Approved Apparition in America

Eucharisted · Dec 8, 2010

GREEN BAY, Wis. (December 8, 2010) -- Bishop David Ricken announced today that he officially approves the Marian apparitions at the Shrine of Our Lady of Good Help at Champion.

The announcement was made during a special Mass for the Feast of the Immaculate Conception at the Shrine of Our Lady of Good Help at Champion.

Worthy of belief

It's not fully approved like Lourdes, Fatima and Laus, but it is approved by the local Bishop

Eucharisted · Dec 8, 2010

Here is the apparition's message:

October 9, 1859 (Second Sunday of October. Season of Advent. Month devoted to the Rosary)

"As they approached the hallowed spot, Adele could see the beautiful lady, clothed in dazzling white, with a yellow sash around her waist. Her dress fell to her feet in graceful folds. She had a crown of stars around her head, and her long, golden, wavy hair fell loosely around her shoulders. Such a heavenly light shone around her that Adele could hardly look back at her sweet face. Overcome by this heavenly light and the beauty of her amiable visitor, Adele fell on her knees.

" 'In God’s name, who are you and what do you want of me?’ asked Adele, as she had been directed.

“ ‘I am the Queen of Heaven, who prays for the conversion of sinners, and I wish you to do the same. You received Holy Communion this morning, and that is well. But you must do more. Make a general confession, and offer Communion for the conversion of sinners. If they do not convert and do penance, my Son will be obliged to punish them’

“ 'Adele, who is it?'' said one of the women. 'O why can't we see her as you do?' said another weeping.

“ ‘Kneel,’ said Adele, ‘the Lady says she is the Queen of Heaven.’

Our Blessed Lady turned, looked kindly at them, and said, ‘Blessed are they that believe without seeing. What are you doing here in idleness…while your companions are working in the vineyard of my Son?’

“ ‘What more can I do, dear Lady?’ said Adele, weeping.

“ ‘Gather the children in this wild country and teach them what they should know for salvation’

“ ‘But how shall I teach them who know so little myself?’ replied Adele.

“ ‘Teach them,’ replied her radiant visitor, ‘their catechism, how to sign themselves with the sign of the Cross, and how to approach the sacraments; that is what I wish you to do. Go and fear nothing. I will help you.’ "

The manifestation of Our Lady then lifted her hands, as though beseeching a blessing for those at her feet, and slowly vanished, leaving Adele overwhelmed and prostrate on the ground.

Michie · Dec 8, 2010

Yeah I just posted about the Bisop approving this. I think its exciting. We'll see how it unfolds.

Eucharisted · Dec 8, 2010

More info:
Catechism of the Catholic Church - The Revelation of God
Basic Information on Apparitions
Calendar [1859]
October 9 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
1859 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Advent
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Special Devotions For Months

QuantaCura · Dec 8, 2010

I think that's as fully approved as apparitions get--AFAIK the only difference between this and Fatima, etc. is that Fatima has a memorial on the universal calendar and has developed a more universal following.

ProScribe · Dec 8, 2010

It sounds like something out of a book.

benedictaoo · Dec 8, 2010

QuantaCura said:
I think that's as fully approved as apparitions get--AFAIK the only difference between this and Fatima, etc. is that Fatima has a memorial on the universal calendar and has developed a more universal following.

gabrielListens · Dec 8, 2010

I just saw the article on Spirit Daily. I can hardly believe it! It seems too good to be true!!

_Shannon_ · Dec 8, 2010

What language does Mary speak?

Eucharisted · Dec 8, 2010

_Shannon_ said:
What language does Mary speak?

Good question.

WarriorAngel · Dec 8, 2010

Mary speaks the native tongue of the recipient.

I am glad to see this approved - and the message seems pretty intensive.
Obviously the witnesses helped in this matter.

I wonder what all it took for the approval.

Davidnic · Dec 9, 2010

Awesome

Davidnic · Dec 9, 2010

QuantaCura said:
I think that's as fully approved as apparitions get--AFAIK the only difference between this and Fatima, etc. is that Fatima has a memorial on the universal calendar and has developed a more universal following.

Yeah, unless there is some reason for the CDF to be involved they prefer to not be involved with interfering with the local ordinary and it seems in this case there is no reason. There was just one in Lipa in the Philippines where the Holy See was involved and it was ruled not true. IN very rare cases the CDF appoints a Bishops Conference or panel to look into the matter. There are two off the top of my head. One was Lipa and on Dec 3, 2010 the Bishop got the definitive clarification that the Vatican agree with an earlier ruling of not supernatural by a Bishops conference: link

So normally just the Bishop unless the CDF decides there needs to be further clarification or intervention. And that happens rarely. It is just that it is very high profile when it does.

We will see over time if it rises to the calendar and what the following is.

Davidnic · Dec 9, 2010

This is big though, the first approved apparition in the USA. And as a Catechist her command to gather children and teach them the faith is very special to me. This is a devotion I will seriously consider adding.

Davidnic · Dec 9, 2010

Reading up some Sister Adele is an amazing woman. Vendors set up shop at the school and many accused her of trying to make money off the apparitions and called her a liar. She was placed under interdict by the Bishop and threatened with excommunication. When she tried to take the children to mass the pews were closed to her so she knelt in the aisle.

She was ordered by the Bishop to close the school and chapel and bring him the keys. She obeyed and bought land nearby to continue educating Children as Our Lady told her. She gave the Bishop the keys and informed him the responsibility for the souls lost by this action were now his. He was impressed in this meeting, the first time he ever met her, and returned the keys.

And there is a later miracle that is pretty impressive when there was a fire that devastated the area (from the website):

When the tornado of fire approached Robinsonville, Sister Adele and her companions were determined not to abandon the Chapel. Encircled by the inferno, the Sisters, the children, area farmers and their families fled to the Shrine for protection. The statue of Mary was raised reverently and was processed around the sanctuary. When wind and fire threatened suffocation, they turned in another direction to hope and pray, saying the rosary. Hours later, rains came in a downpour, extinguishing the fiery fury outside the Chapel. The Robinsonville area was destroyed and desolateexcept for the convent, the school, the Chapel, and the five acres of land consecrated to the Virgin Mary. Though the fire singed the Chapel fence, it had not entered the Chapel grounds. Those assembled at the Chapel, realizing that they had witnessed a miracle, were asked by Sister Adele to retire to the Convent, where they were made as comfortable as possible for the rest of the night.

Whats more, the only livestock to survive the fire were the cattle brought to the Chapel grounds by farmers and their families who came to the Shrine seeking shelter from the firestorm. Though the Chapel well was only a few feet deep, it gave the cattle outside all the water they needed to survive the fire, while many deeper wells in the area went dry. Hence, the Chapel well has been sometimes referred to as the miraculous well.

Colin · Dec 9, 2010

Eucharisted said:
Worthy of belief

It's not fully approved like Lourdes, Fatima and Laus, but it is approved by the local Bishop

That's all it needs . Lourdes and Fatima were approved by the local bishop . That is full approval .

gabrielListens · Dec 9, 2010

Davidnic said:
Reading up some Sister Adele is an amazing woman. Vendors set up shop at the school and many accused her of trying to make money off the apparitions and called her a liar. She was placed under interdict by the Bishop and threatened with excommunication. When she tried to take the children to mass the pews were closed to her so she knelt in the aisle.

She was ordered by the Bishop to close the school and chapel and bring him the keys. She obeyed and bought land nearby to continue educating Children as Our Lady told her. She gave the Bishop the keys and informed him the responsibility for the souls lost by this action were now his. He was impressed in this meeting, the first time he ever met her, and returned the keys.

And there is a later miracle that is pretty impressive when there was a fire that devastated the area (from the website):

When the tornado of fire approached Robinsonville, Sister Adele and her companions were determined not to abandon the Chapel. Encircled by the inferno, the Sisters, the children, area farmers and their families fled to the Shrine for protection. The statue of Mary was raised reverently and was processed around the sanctuary. When wind and fire threatened suffocation, they turned in another direction to hope and pray, saying the rosary. Hours later, rains came in a downpour, extinguishing the fiery fury outside the Chapel. The Robinsonville area was destroyed and desolateexcept for the convent, the school, the Chapel, and the five acres of land consecrated to the Virgin Mary. Though the fire singed the Chapel fence, it had not entered the Chapel grounds. Those assembled at the Chapel, realizing that they had witnessed a miracle, were asked by Sister Adele to retire to the Convent, where they were made as comfortable as possible for the rest of the night.

Whats more, the only livestock to survive the fire were the cattle brought to the Chapel grounds by farmers and their families who came to the Shrine seeking shelter from the firestorm. Though the Chapel well was only a few feet deep, it gave the cattle outside all the water they needed to survive the fire, while many deeper wells in the area went dry. Hence, the Chapel well has been sometimes referred to as the miraculous well.

Thats an amazing story!

WarriorAngel · Dec 9, 2010

Indeed - that is an amazing story.

JourneyToPeace · Dec 9, 2010

This is really, really neat. Wow.

I had two questions but WarriorAngel answered the first one -- it being, what language does Mary speak when she appears to people? And the answer was "whichever language they speak".

The other question I had was on Mary's appearance: blonde hair? Or, as the text says, golden. Not that it matters at all, but it just surprised me a little. To speak someone's language so that they understand your speech is one thing, but to take on the appearance of (presumably) a Caucasian (ie, the light-coloured hair) is something I honestly wasn't aware happened in apparitions. Does Mary also appear to look like the person she is appearing to, regardless of their ethnic background? Do we have examples of her taking on different appearances?

Or... by "golden" does it literally mean GOLD?

Sorry if this is the wrong thread to ask in, but colour me curious.

WarriorAngel · Dec 9, 2010

JourneyToPeace said:
This is really, really neat. Wow.

I had two questions but WarriorAngel answered the first one -- it being, what language does Mary speak when she appears to people? And the answer was "whichever language they speak".

The other question I had was on Mary's appearance: blonde hair? Or, as the text says, golden. Not that it matters at all, but it just surprised me a little. To speak someone's language so that they understand your speech is one thing, but to take on the appearance of (presumably) a Caucasian (ie, the light-coloured hair) is something I honestly wasn't aware happened in apparitions. Does Mary also appear to look like the person she is appearing to, regardless of their ethnic background? Do we have examples of her taking on different appearances?

Or... by "golden" does it literally mean GOLD?

Sorry if this is the wrong thread to ask in, but colour me curious.

From all the pictorials - statutes and other depictions from apparition including the one of Guadalupe - her dress and beauty is according to the region she is appearing.

In Fatima - white gown with hair covered. [i think]
Guadalupe - Dark hair and nationality style colored clothes.

And i think this varies as well.
Then again - i would have to look all of them up on what they say she looks like.

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