Election 2010: Awareness or Ignorance?

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Since the discussion topic is 'Awareness or Ignorance' it is a study in misdirection and confusion to see that the subect is now turned to justifying and defending the former titular president and referencing his memoirs rather than reading the reference and responding to the current political repercussions. :confused:

It seems to me that political campaigns and outcomes in this 21st Century are becoming more like tha tactics of psychological warfare and less like the activites of rational, reasonable humans.:D

Becoming? Surely you haven't missied the fact that elections have always been thus. The number of rational, reasonable humans involved in elections has always been small, it's part of the human condition. You can agonize about it if you want, but that won't change a thing.

I read the poll referenced in the op. And? Do you find what it shows surprising?
 
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Bloomberg poll exerpt:

Separate from the aid for the Wall Street banks, the Treasury says the payouts for insurers such as New York-based American International Group Inc. will end with a small loss on investment, as will the bailout for automakers. Only the assistance to mortgage lenders, projected to reach about $45 billion, will never be repaid, Treasury says.
The perceptions of voters about the performance of the economy are also at odds with official data. The recession that began in December 2007 officially ended in June 2009, making the 18-month stretch the longest since the Great Depression.

{The $45 billion to mortgage lenders that will never be repaid is less than the combined Afghanistan-Iraq invasions and occupations amount, which will not be repaid either}.

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Becoming? Surely you haven't missied the fact that elections have always been thus. The number of rational, reasonable humans involved in elections has always been small, it's part of the human condition. You can agonize about it if you want, but that won't change a thing.

I read the poll referenced in the op. And? Do you find what it shows surprising?

'Once the sheeple are awakened, it is sad that they are so soon led to their slaughter by false shepherds.' :p {Lamentation verse paraphrase}
 
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So where will that $4 trillion in lost revenue from extending the cuts be made up?

Under Obama's plan, which would extend the tax cuts for middle income taxpayers, would add 3 trillion in lost revenue. Extending the upper income tax breaks adds 700 billion to that. Attributing the entire 4 trillion to the upper income break is a little misleading.

I won't try to trivialize your point, though, because it is still a great concern as to where this will be made up. One thing is that the $4 trillion is over ten years. It is still yet to be decided as to whether or not the extensions will be permanent or not. I have my doubts as to whether or not this will happen.

My suggestion, but so far no one in Washington has asked for it, would be to extend the cuts for a period of time. Maybe 4 years. During that time, budget cuts can be enacted to try and bring the budget more into balance. If significant progress can be made, reconsideration of the Bush cuts can be addressed. As many of us have pointed out, we are not against raising some taxes. It is becoming more and more apparent that it will become necessary if we ever want to make any headway on paying back the debt. But, we want to see some progress in cutting the spending. One will do no good without the other.
 
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Oh, I have the Memoirs of Ulysses S. Grant on my shelf also. That is about the President whose Army of the Potomac conquered the rebellious southern states, unified the nation, and expanded the States to the west of the Mississipi River and to the Pacific coast, creating a great nation. He was a univifier, not a divider. HIs memoirs are not the subject of this topic either.

When will you read the Bloomberg poll?

;):p
I tend to read articles before commenting on them. Is there something you think I'm missing?
And that's nice about Grant. I'd love to read his auto. Don't have the book though.
 
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