Lying

Ethnog said:

NOOO WAYYY. NO WAYYY!!!!

You did not know, that I want that car.


White with black strip please. THANKKS
You are the bestest, ever!

Wait. I don't know anything about cars, but that is a Camaro right? The front part is kind of confusing me.

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It's a 2011 Camaro, yes. How did I get the latest model year ahead of schedule? Errr... you shold know by now that the less you ask what my sources are the happier you will be.

And I know some guys that have a... err... "aftermarket shop" that can sandblast it and paint it any way you want within 4 hours. They only do their work between 1 and 6 AM though.

P.S. The front is probably confusing you because it's an aftermarket hood with a scoop. The better to hide contraband under.

hmm, well the ex used to lie to me .. not far short of constantly, and it was about 50-50 to the ones I caught her out on and the ones I didn't. Wouldn't call it naive, per say, but I was far more gracious dealing with her than I probably should have been.

I lie from time to time, rarely anything major, mostly just to make stories more interesting, which I blame on genetics anyway, 1 side of the family is very much farming based and a good story is far more interesting than the truth. Of course when it comes to making excuses, I'm appallingly bad, as in I can't even manage common courtesy when it comes to declining invitations without it coming out horribly. Fortunately most people that know me don't try to persuade me and just accept my first reply.

toastface_grillah said:

You'd make an awesome tweeter - keep considering that account

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I like you. Where have you been all these months?


Do you Twit? Cuz I'd be lying if I said that I hadn't peeked into a few Tweet accounts and scoped out the nonsensical stuff flying around there. I think I can take 'em on though.

The Twitter community, that is.


Okay, so I was thinking about this a bit today at work (gross). But, Miles' post reminded me of something kind of important.

Miles said:

As far as I'm concerned, it's not dishonest to keep a secret or maintain a modicum of privacy. Unless one is trying to cover up criminal activity and/or putting somebody at risk by withholding information, it's nobody else's business.

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I do agree with this. At first, I was thinking of things that were really important and had some relevance to me (even in a seemingly non-direct way) - like if someone close to me (someone that I love) was battling a serious condition and never told me. I would want to know so that I could support them and be there for them, but also to be prepared. What a terrible surprise that would be to turn around, one moment fine, the other not so fine. But, it didn't cross my mind that there are some things that are just not my business and I do try to respect the privacy of other people (Toastface, I'm lookin' at you. Maybe it's none o' my business if you have a Tweet ). I respect that because I want that, too. I'm not a busybody, so there are some "hidden" or undisclosed truths that perhaps I am just not privy to.. and I'm okay with that, as well.

I'm not good at reading people, sometimes tell the people, when I've been lied to. I'm really not a big fan of telling lies!

white dove said:

I like you. Where have you been all these months?


Do you Twit? Cuz I'd be lying if I said that I hadn't peeked into a few Tweet accounts and scoped out the nonsensical stuff flying around there. I think I can take 'em on though.

The Twitter community, that is.


Okay, so I was thinking about this a bit today at work (gross). But, Miles' post reminded me of something kind of important.




I do agree with this. At first, I was thinking of things that were really important and had some relevance to me (even in a seemingly non-direct way) - like if someone close to me (someone that I love) was battling a serious condition and never told me. I would want to know so that I could support them and be there for them, but also to be prepared. What a terrible surprise that would be to turn around, one moment fine, the other not so fine. But, it didn't cross my mind that there are some things that are just not my business and I do try to respect the privacy of other people (Toastface, I'm lookin' at you. Maybe it's none o' my business if you have a Tweet ). I respect that because I want that, too. I'm not a busybody, so there are some "hidden" or undisclosed truths that perhaps I am just not privy to.. and I'm okay with that, as well.

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LOL I like you too, Dovey. I've been around, just less talking and more lurking.
And yes, I do tweet - check your PMs. Feel free to follow, but you'd better not be an executive headhunter. If you're lying, I'll know.

It's the little ones that really get me. Like what's the point? Some people lie just for sake of lying. lol My best friend always tells me he'll call me back in 5 minutes when he has to get off the phone. 9/10 times he doesn't.
I've never called him out on it. I probably should.

Ethnog said:

Also, do you feel not telling someone about a situation that is happening in your life (someone very close to you) as lying? What I'm trying to say -is not saying anything at all the same as lying for you?

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Like. .telling a close friend you have a crush on them?

Ethnog said:

yes. that is an example.

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Lol well. .i hate to say it but I do think it is lying because I'm not being completely honest. . .and this is someone I laugh and talk with all the time so there is more than enough opportunity to be honest with him. And I must be very good at hiding it because he has no clue . But you probably know my fears. .risking the friendship, looking like a retard, etc. .

Rosalila said:

. .risking the friendship, looking like a retard, etc. .

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Come on, you know that only affects guys not girls. Men don't end friendships when girls they don't love tell them that they love them. It's girls who freak out and run when guys they don't like ask them out.

r035198x said:

Come on, you know that only affects guys not girls. Men don't end friendships when girls they don't love tell them that they love them. It's girls who freak out and run when guys they don't like ask them out.

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depends on the person, guy or girl

If its a stranger whos asking me out, I don't exactly try to forge any kind of connection with the guy if I have no interest in him. If its a friend, then yeah things may be awkward at first but I don't run away from our friendship. I know eventually we'll both get over it and we'll be able to carry on as friends. Its what I'd want from a guy when I'm the one putting myself out there and the feelings aren't mutual, so its what I try to do as a woman when he puts himself out there.

I don't think I am all that great at spotting lies unless I am already looking for them. I am not an observant person by nature so I can miss a lot of signs unless someone comes up and smacks me with it

This doesn't make me trusting as much as it makes me naive sometimes.

And I'm not sure if withholding information is the same as lying. If you are with holding with the intent to deceive, then sure, its lying. But if you are merely using discretion, then I think that is wise.

The replies in this thread are really Ignorant...

First the bible does not say "Thou shall not Lie" that is a modern translation... in Hebrew it says "Thou shall not bear false witness... which in those times was a completely differnt thing. I am not saying it is a good thing to just go and lie your butt off, but Lieing and what the bible actualy says are two very differnt things...


For example...JUST EXAMPLE... Say i was a die hard patrotic german man. I had a family and some jews came to my home asking me to hid them. I hate Nazi's so in deifance to that hateful regiem i hide the jews. Now later some jew hunters come around and knock on my door and ask me if i am hiding jews, I would have no qualms about lying my pants off to them and protect the jews... IT is still lying but it is not wrong...

RAHAB lied to the king of Jericho and protect the spies, she was not chastised or rebuked for her lie.

Now in contrast we see Ananis and Sapharia lying to the holy spirit and the apostles in acts. Was it a big deal that they kept some of the money... NO it was not, but they lied about it any way... Bam they're dead...

When you ask these questions you need to qualify them and make it clear what is lying.

you can not just lump all lies together as being sin. There are isntnaces where if you told the truth, that would be sinning... Int he insntace of the nazi's and jews, you telling the truth would have got the jews killed, there fore you did nothing to protect your fell man and basically aided in the murder of innocent people.

SO i lying bad, yeah almsot always... is it a sin... not all the time...

Ethnog said:

Unless, you both are at different places then you are more mature in seeing what is really there, but still appreciating each other.

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I think this is the case. The guy is my best friend. . .and we both always talk about the importance of getting to know someone beforehand and not jumping into relationships. .we've both made those mistakes before.

r035198x said:

Come on, you know that only affects guys not girls. Men don't end friendships when girls they don't love tell them that they love them. It's girls who freak out and run when guys they don't like ask them out.

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News flash. . it goes both ways . I feel that way.

Rosalila said:

... News flash. . it goes both ways . I feel that way.

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You made your affections known to a guy who freaked out and ran because he didn't reciprocate?
My point was not that girls don't fear making their affections known, rather that their fears are unnecessary.

Ethnog said:

So you are telling me if I told the guy that I liked, right now that I want to be with him, he wont run the other way? ...

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Compare that with me telling a girl I really like that I want to be with her!