Alcohol

sure you can drink it, but I think for everyone its different. some people can't at all, for it impairs them too much, others its okay and its actually healthy to do so.

I don't take alcoholic stuff coz the bible says so although i can drink it if i want to.

Drinking is ok, I do it almost daily. I have thick blood if not for grape juice or wine I could easily have a heart attack. Then my spouse cannot touch it because of having hepatitis as a child. The Bible never says that we cannot have alcohol but not to get drunk, or become a drunkard. Let Him lead and ya cant go wrong.

According to the Bible it is wrong for a Child of God to drink strong drink or wine.(or beer for that matter)

Didn't Jesus drink wine? Change water into wine? Tell the disciples to drink wine? What about Ecclesiastes and other places where it tells you to drink?

“Give strong drink to the one who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress; let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more” (Prov. 31:6-7; ESV).

-Chris

According to the Bible it is wrong for a Child of God to drink strong drink or wine.(or beer for that matter)

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What verse is that?

Drinking alcohol is ok, so long as you avoid the following:

• 1. If God has not told you not to do it specifically (a moral conscience thing)
• 2. You do not drink too much and get drunk, or sin somehow because of it
• 3. You do not tempt someone else or cause them to stumble in any way.
• 4. You are of age, and legal to drink.

I enjoy alcoholic beverages with friends, the same way I enjoy soda or coffee. Admittedly, I do enjoy the calming effect of it, but that does not always happen.

As with almost ANYTHING, it should be done in moderation. We should not over-eat, over-drink, etc. You get the idea right?

Originally posted by kern
Didn't Jesus drink wine? Change water into wine? Tell the disciples to drink wine? What about Ecclesiastes and other places where it tells you to drink?

“Give strong drink to the one who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress; let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more” (Prov. 31:6-7; ESV).

-Chris

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Yes, Jesus did drink wine

Matthew 11:18-19
For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, 'He has a demon.' The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and "sinners." ' But wisdom is proved right by her actions."

Jesus was drinking, and was accused of being a drunkard, but wisdom is proved right by her actions


And Yes, Jesus did turn water into wine, he provided the alcohol for the party! That was a wedding feast and Jesus brought the booze!

I've seen people claim that the "wine" Jesus drinks and turns water into is actually just grape juice, but I don't see any scriptural or cultural support for this.

-Chris

Originally posted by kern
I've seen people claim that the "wine" Jesus drinks and turns water into is actually just grape juice, but I don't see any scriptural or cultural support for this.

-Chris

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Scripture reads "wine."  Not "Welch's grape juice." 

Originally posted by Gideon4God
 

Scripture reads "wine."  Not "Welch's grape juice." 

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LOL. I like that. I think wine is no big deal. As for the hard stuff I would say no. All it would take is one person seeing you drink (lets say another believer) and makes them fall away. I'm just saying you should be careful. Myself I have always hated the tast.

" I'm just saying you should be careful."

Exactly, that's the problem, where does my repsonsiblity end and theirs begin....grey area so I don't drink around anyone that might have a problem with it..and when it doubt, the way of not doing an action is better (if the action could be construded as sin).

Originally posted by Jephunneh
According to the Bible it is wrong for a Child of God to drink strong drink or wine.(or beer for that matter)

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BUZZZZZZ!

wrong answer, thanks for playing though.

Hello- I agree that the Bible doesn't forbid drinking alcohol, it says that being drunk is the sin; but if an individual decides it's wrong for him/her, then it's wrong for him/her!!!  Some folks either can't drink the stuff (history of problems with alcohol, medical issues, etc); and some have decided drinking alcohol doesn't match up with  their beliefs about how they represent Christ.  Personally, I don't really like the stuff (glad the Bible doesn't discuss Coca-cola ...), but don't think there's anything wrong with a drink now and then....      Will St. Peter have a breathalyzer at the Gates???   just kidding.....

The bible says we shouldn't get drunk.

Prov. 20:1 Drinking too much makes you loud and foolish. It's stupid to get drunk!

If drinking 12 cans of beer get you drunk then don't do it but if drinking 2 cans leaves you feeling ok then I say go ahead!

I hate it when certain christians and churches preach such rubish as saying if you have a drink your going to hell. This is why so many non believers are turned off by us christians!

Are there any scriptual references from the NT (or anyware out of proverbs) about getting drunk? I mean, what is the point of drinking if you don't get drunk. Unless you like the taste (tastes awful though IMO).

kern
Give strong drink to the one who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress; let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more

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This seems strange, as I would think it should say the opposite. I mean, giving alchohol to depressed people, letting them drink to forget their sorrows, you are inviting them to alcoholism by doing so. I do not understand that the Bible would promote you to offer drinks to depressed people.

It does seem odd, but I took that straight from Proverbs.

The point of drinking without getting drunk would be either (a) because you like the taste (or the way it goes with food), (b) because a glass or two can be relaxing, or (c) because it's a social thing.

-Chris

Kern, what is the passage location?