the consequences of finding the kingdom

Mr Sinclair · Sep 10, 2010

Hello brothers and sisters,
What are the consequences of finding the kingdom on earth?
If u dont know what this mean, please dont ask.
I know a little about it either.

DrFrank · Sep 10, 2010

God's Kingdom will not be established until Jesus returns in the "Second Coming".Be patient,JUST A FEW MORE YEARS! Until then we must continue to live in Satan's kingdom on earth.

Mr Sinclair · Sep 10, 2010

My internet teacher who is very deep religious, told me u can find it.
Your body is here, but u are up there.
Matthew 6:33
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

He told me being compleety reborn, a new divine creature.
This made me anxious

visionary · Sep 10, 2010

God's kingdom is laid out in the sand.. study the manual..

Hebrews 8:5
Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

whatfor · Sep 10, 2010

The kingdom of God is here.

Mr Sinclair · Sep 10, 2010

This is an real eye opener guys, thanks.
Because I am new in christianity.
I am waiting for some more time, if there maybe more deep religious people here.
I still dont believe that my teacher is a liar, i mean everything he told me was true..

visionary · Sep 10, 2010

Mr Sinclair said:
My internet teacher who is very deep religious, told me u can find it.
Your body is here, but u are up there.
Matthew 6:33
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

He told me being compleety reborn, a new divine creature.
This made me anxious

Ask and it shall be given.. seek and ye shall find..

Mr Sinclair · Sep 10, 2010

visionary said:
Ask and it shall be given.. seek and ye shall find..

hmmm, thats the same answer my teacher gives me..
Is this a secret or something :S lol
Edit: Its ok, dont need to reply. I get it now.

visionary · Sep 10, 2010

Mr Sinclair said:
hmmm, thats the same answer my teacher gives me..
Is this a secret or something :S lol
Edit: Its ok, dont need to reply. I get it now.

Yeah.. it is all found in a real live experience with Him.. Take Rev 3:20 as a promise, put your finger on that verse and ask Him to be that real to you... He will have to prepare you for such a meeting with Him, whom is Holy.. and overwhelmingly so... :bow:

razeontherock · Sep 11, 2010

Mr Sinclair said:
Hello brothers and sisters,
What are the consequences of finding the kingdom on earth?

Welcome to the most challenging and rewarding task you will ever encounter!

You can find the Kingdom in this lifetime, and live in it, with satan under your feet. (Just don't get the bighead about it, thinking he can't touch you. Dangerous territory there!)

Jesus came preaching "repent, for the Kingdom of G-d is at hand." In other words, WITHIN REACH. You CAN do this!!

In one way or another, almost everything in Christianity seems like some sort of paradox. (Until we get our carnal mind out of the way and our flesh under subjection that is) You won't find the Kingdom "on earth." As you (sorta) said, the Father has "raised [us] up together, and made [us] sit together in heavenly [places] in Christ Jesus"

The Kingdom is with Him. Our life is with Him, hidden, in G-d. (Colossians 3:3)

His ways are past finding out, but it NEVER says they are mysterious. Gold is a type of His ways, and He will reveal them:

"Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: Revelation 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich"

He makes it a priority, you might say!

"All the words of my mouth [are] in righteousness; [there is] nothing froward or perverse in them. Proverbs 8:9 They [are] all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge. Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.

Proverbs 8:19 My fruit [is] better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.

Citizen of the Kingdom · Sep 11, 2010

The Laodocean quote is very appropriate. Some see the Kingdom from one point of view, others from another. It all depends from where you look at it. Jesus (from the heavenlies) said, the last church didn't know it's poverty but in the recieving of His instruction they were made rich. Eye salve for the eyes, gold for the walk and linin for the covering is needed, yet most say they have all they need. No searching, no findy. ;-) Things aren't added when no need is the norm. The consequences of finding the Kingdom on earth is a muture, balanced outlook.

razeontherock · Sep 11, 2010

More consequences:

Daniel 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do [exploits]."

So here are two words that we usually expect to be negative - exploits and consequences. Not inherently negative at all from G-d's POV!

verses · Sep 11, 2010

razeontherock said:
More consequences:

Daniel 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do [exploits]."

So here are two words that we usually expect to be negative - exploits and consequences. Not inherently negative at all from G-d's POV!

It says the people that know God will be strong and the wicked corrupt. Your saying something different.

Mr Sinclair · Sep 11, 2010

razeontherock said:
Welcome to the most challenging and rewarding task you will ever encounter!

You can find the Kingdom in this lifetime, and live in it, with satan under your feet. (Just don't get the bighead about it, thinking he can't touch you. Dangerous territory there!)

Jesus came preaching "repent, for the Kingdom of G-d is at hand." In other words, WITHIN REACH. You CAN do this!!

In one way or another, almost everything in Christianity seems like some sort of paradox. (Until we get our carnal mind out of the way and our flesh under subjection that is) You won't find the Kingdom "on earth." As you (sorta) said, the Father has "raised [us] up together, and made [us] sit together in heavenly [places] in Christ Jesus"

The Kingdom is with Him. Our life is with Him, hidden, in G-d. (Colossians 3:3)

His ways are past finding out, but it NEVER says they are mysterious. Gold is a type of His ways, and He will reveal them:

"Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: Revelation 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich"

He makes it a priority, you might say!

"All the words of my mouth [are] in righteousness; [there is] nothing froward or perverse in them. Proverbs 8:9 They [are] all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge. Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.

Proverbs 8:19 My fruit [is] better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.

Thanks allot brother.
What great knowlegde u posses.
Its funny, that alot of things I didnt readed. I do know, thanks to jesus and the holy spirit.
This would probally take years, but ill make it my mission.
I have still so much to learn.
Even IF the consequence are high, I will take the sacrfice.
Even tho,I dont espect negative consequences because god only contains goodness and greatness.
The only consequences that ill probally will be getting, is that I wont function good in this world anymore.
But I dont care
Thats the mistake I made when I created this thread.
Peace brother, thanks for helping me

Janet842 · Sep 11, 2010

Mr Sinclair said:
Even tho,I dont espect negative consequences because god only contains goodness and greatness.
The only consequences that ill probally will be getting, is that I wont function good in this world anymore.

Please don't be surprised when trials and tests come to you. None of us enter the kingdom without being transformed into the likeness of Christ. That transformation doesn't happen instantly in the moment we accept Christ as Lord. For most of us it takes a lifetime and it's a difficult journey.

Please read 1 Peter 1:3-25 (too much to insert here). We will suffer grief in all kinds of trials which come to us that our faith may be proved genuine and may result in praise, glory and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed.

Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is his good, pleasing and perfect will. Romans 12:2

And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the Lord's glory, are being transformed into his likeness with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit. 2 Corinthians 3:18

razeontherock · Sep 11, 2010

And Sinclair? Salvation will make you function BETTER. That's what that passage in Daniel is about! And ... he should know ^_^

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