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This makes no sense whatsoever.
only because it doesn't support your painfully wrong claims

I just quoted you the creation myths as given by the ancient Greeks themselves, namely Anaxagoras, Plato, and Aristotle.
those are the beliefs of a few cherry picked philosophers, i'm talking about the RELIGION OF THE GREEK PEOPLE.


You didn't quote any Greek. You linked to a 20th century American website with no citations.
oh wow so i have to quote dead people to make you believe it? dude beliefs that died out nearly 2000 years ago don't change, you have lost, stop flailing.
you are wrong, i am right.


You linked a 20th century American website with no citations. I gave direct quotes from Anaxagoras, Plato, and Aristotle.
WHICH ARE NOT THE GREEK RELIGIOUS BELIEFS. what i linked was, they are found in every greek book written about the greeks.

are you blind or something?

your cherry picking of some dead philosophers don't change what the greek PEOPLE believed 2000+ years ago.
they believed the gods created the earth from an egg, the universe was chaos.
fishing out the few people with more of a clue than the rest doesn't mean anything.
 
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only because it doesn't support your painfully wrong claims
What wrong claim? That 2+2=4 or that astrolatry existed?

those are the beliefs of a few cherry picked philosophers, i'm talking about the RELIGION OF THE GREEK PEOPLE.
Ever heard of Plato and Aristotle?

Plato was the Scholarch of the Greek Academy and Aristotle was the Archon of the Greek Lyceum. They taught religion to more Greeks than any other human beings in recorded history.

oh wow so i have to quote dead people to make you believe it?
Oh wow, so you have to ignore history in order to deny it?

dude beliefs that died out nearly 2000 years ago don't change, you have lost, stop flailing.
How can they have died out if they never existed?

you are wrong, i am right.
I'm rubber, you're glue.

WHICH ARE NOT THE GREEK RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.
You claim Plato and Aristotle were French?

what i linked was
You didn't link to any Greek.

they believed the gods created the earth from an egg, the universe was chaos.
The Greeks themselves say otherwise.

I think I'll believe them and not a revisionist historian living in the 21st century.

"All things were mixed up together, then Mind came and arranged them all in distinct order." -- Anaxagoras, philosopher, 5th century B.C.

"Then I heard someone who had a book of Anaxagoras, as he said, out of which he read that mind was the disposer and cause of all, and I was quite delighted at the notion of this, which appeared admirable, and I said to myself; If mind is the disposer, mind will dispose all for the best, and put each particular in the best place ...." -- Plato, philosopher, Phaedo, 360 B.C.

"... Anaxagoras, who says that all things were together and at rest for an infinite period of time, and that then Mind introduced motion and separated them...." -- Aristotle, Physics, Book VIII, 350 B.C.

"He [Anaxagoras] said that the beginning of the universe was mind and matter, mind being the creator and matter that which came into being. For that when all things were together, mind came and arranged them." -- Hippolytus, priest, 2nd century
 
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Man, just give it up. All you're going to get from him is a wall of quotemines from various philosophers and ancient historians. Why? Because he considers himself a 'natural philosopher', and believes evidence is from human testimony, not stuff that's actually testable today. You won't win.
i wanna see how far he will go lol
 
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since people named planetary objects after gods that the gods exist and if you don't believe that asinine claim that you don't believe the planets exist
Your logic here is flawless.

nope, but they AREN'T THE PREVAILING BELIEFS OF THE GREEKS EITHER.
I agree you haven't heard of Plato or Aristotle.
 
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nope i think your space jesus garbage is wrong.
Way off topic. You don't know what extraterrestrial means?

did i ever say anything about astrolotry? oh right i didn't
This is a thread about astrolatry. If you don't know what it is or don't want to talk about it then stay out of the thread.

oh and i have presented evidence, i presented evidence of the greeks,romans,norse,hebrews,egyptians and other groups that believe the earth is flat and the sky is a dome.
What utter unhistorical nonsense!

"The orb of the Earth is seen...." -- Vishnu Purana, Book I, Chapter IV

"In the first place, the earth, when looked at from above, is like one of those balls which have leather coverings in twelve pieces, and is of divers colors...." -- Plato, philosopher, Phaedo, 360 B.C.

"Either then the earth is spherical or it is at least naturally spherical." -- Aristotle, philosopher, On The Heavens, Book II, 350 B.C.

"That it [Earth] has the form of a perfect globe we learn from the name which has been uniformly given to it, as well as from numerous natural arguments." -- Pliny the Elder, historian, Natural History, Book II, Chapter 2, 77

"They [Egyptians] consider that the world had a beginning and will have an end, and that it is a sphere ...." -- Diogenes Laertius, historian, Lives: Introduction, 3rd century

"[Pythagoras was] the first [Greek] who called the earth round; though Theophrastus attributes this to Parmenides, and Zeno to Hesiod." --Diogenes Laertius, historian, 3rd century

"... [Pythagoras said] the earth ... is also spherical. ... and also that there are antipodes, and that what is below, as respects us, is above in respect of them." -- Diogenes Laertius, historian, 3rd century

"I write this essay to point out that the most prominent of all scientific stories in this mode -- the supposed Dark and Medieval consensus for a flat earth -- is entirely mythological." -- Stephen J. Gould, Dinosaur in a Haystack, Late Birth of a Flat Earth, 1995
 
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