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QFTIt has been my experience that American Christians who claim persecution have no clue as to what persecution is truly going on elsewhere in the world. We are fortunate in this country. Very fortunate.
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QFTIt has been my experience that American Christians who claim persecution have no clue as to what persecution is truly going on elsewhere in the world. We are fortunate in this country. Very fortunate.
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I dont want laws based on Christianity. Such a system would be abusive to non-Christians and Christians who dont share the conservatives point of view. Living in such a theocracy would be just like living in Iran (whose laws are fully based on a conservative interpretation of Islamic religion)That's not the point. As Christians, we would want laws based on Christianity.
The will of the people will not be ignored. This will go to the supreme court. America wasn't founded on same sex marriage. Plus, the polygamist and beastality candidates will complain now.
That's not the point. As Christians, we would want laws based on Christianity.
Most of my characters are on Cenarius Been playing SC2 lately anyway, but I suck royally.
My alliance characters are on Cenarius. You should add me on SC2, I can show you the ropes.
It is a copout. It's as if I say, "Well, all you guys are abominations, and you are all going to burn for eternity in hell!" ..."Oh, I'm not saying that, I'm just quoting the Bible." It's a convenient way to absolve oneself from any blame, a convenient cover. It's an easy way to say hurtful things and promote bigotry, without looking guilty of such.
What laws would you add or subtract from existing law to conform to your personal opinion of what God wants?You guys are totally missing the point and I can't help but think that you're being purposefully obtuse.
As a Christian, I'd rather have laws based on Christianity than secularism. As Christians, our actions should, first and foremost, be in line with God's laws, not man's laws.
Man's law may well say homosexual marriage is okay, but God's laws do not.
Can you cite a chapter and verse for this?Man's law makes it okay to abort babies, but God's law does not.
I believe it is more saying that there are many Christians who would abuse such a legal system at the expense of those who dare to disagree with themSaying "this is not a Christian country so we shouldn't have Christian laws" basically smacks God in the face as though His laws don't matter and man's laws trump His.
America wasn't founded on women's suffrage, or freedom for slaves either. Do you want to see those things revoked?America wasn't founded on same sex marriage.
If pro-christian laws are enacted, it'll only be a matter of time before the US is an Islamic theocracy. (I can make misguided slippery slope arguments too!)Plus, the polygamist and beastality candidates will complain now.
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Ah cool, my characters are alliance too. I'll look you up when I get back to SC2. I took a break out of frustrationMy alliance characters are on Cenarius. You should add me on SC2, I can show you the ropes.
God's.
I agree. But the issue regarding Prop 8 now is coming down to whether same-sex marriage should come down to a vote, or whether it is a Constitutionally-protected right. If the latter, then a vote is unnecessary.
If that lets you live witha clear conscience, fine, but you're still the middle man. And saying that you're just letting God speak for himself isn't getting you off the hook anyway, because you are in agreement with him. You can't say "Hey Bob, I agree with what Joe says, and Joe says you're a jerk!" and not expect Bob to get just as upset at you as at Joe. Especially when Joe is nowhere to be seen.
Heck no. Freakin treehugger class! Priest, Lock, and Mage are my main classes. Rogue was my original, but they are too twitchy.Are you guys all druids? (Cenarius = Dr00d in my mind).
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You guys are still missing the point. I realize that we don't have Christian laws. I understand that there is separation of church and state. What I've been trying to say is that God never required that separation, man did. As Christians, we SHOULD strive to have Christian laws based on the Christian faith. To say that we should be happy with secular laws goes against what the bible says:
James 4:4
You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.
I've shown that I don't care if homosexuals marry. You can call yourself married all you want - it doesn't mean that I'm going to consider you married or consider your marriage valid.
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You guys are still missing the point. I realize that we don't have Christian laws. I understand that there is separation of church and state. What I've been trying to say is that God never required that separation, man did. As Christians, we SHOULD strive to have Christian laws based on the Christian faith. To say that we should be happy with secular laws goes against what the bible says:
James 4:4
You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.
I've shown that I don't care if homosexuals marry. You can call yourself married all you want - it doesn't mean that I'm going to consider you married or consider your marriage valid.
Until you can prove which of the thousands of versions of Christianity is right, you're going to have a hard time convincing anyone why it would be best to strive for that. I would never want evangelical Christianity controlling the laws, just like you might not like Catholicism controlling them, and they might object to orthodox. The only tenent I think you could safely argue all Christians in this world agree on is that Jesus is the Messiah. And that statement alone does not a country make.*sigh*
You guys are still missing the point. I realize that we don't have Christian laws. I understand that there is separation of church and state. What I've been trying to say is that God never required that separation, man did. As Christians, we SHOULD strive to have Christian laws based on the Christian faith.
Supporting human rights does not mean one is "friends" with the world.To say that we should be happy with secular laws goes against what the bible says:
James 4:4
You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world is hatred toward God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.
Nobody needs your approval. Most of us don't believe your beliefs are correct, and many Christians don't believe God has a problem with gays.I've shown that I don't care if homosexuals marry. You can call yourself married all you want - it doesn't mean that I'm going to consider you married or consider your marriage valid.