Election 2010: Awareness or Ignorance?

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It's mostly about misdirection. How many times did you hear ads say the democrats raised taxes or that Obama was a socialist fascist muslim? If you trumpet something enough people will start to believe it.

Was is that socialist-fascint muslim slander that persuaded to many voters?

What we happen if all across the USA The Republic-cons of the past minority were now denounced and demeaned in this way?

--"Mitch McConnel is a 2010 Pumpkin Head carved by RNC witches and meant to scare Americans into giving away their benefits!"

--"John Boehner is the 2010 Halloween Devil's Advocate who bewitched citizens to vote for the anti-christ!"
 
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If you trumpet something enough people will start to believe it.

Such as Bush is an idiot and lied?

Decision Points: The George W. Bush That The Media Didn’t Let You See

Posted by GayPatriot at November 15, 2010

I’ve just begun to read President George W. Bush’s memoirs — Decision Points. I downloaded it on Kindle last night and haven’t been able to put it down. I’ll discuss more later as I read more (I’m into the summer of 2000 campaign period now.)

But one takeaway already is that George W. Bush is smart, thoughtful, complex, honest, candid and not the cartoon the media liked to make him out to be.

Like or dislike him — this is required reading!
 
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Posted by GayPatriot at November 15, 2010


Like or dislike him — this is required reading!

Alongside that you will read Fair Game by Valerie Plame, and go view the movie of the same name, now playing at a theater near you, right?:o:sorry:
 
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If you thought 2001 to 2009 was a GOP "success story," you deserve what happens next if the Republicans take control of the White House and Senate in 2012 and are allowed to "finish the job!"

A visual representation of the Republicans "finishing the job" with America:

finishhim.jpg
 
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article said:
In an October report to Congress, released as TARP turned two years old, the Treasury said it had recovered most of the $245 billion spent on the Wall Street bank part of the rescue, and expects to turn a $16 billion profit.
Straw man. I couldn't care less if the treasury turns a profit on this. I'm still mad that the institutions that crashed the markets were given billions at the opportune time to buy up assets on the cheap which is exactly what they did.
It wasn't a bailout, it was a planned and calculated short selling of America. The Left has been hoodwinked into thinking it was somehow a necessary thing.
 
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Straw man. I couldn't care less if the treasury turns a profit on this. I'm still mad that the institutions that crashed the markets were given billions at the opportune time to buy up assets on the cheap which is exactly what they did.
It wasn't a bailout, it was a planned and calculated short selling of America. The Left has been hoodwinked into thinking it was somehow a necessary thing.

Interesting, isn't it, that in his memoirs and book promotion interviews, George W. Bush, the unelected plutarch potentate, explains why he had to 'bail out' those very institutions prior to the transfer of his power to the newly elected President, Barak Obama. He admitted it to Matt Lauer. Strange, how a topic asking if the American voter was aware or ignorant is now twisted into strange doctrine and opinion.

This discussion has now become more like Tales of the Republicant's: Tom Riddle and the Sovereign Satania Doctrine of Lord Voldemort.;):p:wave:
 
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What is the difference between awareness and ignorance?


The Obama administration has cut taxes -- largely for the middle class -- by $240 billion since taking office on Jan. 20, 2009. A program aimed at families earning less than $150,000 that was contained in the stimulus package lowered the burden for 95 percent of working Americans by $116 billion, or about $400 per year for individuals and $800 for married couples. Other measures include breaks for college education, moderate- income families and the unemployed and incentives to promote renewable energy.

{Exerpt from The Bloomberg Poll prior to the Y2010 General Election, referenced in the OP}.
 
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Interesting, isn't it, that in his memoirs and book promotion interviews, George W. Bush, the unelected plutarch potentate, explains why he had to 'bail out' those very institutions prior to the transfer of his power to the newly elected President, Barak Obama. He admitted it to Matt Lauer. Strange, how a topic asking if the American voter was aware or ignorant is now twisted into strange doctrine and opinion.


Once people are emotionally invested enough, facts don't matter. Politicians can openly admit to the opposite of what they previously drummed into people and many people will still believe the former.
 
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Interesting, isn't it, that in his memoirs and book promotion interviews, George W. Bush, the unelected plutarch potentate, explains why he had to 'bail out' those very institutions prior to the transfer of his power to the newly elected President, Barak Obama. He admitted it to Matt Lauer.
Well I wouldn't have to read Bush's memoir to remember that. I followed the whole thing quite well. Which makes it even more surprising that Left wingers tend to have the knee jerk reaction of defending the bailouts.
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Strange, how a topic asking if the American voter was aware or ignorant is now twisted into strange doctrine and opinion.


This discussion has now become more like Tales of the Republicant's: Tom Riddle and the Sovereign Satania Doctrine of Lord Voldemort.;):p:wave:
What on earth? I'm guessing you and I don't read the same books.
 
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Straw man. I couldn't care less if the treasury turns a profit on this. I'm still mad that the institutions that crashed the markets were given billions at the opportune time to buy up assets on the cheap which is exactly what they did.
It wasn't a bailout, it was a planned and calculated short selling of America. The Left has been hoodwinked into thinking it was somehow a necessary thing.

And you have been hoodwinked into blaming the wrong people for the issue. Really, most of America has been hoodwinked.
 
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Tax cuts for middle income earners was part of the Stimulus plan, very true. If Obama had done that and left things like the health care plan alone, he'd have most likely gotten more "atta-boys" for it. Instead, spending increased and drove the debt up further and further. Any economic "benefit" that could have come from the tax cuts, was eaten up with all the continued spending. What Bush did was no better and I'd be one of the first to agree with that. Just because a Republican did it, doesn't mean anything. Spending is still spending and both did too much of it.

He would have been better off to just extend the Bush tax cuts and been done with it. He wanted to let those expire and install his own "version" of tax cuts. If the Bush tax cuts would have expired as Obama wanted, what tax cut would the average tax payer have realized overall? Not a whole heck of a lot. Smoke and mirrors.
 
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He would have been better off to just extend the Bush tax cuts and been done with it. He wanted to let those expire and install his own "version" of tax cuts. If the Bush tax cuts would have expired as Obama wanted, what tax cut would the average tax payer have realized overall? Not a whole heck of a lot. Smoke and mirrors.

So where will that $4 trillion in lost revenue from extending the cuts be made up?
 
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Alongside that you will read Fair Game by Valerie Plame, and go view the movie of the same name, now playing at a theater near you, right?:o:sorry:

Nope, and nope. And I'm not reading Bush's book either, I have never yet read one of those political tomes. I'll leave their records to be worked out by history, yet I have my own views from having lived through the Bush years. He was a good man doing a difficult job during a difficult time.

Just thought I'd pass along the view of a gay conservative, a species some on this forum find bewildering. It's worth at least a post to irritate them.:)
 
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Nope, and nope. And I'm not reading Bush's book either, I have never yet read one of those political tomes. I'll leave their records to be worked out by history, yet I have my own views from having lived through the Bush years. He was a good man doing a difficult job during a difficult time.

Just thought I'd pass along the view of a gay conservative, a species some on this forum find bewildering. It's worth at least a post to irritate them.:)

Since the discussion topic is 'Awareness or Ignorance' it is a study in misdirection and confusion to see that the subect is now turned to justifying and defending the former titular president and referencing his memoirs rather than reading the reference and responding to the current political repercussions. :confused:

It seems to me that political campaigns and outcomes in this 21st Century are becoming more like tha tactics of psychological warfare and less like the activites of rational, reasonable humans.:D
 
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Well I wouldn't have to read Bush's memoir to remember that. I followed the whole thing quite well. Which makes it even more surprising that Left wingers tend to have the knee jerk reaction of defending the bailouts.

What on earth? I'm guessing you and I don't read the same books.

Oh, I have the Memoirs of Ulysses S. Grant on my shelf also. That is about the President whose Army of the Potomac conquered the rebellious southern states, unified the nation, and expanded the States to the west of the Mississipi River and to the Pacific coast, creating a great nation. He was a univifier, not a divider. HIs memoirs are not the subject of this topic either.

When will you read the Bloomberg poll?

;):p
 
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