My vote 2012...so far

Paul Ryan (especially) and Chris Christie are the Republican's best possible canidates. But unless they change their minds, they are not running. No one else is the least bit inspiring.

My favorite Republican is Olympia Snowe. She'll probably never run (as a Republican anyway) because she has zero chance of being nominated. (Her age is kind of an issue, too.) She embodies a perfect combination of social liberalism and fiscal conservatism, which would be enormously attractive to moderates like myself. And she's pragmatic, non-doctrinaire, and can work with both parties to get things done. But she's abhorrent to the GOP's religious conservatives who control the nomination process.

JoyJuice said:

I really don't see anyone from the Democratic party mounting a serious threat to Obama, but on the other side less they bring Ronald Reagan back to life, there really isn't anyone so far that warrants any consideration.​

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At this point even Ronald Reagan would be too much of a "Leftist" for the Tea-Party.

This is my Republican dream ticket: Palin/Bachmann

Elastria said:

At this point even Ronald Reagan would be too much of a "Leftist" for the Tea-Party.

This is my Republican dream ticket: Palin/Bachmann

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Yeah I dream about that too so we can have 4 more years of Obama!

lux et lex said:

Yeah I dream about that too so we can have 4 more years of Obama!

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Well if you enjoy listening to Stephanie Miller or other left-wing talk show hosts a Palin/Bachmann ticket would be pure comedy gold. The jokes would practically write themselves.

Ukrainia said:

Paul Ryan (especially) and Chris Christie are the Republican's best possible canidates.

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I understand that politicians embellish the truth, but the Republican Party would be wise to not run a candidate with an established track record of making stuff up. He'll get eaten alive over his inability to be honest. It may fly at the state level where the media scrutiny isn't as intense, but at the Presidential level it's going to be a disaster for him.

it would be hilarious to see Paul Ryan run. Actually being from the state he pretends to serve, he's just not that bright, and he isn't a good enough liar to get elected. He actually says what Republicans intend to do, rather than what they pretend to do

Saving Hawaii said:

He'll get eaten alive over his inability to be honest. It may fly at the state level where the media scrutiny isn't as intense, but at the Presidential level it's going to be a disaster for him.

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When you have a populace with about a two-week political memory and a national media that refuses to fact-check? I wouldn't be so sure...

Saving Hawaii said:

I understand that politicians embellish the truth, but the Republican Party would be wise to not run a candidate with an established track record of making stuff up. He'll get eaten alive over his inability to be honest. It may fly at the state level where the media scrutiny isn't as intense, but at the Presidential level it's going to be a disaster for him.

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really, though, only Republicans who lie can win. People don't support Republican/Conservative policies, but they can be tricked into supporting Republican politicians who talk a good enough game.

but Christie would have to run on his job-killing record.

ImmortalTechnique said:

but Christie would have to run on his job-killing record.

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Remember: the socialist auto bailout and "Obamacare" are the actual job killers...

ImmortalTechnique said:

really, though, only Republicans who lie can win.

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Replace Republican with Liberal, Tack it to the donkey's butt, and the sentence will be complete.

freezerman2000 said:

Replace Republican with Liberal, Tack it to the donkey's butt, and the sentence will be complete.

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well, it usually happens like this:

Dem runs on something, wins, and then is far more moderate than what they ran on.

Republican runs on something, wins, and then is far more extreme and out of the mainstream than what they ran on.

Often the campaign doesn't match the governing, but it is Republicans who lie because their views don't represent the majority of patriotic Americans.

Have you ever seen a politician who hasn't embellished the truth just a little bit?
Neither party's track record is stellar.

ImmortalTechnique said:

well, it usually happens like this:

Dem runs on something, wins, and then is far more moderate than what they ran on.

Republican runs on something, wins, and then is far more extreme and out of the mainstream than what they ran on.

Often the campaign doesn't match the governing, but it is Republicans who lie because their views don't represent the majority of patriotic Americans.

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And yet, it was the Dems who got shellacked this past election...what does that tell you? That the American people were fed up with the Dem's shenanigans?

freezerman2000 said:

And yet, it was the Dems who got shellacked this past election...what does that tell you? That the American people were fed up with the Dem's shenanigans?

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partly. they aren't happy that Obama was so moderate, and didn't work as fast to clean up the failure of Reaganomics we're living through.

The Republicans, not amazingly, managed to lie well enough to pick up a bunch of seats. But we see what happens when they do what they believe, instead of what they run on.

Scott Walker managed to fool a lot of people in 2010. But now that he's actually doing the Republican thing, he's at 60% disapproval.

Republicans don't stand a chance in '12. Not unless something unexpected happens or someone steps up. Right now they're so bent on "purity" within their party that they'll nominate someone who plays to the base, but not the rest of America.

Though I really really REALLY hope that Palin runs, just for the chance for more Tina Fey skits on SNL!

Double post.