Creationism in Canada

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A new poll just came out re: the prevalence of creationism in Canada. Some of the findings:

"A new national poll discussed in the Toronto Globe and Mail (March 21, 2011) indicates that 14 percent of Canadians think that God created humans in their present form within the last 10,000 years, while 19 percent think that humans evolved over time but through divine guidance and 58 percent think that humans evolved through natural selection."

"According to Ekos's data tables (PDF, pp. 77-79), creationism was strongest in the Atlantic provinces (25.1 percent) and Alberta (18.8 percent), stronger among women (18.8 percent) than men (9.5 percent), stronger among those with "right" ideology (22.4 percent), and stronger with those who attended religious services more than once in the past three months (38.4 percent). The "natural selection" option was particularly popular among respondents in Quebec (67.6 percent), less than twenty-five years old (73.9 percent), with university education (72.8 percent), and with "left" ideology (74.2 percent)."

From: Polling creationism in Canada | NCSE
 

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In my experience, Creationism is an American cultural issue. No one in Europe, Australia or Asia gives it much thought at all (except American missionary churches), and certainly do not try to eliminate evolution from school.

It is mostly (not completely) a non-issue outside the USA.
 
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Hi all,

Just remember, the road to eternal life is narrow and few there be that find it. Based on those words by my Savior, I wouldn't really expect a majority to believe the truth.
Are you implying that eternal life is granted on the basis of our rejection of evolution? :confused:
 
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Are you implying that eternal life is granted on the basis of our rejection of evolution? :confused:
That's what I thought he meant at first, but I think it is more that Creationism is part of the package people accept or reject. If few people are going to accept the truth of Christianity, few are going to accept the truth of Creationism either.
 
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That's what I thought he meant at first, but I think it is more that Creationism is part of the package people accept or reject. If few people are going to accept the truth of Christianity, few are going to accept the truth of Creationism either.
I guess the geocentrists are well on their way, then. :thumbsup:
 
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That's what I thought he meant at first, but I think it is more that Creationism is part of the package people accept or reject. If few people are going to accept the truth of Christianity, few are going to accept the truth of Creationism either.
Incidentally, it's the packaging of YECism with Christianity that also causes many people to reject the faith. :(
 
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Interestingly (and on a completely unrelated note) none of the theologians and academics at my church are YECs, as far as I'm aware. One of them came out recently at a forum we had for our college-going youth as a stalwart OE/prog creationist: he couldn't deny the geological / physical evidence, but neither was he willing to jettison the historical Adam.

More interestingly, none of the youth had any public problem with that. And mind you, I have never talked to any of them about this issue.

Even in a Muslim country where evolution is (I believe) actively left out of the biology textbooks by religiously-oriented leaders, YECism isn't an issue for Christians.
 
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Shernren wrote:

One of them came out recently at a forum we had for our college-going youth as a stalwart OE/prog creationist: he couldn't deny the geological / physical evidence, but neither was he willing to jettison the historical Adam.

I take it that he's unaware that there is no need to jettison the historical Adam (that an historical, real, literal, Adam can be fully consistent with Theistic Evolution)?

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I take it that he's unaware that there is no need to jettison the historical Adam (that an historical, real, literal, Adam can be fully consistent with Theistic Evolution)?

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From what I can tell, he insists on a supernatural creation of Adam and Eve (hence OE/P C instead of TE). But even that line between OE/P C and TE can be very porous: from what I recall, Glenn Morton believes that Adam was the resuscitation of a hominid child who was stillborn due to a chromosomal fusion, which could incorporate both our biological continuity with chimpanzees and our biological distinctives.

But I'm a bit of a compromiser in this sort of things. I was quite impressed when he said that, to him, there were many very intelligent people on both sides of the issue, but the evidence seemed to favor an old creation and earth, while he couldn't make up his mind as clearly about man's creation. (He even referenced and rejected the Omphalos hypothesis!)

To me, when someone has an appropriately neutral view of scientists (they are honest workers whose conclusions are nonetheless fallible), I am happy enough with their position.
 
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