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I know the Bible says somewhere (I don't know the verse off the top of my head) that you're supposed to give those who have special needs special treatment. Before I go specifically into my thread, what are the verses?
The only one I can think of is the story of the good samaritan, but I know there are more verses than that that address what I list below. I'd just like to know for reference, because I know they're in the Bible, I just don't know where!

Specifically the ones I can think of are....

*The elderly
*Those who are widowed
*Those who are homeless and/or living in poverty (or squalor)
*Those who have been thru some type of abuse (verbal, emotional, physical, etc.)

*Those who are ill (either a serious illness, or a chronic one, and/or a combination of the two)

*Those with conditions they were born with that they have no control over (like a learning disability or mental handicap.....such as down syndrome, being mentally retarded, autism; this also would apply to physical ailments too such as being paralyzed, deaf, blind, etc.)

Why is it people are willing to bend over backwards to help those who are destitute, and/or have special needs, but those with normal everyday problems, they're just ignored?

I mean really, the normal people who struggle with their normal struggles and daily lives, they get shafted. Doesn't the Bible say that you're supposed to help whenever possible? That compassion is love-in-action?

So many times people just assume that the reason people are in their rut is because they're not trying or not trying hard enough. They don't even try to listen to how the person needs help, they just assume what the best way is to help them is.

It just irritates me. There are others who have needs to and they're not all struck with some debilitating life situation and/or ailment.

I'm not saying you shouldn't treat 'special needs and/problems with special care'. I just wish people would acknowledge the reality that normal people have their set of problems too.

It's just like they seem to assume that because
the problems of normal people aren't as bad, (compared to those with 'special needs and problems') they're not as worthy of help, time, attention, with getting help with their problems (normal people). That the problems of 'normal people' seem to be mitigated because they're not as severe (or just swept under the rug, or both).

I realize normal people in comparison to those with special needs are in a more advantageous situation, however
sometimes there is just too much stuff (too many problems issues) for one person to deal with on their own.

They need help in a tangible way, beyond just advice. Then people just seem to make huge generalizations (that they're being a freeloader, leech, mooch, etc; that they've not tried hard enough or haven't tried at all). This makes people feel ashamed to acknowledge their problems and how they need help, because they're afraid of getting judged and treated like dung for asking such a thing (for help).
 
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You are right, there is so much focus on helping those with special needs. You most likely never hear of a charity or donation fund, to have for when normal people go through hard times. Although the bible focuses on helping those with special needs, it also focuses on helping each other through times of need. Just an example just because someone is well off and doing decent financially, one day, doesn’t mean they can’t be laid off and need help financially the next week, but the bible does instruct Christians to help each other, in need regardless of a specific situation. I’m not exactly sure what specific scripture you are looking for, but I listed some similar to the illustration of the Good Samaritan for you.

Help others that are in need; don't just wish them well. James 2:15-16

Help your neighbor, if you can. Prov 3:28

Give to him who asks of you, and do not turn away from him who wants to borrow from you. Mt. 5:42.
 
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I know the Bible says somewhere (I don't know the verse off the top of my head) that you're supposed to give those who have special needs special treatment. Before I go specifically into my thread, what are the verses?
The only one I can think of is the story of the good samaritan, but I know there are more verses than that that address what I list below. I'd just like to know for reference, because I know they're in the Bible, I just don't know where!

Specifically the ones I can think of are....

*The elderly
*Those who are widowed
*Those who are homeless and/or living in poverty (or squalor)
*Those who have been thru some type of abuse (verbal, emotional, physical, etc.)

*Those who are ill (either a serious illness, or a chronic one, and/or a combination of the two)

*Those with conditions they were born with that they have no control over (like a learning disability or mental handicap.....such as down syndrome, being mentally retarded, autism; this also would apply to physical ailments too such as being paralyzed, deaf, blind, etc.)

Why is it people are willing to bend over backwards to help those who are destitute, and/or have special needs, but those with normal everyday problems, they're just ignored?

I mean really, the normal people who struggle with their normal struggles and daily lives, they get shafted. Doesn't the Bible say that you're supposed to help whenever possible? That compassion is love-in-action?

So many times people just assume that the reason people are in their rut is because they're not trying or not trying hard enough. They don't even try to listen to how the person needs help, they just assume what the best way is to help them is.

It just irritates me. There are others who have needs to and they're not all struck with some debilitating life situation and/or ailment.

I'm not saying you shouldn't treat 'special needs and/problems with special care'. I just wish people would acknowledge the reality that normal people have their set of problems too.

It's just like they seem to assume that because
the problems of normal people aren't as bad, (compared to those with 'special needs and problems') they're not as worthy of help, time, attention, with getting help with their problems (normal people). That the problems of 'normal people' seem to be mitigated because they're not as severe (or just swept under the rug, or both).

I realize normal people in comparison to those with special needs are in a more advantageous situation, however
sometimes there is just too much stuff (too many problems issues) for one person to deal with on their own.

They need help in a tangible way, beyond just advice. Then people just seem to make huge generalizations (that they're being a freeloader, leech, mooch, etc; that they've not tried hard enough or haven't tried at all). This makes people feel ashamed to acknowledge their problems and how they need help, because they're afraid of getting judged and treated like dung for asking such a thing (for help).

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Your post is long and it seems to have an undercurrent of anger that maybe you need or think you need help and have not received it.

If this is true then what is needed is prayer for you to learn to rely on God, but to also do what He has given you the ability to do as your part.

We are called to help and love everyone. However, we are also not called to enable them to not help themselves.

If you need help and it is something you truly need and cannot help yourself then you need to pray for God to reveal to you what you truly need and what your part in this providing the needs are.

Without any specifics I cannot effectively pray for your needs.

The bible verses you seek are many.
KJG Genesis 49:25 Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:
KJG Joshua 1:14 Your wives, your little ones, and your cattle, shall remain in the land which Moses gave you on this side Jordan; but ye shall pass before your brethren armed, all the mighty men of valour, and help them;
KJG 2 Kings 6:26 And as the king of Israel was passing by upon the wall, there cried a woman unto him, saying, Help, my lord, O king.
KJG 2 Kings 6:27 And he said, If the LORD do not help thee, whence shall I help thee? out of the barnfloor, or out of the winepress?
KJG 2 Chronicles 14:11 And Asa cried unto the LORD his God, and said, LORD, it is nothing with thee to help, whether with many, or with them that have no power: help us, O LORD our God; for we rest on thee, and in thy name we go against this multitude. O LORD, thou art our God; let not man prevail against thee.
KJG 2 Chronicles 20:9 If, when evil cometh upon us, as the sword, judgment, or pestilence, or famine, we stand before this house, and in thy presence, (for thy name is in this house,) and cry unto thee in our affliction, then thou wilt hear and help.
KJG 2 Chronicles 32:8 With him is an arm of flesh; but with us is the LORD our God to help us, and to fight our battles. And the people rested themselves upon the words of Hezekiah king of Judah.
KJG Ezra 1:4 And whosoever remaineth in any place where he sojourneth, let the men of his place help him with silver, and with gold, and with goods, and with beasts, beside the freewill offering for the house of God that is in Jerusalem.
KJG Ezra 8:22 For I was ashamed to require of the king a band of soldiers and horsemen to help us against the enemy in the way: because we had spoken unto the king, saying, The hand of our God is upon all them for good that seek him; but his power and his wrath is against all them that forsake him.
KJG Job 6:13 Is not my help in me? and is wisdom driven quite from me?
KJG Job 8:20 Behold, God will not cast away a perfect man, neither will he help the evil doers:
KJG Job 29:12 Because I delivered the poor that cried, and the fatherless, and him that had none to help him.
KJG Psalm 20:2 Send thee help from the sanctuary, and strengthen thee out of Zion;
KJG Psalm 22:11 Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.
KJG Psalm 22:19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
KJG Psalm 27:9 Hide not thy face far from me; put not thy servant away in anger: thou hast been my help; leave me not, neither forsake me, O God of my salvation.
KJG Psalm 33:20 Our soul waiteth for the LORD: he is our help and our shield.
KJG Psalm 35:2 Take hold of shield and buckler, and stand up for mine help.
KJG Psalm 37:40 And the LORD shall help them, and deliver them: he shall deliver them from the wicked, and save them, because they trust in him.
KJG Psalm 38:22 Make haste to help me, O Lord my salvation.
KJG Psalm 40:13 Be pleased, O LORD, to deliver me: O LORD, make haste to help me.
KJG Psalm 40:17 But I am poor and needy; yet the Lord thinketh upon me: thou art my help and my deliverer; make no tarrying, O my God.
KJG Psalm 42:5 Why art thou cast down, O my soul? and why art thou disquieted in me? hope thou in God: for I shall yet praise him for the help of his countenance.
KJG Psalm 44:26 Arise for our help, and redeem us for thy mercies' sake.
KJG Psalm 46:1 <To the chief Musician for the sons of Korah, A Song upon Alamoth.> God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.
KJG Psalm 46:5 God is in the midst of her; she shall not be moved: God shall help her, and that right early.
KJG Psalm 59:4 They run and prepare themselves without my fault: awake to help me, and behold.
KJG Psalm 60:11 Give us help from trouble: for vain is the help of man.
KJG Psalm 63:7 Because thou hast been my help, therefore in the shadow of thy wings will I rejoice.
KJG Psalm 70:1 <To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David, to bring to remembrance.> Make haste, O God, to deliver me; make haste to help me, O LORD.
KJG Psalm 70:5 But I am poor and needy: make haste unto me, O God: thou art my help and my deliverer; O LORD, make no tarrying.
KJG Psalm 79:9 Help us, O God of our salvation, for the glory of thy name: and deliver us, and purge away our sins, for thy name's sake.
KJG Psalm 89:19 Then thou spakest in vision to thy holy one, and saidst, I have laid help upon one that is mighty; I have exalted one chosen out of the people.
KJG Psalm 94:17 Unless the LORD had been my help, my soul had almost dwelt in silence.
KJG Psalm 107:12 Therefore he brought down their heart with labour; they fell down, and there was none to help.
KJG Psalm 108:12 Give us help from trouble: for vain is the help of man.
KJG Psalm 109:26 Help me, O LORD my God: O save me according to thy mercy:
KJG Psalm 115:9 O Israel, trust thou in the LORD: he is their help and their shield.
KJG Psalm 115:10 O house of Aaron, trust in the LORD: he is their help and their shield.
KJG Psalm 115:11 Ye that fear the LORD, trust in the LORD: he is their help and their shield.
KJG Psalm 118:7 The LORD taketh my part with them that help me: therefore shall I see my desire upon them that hate me.
KJG Psalm 119:86 All thy commandments are faithful: they persecute me wrongfully; help thou me.
KJG Psalm 119:173 Let thine hand help me; for I have chosen thy precepts.
KJG Psalm 119:175 Let my soul live, and it shall praise thee; and let thy judgments help me.
KJG Psalm 121:1 <A Song of degrees.> I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my help.
KJG Psalm 121:2 My help cometh from the LORD, which made heaven and earth.
KJG Psalm 124:8 Our help is in the name of the LORD, who made heaven and earth.
KJG Psalm 146:3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.
KJG Psalm 146:5 Happy is he that hath the God of Jacob for his help, whose hope is in the LORD his God:
KJG Isaiah 41:10 Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.
KJG Isaiah 41:13 For I the LORD thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee.
KJG Isaiah 41:14 Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith the LORD, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.
KJG Isaiah 44:2 Thus saith the LORD that made thee, and formed thee from the womb, which will help thee; Fear not, O Jacob, my servant; and thou, Jesurun, whom I have chosen.
KJG Isaiah 50:7 For the Lord GOD will help me; therefore shall I not be confounded: therefore have I set my face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be ashamed.
KJG Isaiah 50:9 Behold, the Lord GOD will help me; who is he that shall condemn me? lo, they all shall wax old as a garment; the moth shall eat them up.
KJG Isaiah 63:5 And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.
KJG Ezekiel 12:14 And I will scatter toward every wind all that are about him to help him, and all his bands; and I will draw out the sword after them.
KJG Ezekiel 32:21 The strong among the mighty shall speak to him out of the midst of hell with them that help him: they are gone down, they lie uncircumcised, slain by the sword.
KJG Daniel 10:13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.
KJG Matthew 15:25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
KJG Mark 9:22 And ofttimes it hath cast him into the fire, and into the waters, to destroy him: but if thou canst do any thing, have compassion on us, and help us.
KJG Mark 9:24 And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.
KJG Luke 5:7 And they beckoned unto their partners, which were in the other ship, that they should come and help them. And they came, and filled both the ships, so that they began to sink.
KJG Luke 10:40 But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me.
KJG Acts 16:9 And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; There stood a man of Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us.
KJG Acts 21:28 Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place.
KJG Acts 26:22 Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:
KJG Philippians 4:3 And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.
KJG Hebrews 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.​


This is only some references to help there are many more of other words of assistance.

I will wait for your reply.
 
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As far as am I referring to my life with this post? Yes. However, I'm also referring to what our society does as a whole in regards to this. Even mainstream Christianity does this, though possibly to a lesser extent.

I don't think I need help, I know I need it. I've tried to make things better on my own, and I've failed. Yes I know you're supposed to pray to God
for help, provision, etc. but I know he also expects you to use
the opportunities he provides in your life (which is basically his way of
helping to make things better in your life).

I did try praying to God when I was going thru a difficult time. Although opportunities were given to me from him, nothing changed. I did have problems trusting him, but I did have faith that he'd provide for me, things would get better, etc. However it was very difficult to trust him, because I was going thru a very difficult time. I still am going thru a difficult time, and it's much harder to trust God.

Yes I'm angry, but I'm not one to believe being angry with God is taboo; this is because it's a relationship with God, you don't feel the same emotion towards somebody in a relationship all the time, despite that you love them, I know this from past experience in my own life.

I feel to sugarcoat things and lie to God's face, say everything is fine when it's not, say you're happy with him when you're not is just as sinful as being cynical. It's lying straight to God's face when you do that, which is sinning.
 
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You are right that normal people have valid needs too. I get the prayer request list from our church every week, and the number of needs is incredible. Most people have three significant concerns going on in their lives that they have chosen to request prayer for; and many more unspoken ones.

That means everyone needs help.
That means someone has to do it.

Which person is more responsible for stepping out and offering help? Which person is more free, has more resources, has more time....?

None of us want to give up our time and resources, but someone has to take the step out if anything is going to get done.

A few years after I first became a Christian, church members did everything for/with each other: helped move to other houses, tended gardens together, watched each others' kids, loaned cars...

There were still many imbalances, but at least the flow enabled people to think less selfishly. They lived a life of sacrifice, instead of a life of naming and claiming for their own gain. Having others around who were generous made them feel part of a loving community.

I don't know of many people who operate that way now.

2 Timothy 3:1-9 In the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy.

I think it will be perilous because we don't have each other's backs.

 
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Dear Musician4Jesus. Jesus gave us 2 Commandments: Love God with all our hearts, with all our souls, and with all our minds. Love our neighbour as ourselves. On these two Commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets. We are asked to help all we know and all we meet, whether friend or no friend. God will see us doing this and will approve and bless us. Jesus told us that the first and great Commandment is to love God, He made is in His image and He is our Heavenly Father who loves us. Also to love all others as we love ourselves, ALL others, not only the ones we think need help. I say this with love, Musician4Jesus. Greetings from Emmy, your sister in Christ.
 
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Well I mean even when people do help others half the time they don't even have pure motives for doing so. They do so to gloat or to brag, to impress others, be in the limelight (Or ALL of what I just listed).

If you're going to help people but have impure motives for doing so, why bother helping others at all? That completely defeats the purpose of doing so if you ask me.

Still others do so because they think they can earn their way to heaven. That if they're a good person,
that by doing good works, they'll enter heaven based on their own merit.

I think you should help others as a way of sharing God's love and cause it's the right thing to do. However I wonder people also do so because it feels good helping others; they like the feeling they get from doing good, helping others, etc. However is doing so for this reason, impure motives?

I mean I personally yes it feels good to help others, but that's just a bonus. I do so just because I like to help others.
 
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