The demonic excuse of "I'm just waiting for God"

I believe he is waiting on us..

Also, in the meantime also preparing a people who will be able to go out in POWER and do a work unlike anything we have seen one earth. This first must come with behind the scenes and wilderness preparation. He will not give his power to just any man who has not paid the price for it.

There are two different issues we are talking about.

We are to be used by God everyday as we are available to him, hopefully we are.

Then, there are things we just have to wait for God to totally lead us to do..and if not, we do not move. There are things we have to be prepared to do and walk in.

So, YES, I believe we are going to truly see this generation walk in the things of God unlike any other. I also believe everything God does has a 'timing' and 'season'. In the meantime, we should still be witnessing and doing as God leads us everyday or our lives....If we are truly following him and available, we should be making an impact even now..everyday...It is not always about some 'big' major event happening either. Everybody we come in contact with is BIG to God..be it in a grocery store..This is the KINGDOM of God. We go everywhere as Jesus did ministering...wherever he leads.

In the meantime, YES, we are to be operating and being lead of the Spirit of God too. Sometimes we can desire to do something, but it not be God's timing. We do have to learn how to live a life lead by the Holy Spirit.

At the same time, YES, God is saying, "GO"..................

JT912 said:

Thanks that was a great and balanced reply to my post amen. My only thing is that I truly doubt whether or not we are responding to His leading. On campus, the work place daily activities etc. I speak for me also lol, my thing isn't to have a big event of any kind if that happend cool but man lets step out, so many are so afraid to engage the enemy "Oh I have to be politically correct" thats garbage feel me? All I'm saying is this, His word already says heal the sick and preach to the lost, we are already anointed for service I just wonder what would happen if we stepped out in faith. He's either God or He isn't.

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Yes, I believe there are things we are called to step out in faith in. If you feel the prompting then step out in faith and do it. I cant' move unless I first feel the prompting to do it....

I would love to see entire hosptials healed..Just walk in and start laying hands on everybody and they come out of their hospitals beds, comas, etc..That is very possible, but I would not dare do that unless I know that God has lead me to take that step of faith and do it.

We can step out in 'flesh' and not the 'Spirit' if not careful. We have to learn the difference.

We can be zealous, but God has to also teach us how to be lead of the Spirit fo God. Jesus said he did nothing unless his Father lead him to do it. I am sure Jesus could have healed every single person in Israel and that part of the world he walked on, but he did not. It was not because he did not have the ability to do it, it was because it was not the plan of God for him to do so.

So,... a person waiting on GOD has a demonic excuse, and not a GOD-given direction within?

ARBITER01 said:

So,... a person waiting on GOD has a demonic excuse, and not a GOD-given direction within?

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Apparently. I wonder if that's what Sarah said to Abraham to convince him to sleep with Hagar?

Tamara224 said:

Apparently. I wonder if that's what Sarah said to Abraham to convince him to sleep with Hagar?

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Yep . good example . I didn't think that , in a P/C forum of all places , being led by the Spirit would be called a "demonic excuse" so that once again people would be led by some version of the written code .

JT912 said:

Thank you for all your replies really their good. I never intended to offend anyone so please forgive me if I have. My purpose is to only do what He says and move when He says move just like Jesus. However I will say this, if anyone gives money to the poor do you have to be led to do that? If you hold a door open for a woman was it done because you were led? Likewise when you see the broken, and lame can we or can't we pray for them? Does God really have to say get healthy? We do these things because it's the right thing to do. I believe God is waiting on us, because he's already been leading, but His people have not acted on faith. I realize that not everybody is not capable of these things because of where their faith is at but to seasoned Christians who know the voice of God and who want to see God move step out.

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Oh really?

So we are to just bear record of ourselves instead of GOD glorifying HIMSELF through us by HIS deeds?

I don't know of anyone who has The Holy Spirit on immediate call to do whatever they say.

Tamara224 said:

Apparently. I wonder if that's what Sarah said to Abraham to convince him to sleep with Hagar?

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Good point.

We are to "follow" Jesus, we are to be "led" by The Holy Spirit. We are to "wait" upon The Lord and let patience have it's perfective work.

I don't think any of us should consider jumping out ahead of Jesus.

JT912 said:

Thank you for all your replies really their good. I never intended to offend anyone so please forgive me if I have. My purpose is to only do what He says and move when He says move just like Jesus. However I will say this, if anyone gives money to the poor do you have to be led to do that? If you hold a door open for a woman was it done because you were led? Likewise when you see the broken, and lame can we or can't we pray for them? Does God really have to say get healthy? We do these things because it's the right thing to do. I believe God is waiting on us, because he's already been leading, but His people have not acted on faith. I realize that not everybody is not capable of these things because of where their faith is at but to seasoned Christians who know the voice of God and who want to see God move step out.

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Well, that sounds good except for one thing.... it teaches us to get in the habit of just doing what we think is good and not listening for the Holy Spirit's voice to guide us.

The thing is that if we get in the habit of consulting God and listening to His prompting, then we will inevitably do good works - the good works that He has prepared in advance for us to do.

Whereas if we get in the habit of assuming we know what He wants us to do, we won't be listening for those times when He says "stop" or "don't" or "wait" and we will end up rushing ahead and doing something that seems right and good to us but isn't really what God wants us to do.

It's true that God may be speaking and people aren't listening, true that many may use "I'm waiting on God" as an excuse to not do. But encouraging people to step out and do fleshly works that seem good, but aren't directed by God, doesn't solve that problem.

We should encourage one another to do what God tells us to do and to listen to Him and know when He's telling us to do something.

JMHO.

I jumped out ahead of Jesus..only to realize he was till infront of me.and when I looked back He was still behind me..I looked left and right and even up and down..stil Jesus was there

I want cookies bake me some

Love your neighbor, you don't need to wait on the Lord to do that. Should I put that person ahead of myself? YES! No need to wait because it's between you and your neighbor.
Things that are not between you and your neighbor but are between God and your neighbor, makes you a middle man. We can't tell God what to do and when to do it. We can let Him use us. We can stand in the Gap, but we can't act on His behalf. If we could do the work of God, then we would not need Him and we would not seek Him (sadly, it;s true). So if God wants to do something and we have the privilege to be used in helping Him out, then we need to wait on Him and follow His lead.

It gets confusing when you hear about the Power of God; the authority given; the anointing...bla bla bla...it sometimes sounds like God gives us a magic stick and we can, or we're maybe even commanded to go and use it on whoever we want. But it's not like that. God is not a magic stick or a spiritual tool in which we use to accomplish super duper spiritual things. He is a person, and we work together; Him in the lead and us following. Miracles are not the ultimate goal IMO, relationship is, and He's chasing after His Bride.

Tamara224 said:

Well, that sounds good except for one thing.... it teaches us to get in the habit of just doing what we think is good and not listening for the Holy Spirit's voice to guide us.

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I read today in my bible notes that King David always consulted the Lord; even when he encountered a situation a second time he didn't just do what God told him to do the time before. He went before the Lord and inquired a second time.
Many people point out that Jesus did not heal the same way twice. He did what He saw His Father doing. This is relational training for us I believe. There is no formula in the Kingdom, there is just knowing and being known; listening, seeking, asking, and doing.
Uzzah (2 Sam 6) thought he was doing the right thing. In fact all the men who were bringing the ark back thought they were doing the right thing. Sarah thought she was doing the right thing when she gave her husband to another woman.....point is, bad things happen when we don't seek His personal Word and act on what we think is good.
He want's to be in relationship with us.

I believe he is waiting on us too. Meanwhile he will be guiding us to all truth and teaching us what we need to know so that when he does what he does it will be for his Glory.

From the bible there seem to be times to move and a time to stay put and wait.

Tamarra raised the example of Abraham and Sarah, good example. That was a time Abraham should have waited and done nothing. Instead he has raised 4,000 years of hell for the descendants of Isaac and Jacob from their enemies the descendants of Ishmael.

IMO the church today needs to stay put. We need to put our house in order, find and project leaders who are practising the lifestyle they preach and are not living like little Kings off the widow's mite.

The churches are chock full of people that are not born again. The time is not not to go out and make a lot of noise we cant back up. The time is to get our house in order!

Paul spent many years in study and in the local churches getting teaching before going on a missionary journey.

Another good example was Patrick. He spent six years as a shepherd alone with God, then many years studying. When the time came he preached and all of Ireland was saved.

If we put the cart before the horse the cart can only go backwards.

1 Kings 22:5
"First seek the counsel of the LORD."

Proverbs 19:2
It is not good to have zeal without knowledge, nor to be hasty and miss the way.

New_Wineskin said:

Yep . good example . I didn't think that , in a P/C forum of all places , being led by the Spirit would be called a "demonic excuse" so that once again people would be led by some version of the written code .

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While I agree we have to be led by the Spirit, we cannot write off the bible as some version of a written code.

In this country, before you are allowed you get behind the wheel of a car, you must study the Highway code, you must pass a test. If someone went out for a drive and didn't know the Highway Code, that person would end up smashed into a tree. Perhaps that big red STOP sign had some importance?

In the same way, people who don't know the bible, no matter how much they believe themselves to be led by the Spirit, usually end up making a pig's behind of themselves, finding their message conflicts with other people's spirit inspired message, or even find their own message is inconsistent with itself.

The safeguard against what the bible calls 'sharing the dellusions of your own mind' is that does it line up with scripture?

God Bless You

Moses probably wondered about what is going to happen when he lifted the staff, stepped out in boldness.. is God going to back me here? Is this a chicken before the egg question? Which comes first, the faith or the calling?

visionary said:

Moses probably wondered about what is going to happen when he lifted the staff, stepped out in boldness.. is God going to back me here? Is this a chicken before the egg question? Which comes first, the faith or the calling?

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Obviously its a chicken before the egg question, because the chicken came first. God created chickens in Genesis not eggs.

Why we've got to wait on God and get that calling, otherwise aren't we just doing our own thing?

BTW, JT912..

Keep your passion and zeal and step out in faith if God is leading you..I do believe there is going to be day in the very near future where we will be clearing out entire hospitals btw. We are headed toward seeing the power of God move on this earth unlike anything.

(..and to those waiting to get raptured away soon, bye bye...I plan to be here being used by God and seeing the most awesome display of his power since not JUST Pentacost, but miracles he did in the Old Testament. Oh yes, that is what I am waiting to see again and it is on the way. When the world is at its worst God's power is going to shine it's best..)