Should wives be free to choose to not have children?

Tough one. All I can say is, this goes both ways...whichever way it goes
And if she says no now, and you get OK with that, then she turns mid/late 30s and starts in she wants one and you dont.....tough them cookies

FallenPaladin said:

I try to live my life in God's will. Part of that is giving God providence over things. It seems like grasping for control in the area of having children, or any other area, would be just cause for God to withdraw his blessing in that area of our lives.

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So, please turn that into how you would use actions to govern it. Does that mean that disagreeing with your wife has God withdrawing blessings, regardless which opinion you take?

I agree with your general statement but it sounds (my reading comprehension so correct me please) like go along to get along

having Children should be the choice of BOTH parents, not one or the other.

Key said:

having Children should be the choice of BOTH parents, not one or the other.

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Precisely.

Key said:

having Children should be the choice of BOTH parents, not one or the other.

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Agreed, the default should be NO, if one is against, its fair to the kids.

Its why I asked for clarification on the comment he made, because it seemed to say that later even if he didnt want and she did, to deny would be to withdraw Gods blessing

I would hope that such a question would be dealt with before marriage.

NO a WIFE alone should not unilatterally, by herself, be able to make that decision. Neither should the man alone make the decision either.

There's nothing wrong with choosing not to have kids, but that's one of the biggies you're supposed to decide before you marry.

Couples should be free to decide not have children. Its not a unilateral decision.

FallenPaladin said:

The default should be yes. To say no, is to say no to God's will by making the decision yourself. God is the third part of every marriage. People forget that.

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Guess you shouldn't make the decision to seek medical care if you become ill then, either. Don't want to take the decision of whether or not you recover out of God's hands.

In fact NO ONE had the "right " to have a child..IMHO....IF two willing partners decide they want one???..Then its a gift NOT a "right".

Children arent "property" or "rights"..

Love

Dallas

Well, it is her body that will be carrying the child for 9 months, and if the couple is following typical conservative Biblical ideals she will also be the one in charge of taking care of the child. I think it definitely is her choice.

dinonum said:

Well, it is her body that will be carrying the child for 9 months, and if the couple is following typical conservative Biblical ideals she will also be the one in charge of taking care of the child. I think it definitely is her choice.

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Lets put it this way..NO man should be able to tell her she is going to have one whether she likes it or not.

Talk about rights..Its barbaric to suggest otherwise..

Love

Dallas

FallenPaladin said:

Most illnesses we get come from living and working and playing the way we do which isn't natural at all.

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Bull crap...We all die honey..Its natural to get sick and die..What keeps us alive longer is medical intervention..knowledge of body..and we STILL die..eventually..

Love

dallas

FallenPaladin said:

Most illnesses we get come from living and working and playing the way we do which isn't natural at all.

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My grandmother is NINETY SEVEN..Trust me she is a good Christian..but she is alive today from the aids of medications..Her "illnesses" is that her heart got old..she is BLIND ...she cant hear very well..

She has a bulging artery in her descending aorta..Its not her lifetsyle..Her body is giving out..The doctors are keeping her alive..

So dont talk about "most illnesses"..and "lifestyle"..thats pompous..

Love

Dallas

FallenPaladin said:

Most illnesses we get come from living and working and playing the way we do which isn't natural at all.

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Actually illness and disease are natural things, it doesn't matter how we get them.