Why do us christians make such a fuss about Halloween?

why do some christians make a fuss of halloween? Bc their deluded minds are bored and need mental gymnastics to do.

I go to church and theres a huge effigy of christ bleeding and suffering to death for all to see. That has been given the name "Good" Friday. Its pretty gruesome to me.

But on Halloween I pass candy out to five year olds dressed as the latest tv fad.

Why do people get so upset at halloween? Easy: because those people are just generally upset and negative minded people. It has to do with projecting one's own self loathing onto a world that "just doesnt understand."

Macx said:

Wow! So much misinformation.

Halloween is a Christian Holiday. It is the eve of All Saint's Day,

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## Hence the name -

Halloween < [All] Hallows' Even < eve of [the Feast of] All Saints (on November 1st); AKA the Vigil of the Feast of All Saints. Which is a collective Feast for all those Saints known to God alone.

which is a church feast celebrating the Christians who have gone before us. Back in the day, it was not uncommon for the celebration of feast days to begin the eve before. You see this still in Christmas Eve and Easter Vigil (which often begins at sundown the Saturday before Easter.) Halloween evolved from people making a sort of pageant out of celebrating the honored dead to the walking dead (ghouls) with additional scary things thrown in as time goes by.

Christians in the more liturgical traditions (Roman Catholics, Anglicans, Lutherans) by and large haven't forgotten that Halloween is a Christian Holiday. Some of the young denominations protest against Halloween either as a backlash against the Liturgical traditions or as a consequence of not requiring as much education of their pastors.

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Jesse12 said:

Halloween: it used to be some sort of Pagan Holiday.
It does not faze me. Some Christians would say I have a problem.
I'm a Christian and I believe in Hell and Satan, but I know that TRUE EVIL can be found in places like the Church or anywhere , where there is gossiping, hatefulness, much false teachings, pride, slander, strife, ect.
When Christians make a big fuss over Halloween, and stuff the world see us as silly fanatics.

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I am a Christian too, and you're right, too many are silly fanatics.

Jesus wants us to live to PRAISE God, including by living joyfully...
Dressing-up silly, Eating turkey, pumpkin pie, drinking warm cider, and enjoying...ourselves,
we can THANK God, for ALL these abundantly bounteous blessings in our daily lives
Part of this for us, is passing out candy to the Little children...

onemorequestion said:

What kind of person celebrates intense and horrific murder?

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Maybe the same people who celebrate Thanksgiving.

onemorequestion said:

Why is it OK to glorify and celebrate death, murder, sociopathic behavior and evil?

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Are you referring to the crucifixion of Jesus?

One thing that IS a pain about Hallowe'en, whatever one's views on it, is that some kids see it as an excuse to chuck flower and eggs at people's windows and doors and be generally obnoxious. Elderly or infirm people can feel particularly vulnerable, especially when kids come to the door wearing masks and you can't tell who they are.
The problem got so bad that shopkeepers now won't sell flour or eggs to people under a certain age around that time of year..and I think even the police have had to get involved to an extent. And when they're basically just coming round in order to get sweets and money it doesn't seem particularly productive.
A bit different with say carol-singing. The kids may only be doing it for money, but at least they do do a bit of singing to get it.

tansy said:

One thing that IS a pain about Hallowe'en, whatever one's views on it, is that some kids see it as an excuse to chuck flower and eggs at people's windows and doors and be generally obnoxious.

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Strangely, I've never seen this happen where I have lived in the States, or in Sweden either. I guess it does happen, but not everywhere.


eudaimonia,

Mark

Eudaimonist said:

Strangely, I've never seen this happen where I have lived in the States, or in Sweden either. I guess it does happen, but not everywhere.


eudaimonia,

Mark

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Yes well, I think Trick-or-Treating is only a relatively recent phenomenon in the UK. I remember when I was young, people having Hallowe'en parties, but not going door to door, so it perhaps developed a bit differently from in the US.
BTW the pic in your sig nearly gave me a turn LOL - thought for a minute you were THE FONZ!!! Then I realised your name is Mark not Henry

Where I lived in South Carolina if you owned a cat and it was black or had any black fur on it you want to keep it indoors for basically the whole month and a half. When you live out in the sticks you get a lot of bored teenagers who think it's cool to "sacrifice" kitty as a halloween prank. I remember this happening two years in a row and I only lived there for seven years.

But for the most part here where I live in Florida we have a lot of church functions in place of traditional trick or treating because well people are less trusting now about taking candy from strangers or going up to their door. There are a lot of retirees who just don't do the candy thing anymore because they already did their part with their own kids.

LyraJean said:

Where I lived in South Carolina if you owned a cat and it was black or had any black fur on it you want to keep it indoors for basically the whole month and a half. When you live out in the sticks you get a lot of bored teenagers who think it's cool to "sacrifice" kitty as a halloween prank. I remember this happening two years in a row and I only lived there for seven years.

But for the most part here where I live in Florida we have a lot of church functions in place of traditional trick or treating because well people are less trusting now about taking candy from strangers or going up to their door. There are a lot of retirees who just don't do the candy thing anymore because they already did their part with their own kids.

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Sad. I see the same things here in Los Angeles. So few kids out that I can answer the door with the dogs beside me.

But I have seen good things, older siblings or cousins going out with their younger relatives and actually enjoying the experience. It is hard to stamp out childhood innocence and joy.

onemorequestion said:

I don't do "Good Friday." I am not a Roman Catholic either. It's just as bad as what those pacific islanders do with their recreations of the crucifixion by impaling themselves on a cross. It is rather antithetical to what the Apostles taught us.

But to compare the reverence we have for Jesus going to the Cross as the propitiation of our sins is a far cry from what happens at 21st century Halloween festivities.

Halloween celebrates violence and murder (demonic as well as human) in a way that is inescapable. Just a tour of the movies that run during this time of year says it all. You would think that there would be a secular opposition to this celebration and depiction of intense violence seeing how intensely violent our secular culture has become over the last 40-years.

But then again Jesus did use the phrase "For those who eyes and ears let them see and hear . . ."

It's clear what he meant. All too clear.

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Films are fiction. And horror films are just an extreme form of fiction. I see them as being a modern form of catharsis through drama, wherein the viewer experiences hightened emotions of pity and terror and is thereby purged of them-
Catharsis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
'Feel-good' films, like rom-coms, have a similar effect- with different emotions of course.

Horror films are often released around Halloween because that's a time of year when people are more interested in being recreationally scared. And that's all it is- recreational.
Many horror films have a supernatural element- like The Blair Witch Project or the Nightmare on Elm Street films, or the danger comes from something technically human but so far removed from day to day life that it might as well be supernatural- Descent, 28 Days Later.

The films aren't real. They are made-up stories that are intended to provoke feelings of pity and terror. They aren't everyone's cup of tea, but they also aren't celebrations of death and violence. They are safe, but scary, depictions of the same.

tansy said:

One thing that IS a pain about Hallowe'en, whatever one's views on it, is that some kids see it as an excuse to chuck flower and eggs at people's windows and doors and be generally obnoxious. Elderly or infirm people can feel particularly vulnerable, especially when kids come to the door wearing masks and you can't tell who they are.
The problem got so bad that shopkeepers now won't sell flour or eggs to people under a certain age around that time of year..and I think even the police have had to get involved to an extent. And when they're basically just coming round in order to get sweets and money it doesn't seem particularly productive.
A bit different with say carol-singing. The kids may only be doing it for money, but at least they do do a bit of singing to get it.

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It used to be that children did have to do a bit of an act to get the money/sweets for Halloween- it's called 'guising'
Trick-or-treating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hairy Tic said:

## Hence the name -

Halloween < [All] Hallows' Even < eve of [the Feast of] All Saints (on November 1st); AKA the Vigil of the Feast of All Saints. Which is a collective Feast for all those Saints known to God alone.

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The festival of Samhain pre-dates the creation of the Feast of All Saints, which itself wasn't always on the 1st of November- in many cases, it still isn't.
All Saints - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Samhain was, in many ways, a festival of the dead, which might explain why All Saints Day was moved to then from May- to combine the Christian festival of (dead) saints with the Celtic festival. Very sucessfully, as it's turned out- the older festival in now commonly known by where it stands in relation to the newer one.
Samhain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why do us christians make such a fuss about Halloween?


"We" not "us". Sorry.

I never understood this either.
Honestly just don't have your child dressing like a demon or witch if there's an issue.
I think one year I did an Angel (XD)

Archer93 said:

It used to be that children did have to do a bit of an act to get the money/sweets for Halloween- it's called 'guising'
Trick-or-treating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Well, that's interesting, thanks...I didn't know that

GrowingSmaller said:

Why do us christians make such a fuss about Halloween?


"We" not "us". Sorry.

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Tut! Yes..you must get your grammar right

LyraJean said:

Where I lived in South Carolina if you owned a cat and it was black or had any black fur on it you want to keep it indoors for basically the whole month and a half. When you live out in the sticks you get a lot of bored teenagers who think it's cool to "sacrifice" kitty as a halloween prank. I remember this happening two years in a row and I only lived there for seven years.

But for the most part here where I live in Florida we have a lot of church functions in place of traditional trick or treating because well people are less trusting now about taking candy from strangers or going up to their door. There are a lot of retirees who just don't do the candy thing anymore because they already did their part with their own kids.

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That's ghastly (the cat thing, I mean). A lot of churches in UK do their own parties as well, but with a different emphasis.