Burning the Qu'ran: A Bad Idea

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Jesus replied and said, "A man was going down from Washington D.C. to New York, and fell among robbers, and they stripped him and beat him, and went away leaving him half dead.
31 "And by chance a priest was going down on that road, and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.
32 "Likewise an evangelical also, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side.
33 "But a Muslim, who was on a journey, came upon him; and when he saw him, he felt compassion,
34 and came to him and bandaged up his wounds, pouring oil and wine on them; and he put him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn and took care of him.
35 "On the next day he took out two hundred dollars and gave them to the innkeeper and said, 'Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, when I return I will repay you.'
36 "Which of these three do you think proved to be a neighbor to the man who fell into the robbers' hands?"
37 And he said, "The one who showed mercy toward him." Then Jesus said to him, "Go and do the same."


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It is exactly what God is going to do to the muslim hordes that invade Israel and it is imminent!

Ezek 38:
Persia = Iran...MUSLIM!
Libya = Libya...MUSLIM!
Ethiopia = Ethiopia...MUSLIM!
Togarmah = Turkey....MUSLIM!

Psalm 83:
Edom and Moab and Ammon = Jordan....MUSLIM!
Philistines = Palestinians....MUSLIM!
Tyre = Lebanon...MUSLIM!
Gebal = Lebanon...MUSLIM!

Isaiah 17:
Damascus = Syria...MUSLIM!

ditto.
 
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Since one individual has already started a thread on this forum enumerating the reasons why burning the Qu'ran is a good idea, I feel compelled to start a thread expressing the exact opposite viewpoint. It is a bad idea to burn the Qu'ran on 9/11, and I think that the church that's doing this is doing it for very selfish reasons - i.e., an "attention-grab." I personally feel that this sort of behavior is ridiculous.

It's really very simple: If you don't like Islam, then go ahead and speak out against it. Nothing wrong with that. However, burning a Qu'ran is going too far.

Nonetheless, it is true that certain individuals in other countries routinely engage in this sort of violent, lawless behavior with respect to the U.S. and Christianity in general. These are the types of people you want to avoid.

Here is some troubling history from this church:

"Also in 2009, members of the church sent their children to the new school year with t-shirts saying on the front "Jesus answered I am the way and the truth and the life; no one goes to the Father except through me. I stand in trust with Dove Outreach Center." and on the back "Islam is of the Devil". The incident resulted in a 10-year-old being sent home from Talbot Elementary on August 24, and, on the 25, Eastside High students and one Gainesville High student being sent home and a student at Westwood Middle having to change clothes because of the shirt."

They also protested in Columbus, OH, which is where I live (which I was actually unaware of until I read the article).


"Westboro protesters, who were carrying signs saying “God hates Israel” and “Bloody Obama,” stood with signs outside Trinity United and UF Hillel. They arrived at each location and, amid cheers from counter protesters, left close to times specified by a picketing schedule posted online by the church.
At the entrance to Trinity United off of Northwest 53rd Avenue, the Westboro group also was joined by about 30 members of the Dove World Outreach Center, said Gainesville police monitoring the protest. Many were wearing the shirt with the words “Islam is of the Devil,” the same words on a sign that members had posted outside their church in July of 2009."

Any group that would join Westboro Baptist Church in a protest needs to be avoided.

I would suggest to you that whether one thinks this book burning to be good or bad, the consequences will be be unavoidable. The Great Tribulation is at hand.
 
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I would suggest to you that whether one thinks this book burning to be good or bad, the consequences will be be unavoidable. The Great Tribulation is at hand.

Depending on how much it spreads and to what extent, it could lead to Gog/Magog.

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Nope, just plain wrong.

Do you own a koran? Burn it in your backyard - nobody will know :D but you and God. I personally refuse to read it. And the book of Mormon. The Mormons at least don't threaten to blow me up. I think as alternative, ripping it up and throwing in the trash is just as good... like cutting up a credit card.

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It is a free country, so if that's what you wish to do that's fine. But broadcasting this burning all over the world is an extremely bad idea that's going to get people killed. I certainly hope this doesn't cause any bloodshed.

Mainstream news outlets will no doubt broadcast it because that's the kind of moronic thing they like to do.
 
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Mainstream news outlets will no doubt broadcast it because that's the kind of moronic thing they like to do.

So what if they do broadcast it? I hope they do! I hope the entire world sees that SOME people are not going to bow and submit to Islam!

Anyone who lives in fear of Islamic retribution because someone burns their "holy book", which is about as holy as toilet paper, has ALREADY submitted themselves to ISLAM!

Wake up, people!
 
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So what if they do broadcast it? I hope they do! I hope the entire world sees that SOME people are not going to bow and submit to Islam!

Anyone who lives in fear of Islamic retribution because someone burns their "holy book", which is about as holy as toilet paper, has ALREADY submitted themselves to ISLAM!

Wake up, people!

Practically everyone in this thread disagrees with you Jen and it's not because everyone else here is "asleep" as you put it. It's because we, as Christians, are called to love and to live in peace with others. You're a prophet of hate, as bad as those Westboro "Baptists".
 
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Practically everyone in this thread disagrees with you Jen and it's not because everyone else here is "asleep" as you put it. It's because we, as Christians, are called to love and to live in peace with others.

Do you understand that Islam is ANTI-CHRIST? Do you understand that Islam stands in direct opposition to the God of Israel? Do you understand that God will OBLITERATE Islam in the very near future?

If you rise in DEFENSE of Islam, fearing Islam, you are serving a FALSE GOD!

Fear God alone! Choose this day whom you serve!

You're a prophet of hate, as bad as those Westboro "Baptists".
Who?
 
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Do you understand that Islam is ANTI-CHRIST? Do you understand that Islam stands in direct opposition to the God of Israel? Do you understand that God will OBLITERATE Islam in the very near future?

If you rise in DEFENSE of Islam, fearing Islam, you are serving a FALSE GOD!

Fear God alone! Choose this day whom you serve!

So because I disagree with the burning of Qurans I'm defending Islam? What on earth goes on in that head of yours? I'm not, and have not been, defending Islam. I don't like Islam. It's a cruel and backward religion and their "holy book" preaches violence against Jews, Christians and unbelievers.

I guess there's just no middle ground with you though, is there? My believing this Quran burning serves no purpose but to make Christians look like idiot bigots must obviously mean I'm in league with the devil.


You haven't heard of Westboro Baptist Church? Give them a google. They're a bunch of fundie extremists who's basic message is that God hates everyone and spends eternity thinking of new ways to punish us.
 
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Do you understand that Islam is ANTI-CHRIST? Do you understand that Islam stands in direct opposition to the God of Israel? Do you understand that God will OBLITERATE Islam in the very near future?

If you rise in DEFENSE of Islam, fearing Islam, you are serving a FALSE GOD!

Fear God alone! Choose this day whom you serve!

Who?

Jesus treated pagans and tax collectors with kindness, and dined with them, remember this. He was not supporting their pagan Gods or their worship of money.
 
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So what if they do broadcast it? I hope they do! I hope the entire world sees that SOME people are not going to bow and submit to Islam!
And what happens if militant Muslims retaliate and kill people in response. Will that ridiculous "message" have been worth it?

Anyone who lives in fear of Islamic retribution because someone burns their "holy book", which is about as holy as toilet paper, has ALREADY submitted themselves to ISLAM! Wake up, people!
Wow, how very brave of you to make such a proclamation, Jen. How courageous, sitting thousands of miles away from any potential retaliation and egging on the kind of actions that could needlessly spill the blood of innocent men and women who live in hostile lands.

You really want to take a stand, Jen? How about you get on a plane to Afghanistan and burn some Korans in a public setting in Kabal. Show those Muslims that you aren't afraid of them. That way not only will you truly show the whole world that you won't submit to Islam, you, and only you, will bear the responsibilities (and the consequences) of your actions. But no, you won't do that; instead, you will sit comfortably in front of your computer monitor, crowing incessantly about taking a stand, while cheering on Koran burners costs you to sacrifice absolutely NOTHING. Such acts may have devastating consequences for people on the other side of the world, and the actions of the Gainesville Church may cause those people to sacrifice everything.

So how about YOU wake up for a change, Jen, and realize that merely typing posts about "standing" against Islam is absolutely hollow when you're not the one standing in harms way and you don't have to suffer the consequences for the actions of that Gainesville Church. You go live in Afhganastan and burn Korans, and then you will truly be able to say that you've "stood" for God against a false religion. Otherwise, you're admonishments are nothing more than the empty words of one who lets others pay the price for her actions.

In Christ,

Acts6:5
 
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And what happens if militant Muslims retaliate and kill people in response. Will that ridiculous "message" have been worth it?


Wow, how very brave of you to make such a proclamation, Jen. How courageous, sitting thousands of miles away from any potential retaliation and egging on the kind of actions that could needlessly spill the blood of innocent men and women who live in hostile lands.

You really want to take a stand, Jen? How about you get on a plane to Afghanistan and burn some Korans in a public setting in Kabal. Show those Muslims that you aren't afraid of them. That way not only will you truly show the whole world that you won't submit to Islam, you, and only you, will bear the responsibilities (and the consequences) of your actions. But no, you won't do that; instead, you will sit comfortably in front of your computer monitor, crowing incessantly about taking a stand, while cheering on Koran burners costs you to sacrifice absolutely NOTHING. Such acts may have devastating consequences for people on the other side of the world, and the actions of the Gainesville Church may cause those people to sacrifice everything.

So how about YOU wake up for a change, Jen, and realize that merely typing posts about "standing" against Islam is absolutely hollow when you're not the one standing in harms way and you don't have to suffer the consequences for the actions of that Gainesville Church. You go live in Afhganastan and burn Korans, and then you will truly be able to say that you've "stood" for God against a false religion. Otherwise, you're admonishments are nothing more than the empty words of one who lets others pay the price for her actions.

In Christ,

Acts6:5

THAT's the POINT, Acts! We don't want it HERE! Islam can't have America! THAT's the point of burning the Quran!

I will burn every Quran that comes across my path or else wipe my butt with it!

I do not fear the little god of Islam. I fear the God of Israel!

If a murderer goes on a rampage, whose fault is it? Who is responsible? Is the murderer somehow unable to control his actions?
 
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THAT's the POINT, Acts! We don't want it HERE! Islam can't have America! THAT's the point of burning the Quran!

I will burn every Quran that comes across my path or else wipe my butt with it!

I do not fear the little god of Islam. I fear the God of Israel!

If a murderer goes on a rampage, whose fault is it? Who is responsible? Is the murderer somehow unable to control his actions?

See Sig.
 
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The God of the Universe told me not to serve other gods, pgpprotector, or bow to them...and there YOU sit, telling me to LOVE them as my neighbor!

It's almost as if you think God loves the devil/allah.
 
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And what happens if militant Muslims retaliate and kill people in response. Will that ridiculous "message" have been worth it?
Exactly the question which needs to be asked ...

As a child, it was always my responsibility to avoid doing anything which provoked my alcoholic father. Only thing is, he still found a way to be provoked. It didn't really matter how careful I was walking around the eggshells ...

It was only when I was nearly thirty years old and attending Al-anon meetings that I came to realize that I wasn't responsible for my father's behavior, his choices, his rampages, whatever ...

He was.

I would submit to you that our dancing on eggshells around the matter of the Quran makes little or no difference. If anything, history suggests otherwise. Evidence indicates that submission to an aggressor is not the best course of action.

Just look at airline hijackings. Oops ..., maybe that's a bad example Acts 6:5?
 
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