Angle: Muslim law taking hold in some US Cities

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No, they are not. Not everyone who is declared an Apostate used to be a Muslim. I would be declared an Apostate in Islam, because I'm a Muslim in the United States Army; an Army that is currently seen as invaders fighting the Mujahideen. Apostates' are declared enemies of Islam, not simply ex Muslims.


Oh my goodness now I'm really confused,because your posts have proven that you most certainly are a supporter ,not an enemy, of Islam AND Sharia law,yet you claim you would be considered an Apostate!
Seems to me that you don't even fit your own definitions!
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So are you claiming that all those news reports and videos of Muslims DEMANDING Sharia law in the UK and other countries are all lies and the videos are STAGED/FAKED? :confused::scratch: :doh:

Plus you are accusing Nonie Darwish, Brigette Gabriel,Wahlid Shoebat, Ibbin Waraq,
Bilquis Sheikh and all these who are proud to be called Apostates against Islam, LIARS?

Because they ALL warn that is the EXACT goal of Islam and establishing a worldwide caliphate!

http://www.apostatesofislam.com/apostates.htm


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Wahlid Shoebat is a well-known liar. I am unfamiliar with the others.
 
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Wahlid Shoebat is a well-known liar. I am unfamiliar with the others.

And your proof? And how can you possibly know who he is but not know who Nonie Darwish and Brigette Gabriel are?

I don't believe any thinking person should believe anything the Terrorist front organization CAIR has to say about any Apostate! If their info is what you base your claim on.

Ibn Warraq

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Critics of CAIR, including six members of the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate,[52][75][76] have alleged ties between the CAIR founders and Hamas. The founders, Omar Ahmad and Nihad Awad, had earlier been officers of the Islamic Association of Palestine (IAP), described by a former FBI analyst and Treasury Department intelligence official as "intimately tied to the most senior Hamas leadership."[77] Both Ahmad and Awad participated in a meeting held in Philadelphia on October 3, 1993, that involved senior leaders of Hamas, the Holy Land Foundation, and the IAP.[78][79][80] Based on electronic surveillance of the meeting, the FBI reported that “the participants went to great length and spent much effort hiding their association with the Islamic Resistance Movement [Hamas]."[81] Participants at the meeting discussed forming a "political organization and public relations” body, “whose Islamic hue is not very conspicuous."[82]
Critics[who?] also point to a July 1994 meeting identifying CAIR as one of the four U.S. organizations comprising the working organizations of the Palestine Committee of the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood, the parent organization and supporter of Hamas.[83][84] At a 1994 meeting at Barry University, Awad said that he was "in support of the Hamas movement". CAIR has responded by noting that Hamas was only designated a terrorist organization in January 1995 and did not commit its first wave of suicide bombings until late 1994, after Awad made the comment.[85][86]
Daniel Pipes and investigative reporter Steven Emerson accuse CAIR of being a front for Hamas, having ties to terrorism, as well as "offering a platform to conspiratorial Israel-bashers." The Anti-Defamation League and Emerson have also accused CAIR of having a long record of propagating antisemitic propaganda.[87][88][89][90][91] Journalist Jake Tapper criticizes CAIR for refusing to condemn specifically Osama bin Laden and Islamic extremism, but rather making only vague and generic criticisms.[92]
Pipes has accused CAIR of demanding that a billboard declaring Osama bin Laden "the sworn enemy" be brought down in 1998 as "offensive to Moslems", denying bin Laden's responsibility for the Africa embassy bombings, calling the conviction of the 1993 World Trade Center bombers "a travesty of justice," calling the conviction of the blind Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman a "hate crime", calling the extradition order of suspected Hamas terrorist Mousa Mohammed Abu Marzook "anti-Islamic", calling President Bush's closing of the Holy Land Foundation for collecting money used to support Hamas "unjust" and "disturbing", praising and defending convicted murderer H. Rap Brown as well as convicted attempted murderer Adnan Chaudhry, and their LA office head calling Israelis "zionazis"; he also quotes the FBI's former chief of counterterrorism Steven Pomerantz saying that CAIR "effectively" gives aid to international terrorist groups.[93]
CAIR has also raised suspicions by raising its annual budget of around $3 million (as of 2007) in part through large donations from people and foundations identified with Arab governments.[94] And some Muslims criticize CAIR for being overly conservative from a religious standpoint, for example by taking the disputed position that all Moslem women are required to veil their hair.[94]
Neuroscientist and best selling author Sam Harris, noted mainly for his contribution to the New Atheism movement, criticized CAIR by doubting their legitimacy saying CAIR is "an Islamist public relations firm posing as a civil-rights lobby".[95]


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Imagine the United States or the UK trying to establish a Christian nation, but there's constant disagreement between Protestants and Catholics and the other denominations within Christianity.

No need to imagine that, my friend -- look at Republican politics for the last 30 years.
 
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Oh my goodness now I'm really confused,because your posts have proven that you most certainly are a supporter ,not an enemy, of Islam AND Sharia law,yet you claim you would be considered an Apostate!
Seems to me that you don't even fit your own definitions! :confused::scratch:
Am I supportive of Islam? Yes, because I'm a Muslim. It really doesn't take an astrophysics degree to see that I am supportive of my own religion. Are you supportive of Christianity, since you claim it as your religion?

Do you consider those Christians who are for abortion rights, gay marriage and universal health care to be true Christians?
 
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Am I supportive of Islam? Yes, because I'm a Muslim. It really doesn't take an astrophysics degree to see that I am supportive of my own religion. Are you supportive of Christianity, since you claim it as your religion?

Do you consider those Christians who are for abortion rights, gay marriage and universal health care to be true Christians?


Of course not but you will not find any post from me anywhere on this entire site where I do,but there are posts by you condoning Sharia Law and other questionable Islamist views.
 
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A pity, really, that she sees no legal, social, or spiritual recourse -- nothing at all to protect her from the oncoming Muslim Horde.


Actually I most certainly do!
God is my salvation,and I don't mean through the actions of fringe groups of wackos who claim to be acting in His behalf.
 
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Of course not but you will not find any post from me anywhere on this entire site where I do,but there are posts by you condoning Sharia Law and other questionable Islamist views.
As usual, this thread has gotten derailed by your fixation and obsession with me. Please can we move back to what the thread is all about please?
 
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Angle is an idiot who is trying to use fearmongering to win.
Ringo

Fear mongering, scare tactics, half-truths, and flat out lies seem to be all the Republican party has to offer these days.
 
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Unfortunate for America, since the same people who have refused to do anything for the past two years are the ones who are positioned to retake a sizeable portion of Congress.
Ringo
 
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Of course not but you will not find any post from me anywhere on this entire site where I do

OK, I can see abortion rights and gay marriage as issues that might make someone not a True Christian based on scripture, but how the heck does universal health care work itself in to making someone not a True Christian? Disagreeing with it on a political basis, sure, but how is it unChristian?
 
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Is there any proof of this,Beside someone saying so,.So they could get elected.I would be very concern if this was happening.I know a few Muslims,They very nice to me,But they told me some of there belief,I say I want no part in there rules,Atleast the few I met.That's one of the reason,I'm comepletely for religion being out of the picture,When it comes to politics and school,Or what we have to follow.
 
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Is there any proof of this,Beside someone saying so,.So they could get elected.I would be very concern if this was happening.I know a few Muslims,They very nice to me,But they told me some of there belief,I say I want no part in there rules,Atleast the few I met.That's one of the reason,I'm comepletely for religion being out of the picture,When it comes to politics and school,Or what we have to follow.
There is no proof whatsoever. She's referring to Dearborn, Michigan which is the only small town I know of that's predominately Muslim. Muslims make up less than 2% of the total population of the United States, so I seriously doubt Shari'a law is going to be implemented on a wide scale here.
 
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I was up there in MI recently. I did not see any Sha'ria law implemented. I think someone's LYING!!!

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Btw, never heard of this Angle person. I just read up on her. I am scared that she may become a US Senator. She seems like a nut job, and some of her positions makes no sense to me (introducing legislation that requires all doctors to LIE to their patients seeking abortions that there's a link between cancer and abortions?!) What an idiot.
 
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Sadly, At least what I read, They do not show how the person believes
Muslim laws are being enforced or have been passed.

First, If a citizen of these United States petitions thier representitive,
the Representitive can consider it as a law. Anyone, not just 10th generation Americans or better.

So if enough Muslims gather together they can get a law passed. Much the same as any other nationality(once they are legal citizens) or religious person can.

SO unless a law has been passed illegally then nothing is amiss. I seriously doubt that a law could be passed for long that did not follow every point of law.

I support people's right to protest against Sharia law, to rally against it.
But if the law passes it will be law(until S.Court rules otherwise.) But for it to pass, it would have to have support of the people or it will be repealed after the people replace their leaders.
Once a person becomes a citizen they can ask for any law in the world they want, it is up to the process to keep the bad laws from coming in.

I do believe there are some that want Sharia law, or a portion of it in the USA.(and other countries.) If they follow the law to create a new law, then nothing is wrong. Our goverment has done as it is suppose too.

Don't trust them?(*who ever they is) then Get involved . They(*) can't get away with anything, if you are involved. They(*) will never get away with things if we are involved. Or is it easy to be paranoid then it is to be informed?
 
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Not only is there no sharia law in Frankford, Texas, there's no city or town named Frankford in Texas. There is a Dearborn, Michigan, but the mayor insists that the idea that sharia law has taken hold there is a lie.

The woman is a looney-tune who will say anything.
 
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