Please keep in mind Hamas, that Christianity is actually a Jewish sect, and a part of Judaism. Your gift to inter religious dialog, as one who is on the spot of things, is always considered a gift.
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Please keep in mind Hamas, that Christianity is actually a Jewish sect, and a part of Judaism. Your gift to inter religious dialog, as one who is on the spot of things, is always considered a gift.
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tuck
AMEN!
Scripture4All - Greek/Hebrew interlinear Bible software
Ezekiel 39:17 "And thou son of adam, thus says my Lord YHVH "say thou! to bird of every wing and to all of beast of the field 'be assembled ye! and come! together ye from round about on Sacrifice of Me which I sacrificing for ye, a Great Sacrifice on Mountains of Israel.
And ye eat flesh and ye drink blood.
[Reve 19:17,18]
Reve 19:17 And I perceived one Messenger standing in the sun, and He cries-out in great voice, saying to all the birds, the ones flying in mid-heaven, "hither! be ye being gathered! into the Supper of the Great God.
18 That Ye may be eating fleshes of kings......
[Deut 28:26/Ezekiel 39:17,18]
I love you! And that is just plain personal!
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I have no idea what he's talking about. Who/What is Aliyah?
P.S. One of my best friends' name is Aliyah.
I personally trust you. Thank you JJWhite, for agreeing to participate in this topic!
you are loved!
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Interesting. Sounds like it might be similar to the word "allehuia" in the GNT.Originally Posted by JJWhiteI have no idea what he's talking about. Who/What is Aliyah?
P.S. One of my best friends' name is Aliyah.Aliyah is a feminine noun meaning 'lofty'... like, someone who is high, honored, wouldn't stoop down to anything low... something like that
It is used only 4 times in the NT, all in Revelation 19
Reve 19:6 and I hear as sound of a throng, many, and as a sound of many waters, and as sound of strong thunders saying: "allhlouia, that reigns Lord the God *of-us, the Almighty".
239 allelouia {al-lay-loo'-ee-ah} of Hebrew origin from 01984 and 03050; TDNT - 1:264,43; interj imper
AV - alleluia 4; 4
1) praise ye the Lord, Hallelujah
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Just a thought, that maybe if we abbreviate hamashiagape's handle (whew! Not a bad idea) we might use something other than "hammas."
Maybe "H?"
Ray
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Just a thought, that maybe if we abbreviate hamashiagape's handle (whew! Not a bad idea) we might use something other than "hammas."
Maybe "H?"
Ray
I was thinking the same thing... lol
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Interesting. Sounds like it might be similar to the word "allehuia" in the GNT.
It is used only 4 times in the NT, all in Revelation 19
Reve 19:6 and I hear as sound of a throng, many, and as a sound of many waters, and as sound of strong thunders saying: "allhlouia, that reigns Lord the God *of-us, the Almighty".
239 allelouia {al-lay-loo'-ee-ah} of Hebrew origin from 01984 and 03050; TDNT - 1:264,43; interj imper
AV - alleluia 4; 4
1) praise ye the Lord, Hallelujah
Actually... the word I mentioned (Aliyah) sounds REALLY different than Allah in Arabic.
(Allaah) الله
علية ('Aliyyah... with a guttural sound like you're gargling in the beginning and a stressed y sound in the middle)
I'm guessing that 'H' meant something different.
Extra stuff...
In Arabic, Al-Hamdu lillaah is how we say Hallelujah... which reminds me to ask... is halleljah usually said only when one's happy? We are taught to say it for everything that happens. We say it when we wake up in the morning... when we finish eating or drinking... after prayer... if something we like happens... if something we don't like happens... etc.
One of names God describes Himself with in the Qur'aan is Al-'Aliyy (The Most High)
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Instead of answering my question you pointed out a technicality. So I'm going to assume that 'ee-sa' is not a translation of Jesus but a totally different name, as I suspected.
That supports my view that the accounts from the Bible and the Qu'Ran are of two different people.
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WARNING: backing into a point:
We also have this concept, although sadly it is little understood and even less practiced. A comically wrong way of expressing it is as the OT "sacrifice of Praise," saying that meant to Praise G-d even when you don't feel like it. This erroneous teaching conveys an important point, echoed by JJ here - although the sacrifice of Praise doesn't really mean that.
A more Scriptural approach is to start with Thanksgiving, (which can be a challenge depending on our emotional state) and to crescendo into Praise which by definition will include our whole soul including emotions being brought into line.
IOW, Salvation.
We also have this concept, although sadly it is little understood and even less practiced. A comically wrong way of expressing it is as the OT "sacrifice of Praise," saying that meant to Praise G-d even when you don't feel like it. This erroneous teaching conveys an important point, echoed by JJ here - although the sacrifice of Praise doesn't really mean that.
A more Scriptural approach is to start with Thanksgiving, (which can be a challenge depending on our emotional state) and to crescendo into Praise which by definition will include our whole soul including emotions being brought into line.
IOW, Salvation.
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Oh... I just remembered a story.. I like stories. I tell this one to my kids.
It is said that there was a man who was a spoiled prince's right hand man... this man was known to be constantly saying 'alhamdulillaah-praise be to God.' He said it about everything.
One day, the prince and this friend went hunting in the woods. The prince then cut his finger. When he tried to complain to his friend, he just said, 'Alhamdulillaah'. The prince got upset and told him to take it back, how could he be glad that something like that happened. The man said he most certainly would not take it back.. that God be praised for everything. The silly prince then had his companion imprisoned 'to teach him a lesson'. When told he was going to prison, the man just said, 'Alhamdulillaah'.
On a hunting trip some time later... the prince was captured by some people who used to offer human sacrifices to their gods. The prince was placed on the alter and was about to be sacrificed, but the priest halted the ceremony when discovering a scar on the prince's finger, stating that they could only sacrifice a perfect human... and they let him go.
The prince then got his friend out of the prison and apologized and told him what had happened. 'I realize that my cut was for the best and I praise and thank God for it now.. but I wonder what good came out of you being stuck in this lousy prison.' The companion said, 'Before you locked me up, we were inseparable.. had I been with you when those people captured you, I would've probably been their sacrifice since I aint got no scars.'
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Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to [his] purpose."
Same-same.
Same-same.
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Yup.. reminds me of this hadith.
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said, 'Amazing is the affair of the believer... all of his affairs are good, and that is only for the believer. (For) when something joyful happens to him, he is grateful, and that is good for him. And when hardship befalls him, he is patient, and that is good for him.' (Reported by Imam Muslim)
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One would have to accept Jesus' divinity or I do not think that it would work. Josiah, I have been following your topic and it dovetails this topic very nicely and has some interesting things it it.love,
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Just a thought, that maybe if we abbreviate hamashiagape's handle (whew! Not a bad idea) we might use something other than "hammas."
Maybe "H?"
Ray
Opps! I will cut and paste from now on. Thank you for saying something.
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Will I guess that between this topic and Josiah's topic that no one who considered themselves rational are ever going to consider themselves a Christian Muslim or a Muslim Christian. Thank you for participating and I personally learned a lot from what everyone said.
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Glad to hear that bro
Anytime that you personally think that I am over the top as a "cookie", please let me know.
I do not mind and I trust you as a man of God.
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Not so fast - there are Ba'hai here who challenge that notion. Maybe we'll get to see their rationale?
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There are also non-Baha'i here who challenge that notion.
The rational? God is neither Christian NOR Muslim. Since He's neither one, a person can find God in both spiritual traditions. I know folks who are doing just that.
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