once a cheat always a cheat???

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so what do i think...

a guy goes out with a girl... cheats on her...
do u think he is likly to cheat again?

or how bout another situation

a guy goes out with a girl, cheats on her.. then starts going out with the new girl (after he has broken up with the first) how likely do u think it would be that he would cheat on the new girl?


(i have posted this in the singles but want to know what the people who are in couples think)
 

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To say that someone who has cheated once will always cheat again is to deny the possiblity that people might change.

And that I find to be very strange statement comming from Christians whom the very basis of the Christian faith is that people can change.

The statement is completely incompatable with the Christian faith.
 
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To say that someone who has cheated once will always cheat again is to deny the possiblity that people might change.

And that I find to be very strange statement comming from Christians whom the very basis of the Christian faith is that people can change.

The statement is completely incompatable with the Christian faith.
As always, well said, Luther.
 
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To say that someone who has cheated once will always cheat again is to deny the possiblity that people might change.

And that I find to be very strange statement comming from Christians whom the very basis of the Christian faith is that people can change.

The statement is completely incompatable with the Christian faith.


they will keep on cheating, unless they truly repent.
sure they 'might' change on their own,
but love is a high stakes game.
If your wife/girlfriend/significant other cheated on you,
and then said 'I might change'
Is that good enough?

if someone goes to the casino, and tells the workers there 'I might pay up my losses', do you think the casino will be happy?


You find it strange, I find it the truth.
Only when there is true repentance can there be true change.
That is completely compatiable with the christian faith.
 
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they will keep on cheating, unless they truly repent.
sure they 'might' change on their own,
but love is a high stakes game.
If your wife/girlfriend/significant other cheated on you,
and then said 'I might change'
Is that good enough?

if someone goes to the casino, and tells the workers there 'I might pay up my losses', do you think the casino will be happy?


You find it strange, I find it the truth.
Only when there is true repentance can there be true change.
That is completely compatiable with the christian faith.

The statement is "once a cheat, always a cheat." I'm not saying that anyone should stay with someone who's cheated on them. I'm not saying that you necessarily even have to be open to someone who's cheated in the past.

But I think its imcompatable with the Christian faith to presume they always will continue cheating.

As for repentance, its impossible for humans to absolutly determine if repentance is true or false. So I don't even entertain the question and leave it up to God.

I just don't like calling anything once. . . therefore always. That isn't Christian logic.
 
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The statement is "once a cheat, always a cheat." I'm not saying that anyone should stay with someone who's cheated on them. I'm not saying that you necessarily even have to be open to someone who's cheated in the past.

But I think its imcompatable with the Christian faith to presume they always will continue cheating.

Whilst I can understand where you are coming from, and I do agree with that trail of thought, but only to a certain degree.

Is it imcompatable with the christian faith to presume a sinner will keep sinning?

We are all sinners and will continue to sin.
We have all fallen short of the glory of God.

it is not whether they will always continue cheating as it is so much that they will cheat again, once they have done so.


As for repentance, its impossible for humans to absolutly determine if repentance is true or false. So I don't even entertain the question and leave it up to God.

Yes but that is not my point.

The point was that someone will only change when there has been true repentence. Not when someone can identify when, or if that has occured.


I just don't like calling anything once. . . therefore always. That isn't Christian logic.

Christian logic?
What is christian logic?

Is it a form of logic that differs from other sorts of logic?
 
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Whilst I can understand where you are coming from, and I do agree with that trail of thought, but only to a certain degree.

Is it imcompatable with the christian faith to presume a sinner will keep sinning?

We are all sinners and will continue to sin.
We have all fallen short of the glory of God.

it is not whether they will always continue cheating as it is so much that they will cheat again, once they have done so.

I don't follow this part. I understand they like us are sinners and will continue to engage in sin. But that doesn't mean they will always cheat on their partner or spouse.


Yes but that is not my point.

The point was that someone will only change when there has been true repentence. Not when someone can identify when, or if that has occured.

See I disagree with this on the basis of theology. Thats because I don't believe that once someone has truely repented of a certain sin that they will therefore NEVER commit that same sin again.

That is like saying if I get upset with someone and act in an unloving manner. If something like that ever happens again it means that I never truely repented of it in the first place. I belive you can truely repent of something (be truely sorry for it.) but do a similar or the same thing again in the future. True repentance does not grant one immunity from any sin.

Christian logic?
What is christian logic?

Is it a form of logic that differs from other sorts of logic?

Its logic based on the principals of the Christian faith. It might not solve math problems for you or things like that but Christian logic is applied in a lot of situations without you thinking about it.

For example. . . what ultimatly decides if something is right or wrong?

Christian Logic. . . God decides and we can understand what he thinks on a subject via the scriptures. If God says its wrong its always wrong.

Worldly Logic . . . The law and the individual person decides. But sometimes the law is wrong and sometimes the individual person is wrong.

What is the point of life.

Christian Logic . . . To love and serve God & neighbor.
Worldly Logic . . . To feel good.

It may be a term I invented but you get my point. The logic of a Christian especially on the most important and crucial questions of life varies quite differently and comes to completly different conclutions then that of non-Christians.
 
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I cheated once. I let myself become so depressed that I planned my suicide. Instead of talking to my boyfriend about it; I decided I would talk to my "best friend" who happened to be a guy. Little things would happen each time we talked. A little more each time. Before I knew what was happening it was already done. And while he did get me to throw out the pills and feel better; he also almost completely ruined the relationship I had with my boyfriend. I did eventually tell him everything. He forgave me and I made the decision that I can no longer trust "bestfriend" in my times of need like I should have been able to.

Just because someone cheated once doesn't mean they can't take action to not cheat again. You have to ask yourself what the root of the problem is and eliminate it.
Yes, the root of my problem was depression but a long with that I had a toxic friendship who manipulated me into cheated. Since I was naiive... i went a long and was fooled.

I don't plan on cheating again. I told my friend that I won't see him anymore. I, nor my boyfriend feels comfortable with me around him. Though we do speak occasionally via the internet. Slowly, he is completely leaving my life which I'll let happen but I won't outright tell him how I feel about what happened...
 
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