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Just recently I followed a website link from this forum and found a video teaching from a Christian man from a Judean background. The teaching was information concerning the authority of the Rabbi. It was like nothing I'd ever heard before, it made scriptures that I'd read so many times just suddenly come alive!

It explained what Jesus was doing from the ages of 12 - 30 years old and went to be baptized by John.

It explained why Jesus chose the particular disciples that he did. And explained why they were so willing to quickly leave everything and follow Jesus.

It explained why Jesus could "get around" the law. For instance when the rulers of the law brought the woman who'd been caught in the act of adultery. They put her before Jesus and said, "The law says (this), what do you say?"

Jesus replied, "Let he that is without sin cast the first stone". Where does it say that in the old testament? How come he can just come up with his own rules?

The rulers of the law didn't argue any further concerning what he said. They just walked away. I always wondered how could Jesus do that. Now I know.

And something that I've been curious about for quite some time. It explained what "my yoke" really meant when Jesus said, "My yoke is easy, my burden is light".

If you are interested to know more, just ask.
 
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Here's my notes on it from 2 years ago... very interesting stuff! Had to dig through some old files to find all of it! lol
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Bible Training for Jewish children
Here’s the sermon I found online: http://mcdonaldroad.org/sermons/03/0125kc.htm (skip down to the 10th paragraph – it starts with “Turn with me to the book of Matthew chapter 4”)

Here’s the video sermon by Rob Bell (that’s strangely similar to the written sermon above). I found it in two places. Youtube has it in 5 parts, and I found a website that has the entire thing.



Youtube
· Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DswAPdgfRMs
· Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0wxosZqoi0&feature=related
· Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQDtIOuA-9w&feature=related
· Part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9mpe2GbAlg&feature=related
· Part 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5cNUK_nflU&feature=related

Caesarea Philipi
· http://www.biblicalproportions.com/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=980
· I also got some of it from the bottom of the Sermon above, Covered in His Dust (towards the bottom of the page) http://mcdonaldroad.org/sermons/03/0125kc.htm
 
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Here's my notes on it from 2 years ago... very interesting stuff! Had to dig through some old files to find all of it! lol
(edit: dead links removed)

Bible Training for Jewish children
Here’s the sermon I found online: http://mcdonaldroad.org/sermons/03/0125kc.htm (skip down to the 10th paragraph – it starts with “Turn with me to the book of Matthew chapter 4”)

Here’s the video sermon by Rob Bell (that’s strangely similar to the written sermon above). I found it in two places. Youtube has it in 5 parts, and I found a website that has the entire thing.



Youtube
· Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DswAPdgfRMs
· Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0wxosZqoi0&feature=related
· Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQDtIOuA-9w&feature=related
· Part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9mpe2GbAlg&feature=related
· Part 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5cNUK_nflU&feature=related

Caesarea Philipi
· http://www.biblicalproportions.com/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=980
· I also got some of it from the bottom of the Sermon above, Covered in His Dust (towards the bottom of the page) http://mcdonaldroad.org/sermons/03/0125kc.htm

I'm greatly enjoying and learning from these videos....thank you for posting.
 
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The particular teacher, preacher I heard on the subject is not Rob Bell. I have no idea why the two would be talking so closely of such similar things. Other than they both happen to be of Jewish background.

It seems as though they are copying one another, intentional or not, I have no idea.

If anyone is still interested, the preacher I heard was Shane Willard.

Regardless who gives out the information. It's the information that I am thankful for. It has enriched my Bible study tremendously.

Enjoy the information everyone.
 
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Yeah GIG, I actually was kinda irritated with Rob Bell's almost seemingly plageurizing the teaching that I found online. It is sooooo close that it's almost like a copy. I don't have warm fuzzies for Rob Bell any way, his was the only video I saw of this. In my post I did link to an actual sermon typed up which covered the same topic and a little more if I recall correctly. Either way, the content was excellent. It's not for me to judge who delivers it, only to heed the message.
 
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Yeah GIG, I actually was kinda irritated with Rob Bell's almost seemingly plageurizing the teaching that I found online. It is sooooo close that it's almost like a copy. I don't have warm fuzzies for Rob Bell any way, his was the only video I saw of this. In my post I did link to an actual sermon typed up which covered the same topic and a little more if I recall correctly. Either way, the content was excellent. It's not for me to judge who delivers it, only to heed the message.

I appreciate your contribution in providing the (Rob Bell) videos. I have no idea how to embed (the Shane Willard) videos, neither am I sure that doing so would have been some sort of violation of his.

I am so glad that I followed that little website link (that I mentioned on my OP) I wouldn't have known that any such thing existed if I hadn't. But my telling of it opened an opportunity for you to share your videos.

I'd call the entire thing a win-win situation for all.

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Thanks GIG! I agree!

And Steve, I don't care for Rob Bell that much either, as I said, his videos to me seem more to use visual effect to attract. However, I am very glad for the videos you posted and will watch them. I think its our duty to learn and now as much about Jewish heritage and history as we can because it unlocks SO many different aspects of the Bible that we are otherwise ignorant to.
 
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Sorry, you'll have to enlighten me on your thoughts surrounding your post. I think I took it out of context :)
Why would God hold back anything from His childern? The point being is man doesn't let God be God and rule as He see fit. There is no way anyman could know what christ did from 12 to 30 yrs old if the informantion isn't given or one could say the Holy Spirit didn't see a reason to add it to the book. There is a big red flag going up here it is called the law. The point being is if God want you do know something just ask Him He will tell you to your face. WHY DID THE JEWS DROP THE STONES AND WALK AWAY? THE GOD OF GRACE JESUS CHRIST TOLD THEM TO. God spoke and that was that.
 
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Follow Jesus so close that you are covered in His dust...
Doesnt that just make you want to stand up and SHOUT ??????
Oh and I dont believe the sermon was telling us what Jesus DID, only what Jewish people did as they were growing up so what I got from it, was, it's highly probable the Master grew up the same way while also learning a trade from his earthly father.
 
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Follow Jesus so close that you are covered in His dust...
Doesnt that just make you want to stand up and SHOUT ??????
Oh and I dont believe the sermon was telling us what Jesus DID, only what Jewish people did as they were growing up so what I got from it, was, it's highly probable the Master grew up the same way while also learning a trade from his earthly father.


from the greatest of Jewish prayers...

"... and you shall teach them repetitively to your children... and speak of them" throughout your day from morning till night in work and at home.



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