's Saturday, Memorial Day or 2 years from now.

The man is watching and anticipating the coming of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. His faith is inspiring and refreshing in this fallen world.

Those who mock and joke about the return of Christ will always mock and joke about the return of Christ and then they will mourn because they missed it as they then suffer under God's wrath.

After all, no man comes to the Lord unless the Lord calls him.

Why should believers care what other non-believers think of us?

Did Jesus or the disciples or Paul care what non-believers think?

This is tantamount to being ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus.

I am not ashamed. I will stand up and say Jesus is coming soon until the day he comes regardless of what nonbelievers say.

After we're gone, the antichrist will blaspheme and ridicule the raptured church according to Revelation 12 and 13, should we care?

I guarantee nothing will happen on May 21, 2011.

If you don't believe in the rapture, does that mean you won't get raptured if it happens?

pop_tart17 said:

If you don't believe in the rapture, does that mean you won't get raptured if it happens?

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In the circles I frequented when I was younger didn't make an issue on this point, or rather it didn't matter what you believed about the "end times" as long as you were born again; if you were born again you'd get raptured.

Though, on occasion since then I've heard one or two argue that if you don't believe in the rapture (specifically the pre-trib variety) you're not really a Christian and therefore, oops!

-CryptoLutheran

Lord Herdsetk said:

I guarantee nothing will happen on May 21, 2011.

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Something will happen.
Either there will be a series of earthquakes when each country reaches 6pm, as Camping has said, Christians will all disappear and go to be with the Lord and judgement will begin; or there will be a number of sad, angry, disillusioned Christians, and gleeful, mocking non Christians. The former may be tempted to give up on their faith, the latter will see it as proof that God doesn't exist and faith doesn't work.

I have to confess that I'm looking forward to tomorrow. Obviously, Camping's rapture will not happen. I am, however, looking forward to see how he's going to wriggle out of this one. I suspect that he will say (as he did when his first rapture prediction failed back in '94) that God decided to have mercy because people repented.

Strong in Him said:

Something will happen.
Either there will be a series of earthquakes when each country reaches 6pm, as Camping has said, Christians will all disappear and go to be with the Lord and judgement will begin; or there will be a number of sad, angry, disillusioned Christians, and gleeful, mocking non Christians. The former may be tempted to give up on their faith, the latter will see it as proof that God doesn't exist and faith doesn't work.

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Let me rephrase. I can guarantee that God will not do anything particularly special on May 21, 2011 or October 21, 2011. People are gonna be disappointed because they had all the numbers added up, and still were wrong about when He was coming back.

It really becomes the ignorant mocking the ignorant. Those who believe He comes back on May 21, 2011 will be sorely disappointed, and those who do not believe He exists won't even have the knowledge of the part in the Bible where it says that no one knows when He is coming back. Ignorance begats more ignorance.

Varicose Brains said:

I have to confess that I'm looking forward to tomorrow. Obviously, Camping's rapture will not happen. I am, however, looking forward to see how he's going to wriggle out of this one. I suspect that he will say (as he did when his first rapture prediction failed back in '94) that God decided to have mercy because people repented.

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i am a fervent believer in a post trib rapture, and in that I can not think that our Beloved would come in a secret second coming.

HOWEVER, just because I DON"T THINK He will be secretly coming this Saturday doesn't mean that what brother Harold and the others are doing is all that bad.

Over the last few days, I have seen or heard of dozens of people who are getting closer to God and to our Redeemer. I have talked to a MUSLIM who is seriously considering the CROSS and His sacrifice for his redemption.

I told this brother that when Saturday comes and goes, would he change his mind, and he said that God was leading him to seek the Cross, and that he would not stray from the path. IDK, but it was brother Harry's prediction that made him think and pray about it.

That is the best part about all this. Harry's prediction has gotten the worlds attention, even overseas. This is absolutely awesome.

All TRUE prophets are led to bring people to the Cross. To their Redeemer. While brother Harold is wrong in prediction the day and the hour, he is right in that our Lord is COMING, and soon. Having full faith in that and praying it comes in his day can't be wrong altogether.

As for pushing people away......

It really doesn't matter what we say irt "rapture" doctrine or salvation to those who will scoff. Our approach to them should always be love, love, love. An "I told ya so" won't work when the rapture does occur so it's best we try to keep them on the fence till they come over to the side of TRUTH in Christ Jesus.

Just sayin.