But I Learn So Much from Glenn Beck!

Simon_Templar said:

I'm not offended by him. I'm irritated that people think he's any different than the people he's lampooning. He's doing exactly the same thing they are and he's not really any more intelligent about it.

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Brooker's very intelligent. He's witty and he's got a keen sense of observation. You should read his columns @ the guardian, or check out newswipe. He's very British - sarcastic and somewhat blase but nearly always spot-on.

Antigone said:

Brooker's very intelligent. He's witty and he's got a keen sense of observation. You should read his columns @ the guardian, or check out newswipe. He's very British - sarcastic and somewhat blase but nearly always spot-on.

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I enjoy witty retorts and clever turns of phrase as much as anyone. However, I find it truly sad that being funny has become the primary virtue of our age. A person can say just about anything, no matter how vile or cruel so long as it's funny. It is similarly distressing that people confuse sarcasm and verbal riposte with real intellect and wisdom.

It is true that a certain quickness of mind is demonstrated, but this is merely thinking quickly, not thinking well.

To be fair to Brooker, he's a pessimist, but he'll admit it if he likes something.

I can't say I've learned much from Glenn Beck, but I did learn one thing that I will never forget. It seems that if you put Vicks directly under your eyes, it will enable you to produce tears on demand! Then, with a bit of face contortion, and perhaps some pitiful whining for good measure, you can get people to believe you're really crying. I saw a news segment about it that showed Glenn Beck and some woman discussing the matter, and applying the Vicks under Glenn's eyes. Were it not for Glenn Beck, I likely would have spent my entire life never knowing that such a thing could be, and often has been, done. It was really an eye opener!

Like I said, I am not able to get him on radio so I guess you folks know more there, but I have seen his Founding Fathers Fridays and I do find them rather interesting. Didn't learn much about Samuel Adams, Whitman, or the black heros during the Revolution in school and I found his program on those and his favorite founder, George Washington, quite interesting. I'm looking forward to his show on James Madison this Friday. (Black boards don't seem to be involved--just interviews of different authors of books about them and even paintings of the founders.)

Glenn Beck is extreme but like i said, he is more right then wrong. He is right about a lot of the stuff the Feds are trying to do to us... but since he's a kook, no one is going to listen to him.

My favorite Conservative talk radio guy is Mark Levine.

Don't rag on Beck. I don't think that there is one person that listens to him for religious content. However, for all those liberals and atheist and such, i bet it eats them up inside when he says good things about Jesus. Plus, he brings to surface all the wacky things liberals and dem.'s are up to. Kinda like the Gov. race... lol .. That guy that won the dem. primary and nobody knows who he is. If he wins, he can just give himself a pardon right? Is it S. Carolina? Something like that. I hope that guy wins.

stone said:

Don't rag on Beck. I don't think that there is one person that listens to him for religious content. However, for all those liberals and atheist and such, i bet it eats them up inside when he says good things about Jesus. Plus, he brings to surface all the wacky things liberals and dem.'s are up to. Kinda like the Gov. race... lol .. That guy that won the dem. primary and nobody knows who he is. If he wins, he can just give himself a pardon right? Is it S. Carolina? Something like that. I hope that guy wins.

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Mockery is so much more fun when you don't discriminate.

2WhomShallWeGo said:

He doesn't get everything right he gets alot of things right,

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For instance?

EnemyPartyII said:

For instance?

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George Washington was our first president? There were black heros in the Revolution? Whitman was a minister? Samuel Adams isn't known just for beer?

stone said:

Don't rag on Beck. I don't think that there is one person that listens to him for religious content. However, for all those liberals and atheist and such, i bet it eats them up inside when he says good things about Jesus. Plus, he brings to surface all the wacky things liberals and dem.'s are up to. Kinda like the Gov. race... lol .. That guy that won the dem. primary and nobody knows who he is. If he wins, he can just give himself a pardon right? Is it S. Carolina? Something like that. I hope that guy wins.

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you saw that too???

wow, huh?

"they" are so up to something and it's not funny- they are really fundamentally changing the US and isn't that what Obama said he was going to do? "Fundamentally change the United Sates"? wan't that his Mantra? "change"?

what is wrong with ppl that they do not see this?

Antigone said:

Mockery is so much more fun when you don't discriminate.

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What are you talking about? You used mockery and discrimination in the same sentence and it really doesn't make any sense to me what your saying.

benedictaoo said:

what is wrong with ppl that they do not see this?

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They're under a spell, is what it looks like.

stone said:

What are you talking about? You used mockery and discrimination in the same sentence and it really doesn't make any sense to me what your saying.

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I don't thinks she has th facts about the guy who was in jail who mysteriously was given 10,000 to run and he won and he didn't campaign not one bit. Did not run not one ad, spoke to no one, had no debates... nothing, not one dime spent and he won.

I think she just thinks you were mocking a random ordinary politician.

stone said:

They're under a spell, is what it looks like.

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it's really scary.

benedictaoo said:

I don't thinks she has th facts about the guy who was in jail who mysteriously was given 10,000 to run and he won and he didn't campaign not one bit. Did not run not one ad, spoke to no one, had no debates... nothing, not one dime spent and he won.

I think she just thinks you were mocking a random ordinary politician.

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Actually, I meant that Beck just goes after anything left of Mussolini.

Personally, I love Have I Got News For You (it's on the Beeb, but you can check episodes at YouTube). They mock everyone, regardless of their political affilation. They've had guests ranging from labour union presidents to Anne freaking Widdecomb.

benedictaoo said:

what is wrong with ppl that they do not see this?

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Don't you know Obama is the second coming, Of what I'll never know, but when ever I hear the press salivate over the Guy I feel a second coming of whatever I was eating before.

Antigone said:

Actually, I meant that Beck just goes after anything left of Mussolini.

Personally, I love Have I Got News For You (it's on the Beeb, but you can check episodes at YouTube). They mock everyone, regardless of their political affilation. They've had guests ranging from labour union presidents to Anne freaking Widdecomb.

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It is commonly taught and believed that fascism is right wing. The ironic, historical reality is that fascism was born out of the left. In its early stages it was primarily socialist. One of the reasons that communists and fascists faught so much (speaking of the respective political parties specifically) was that they were both appealing to the same population base. They were both appealing to socialist revolutionary feeling among the people.

Both Hitler and Mussolini began on platforms of progressive socialism.

There are two primary differences between fascism and communism.

#1 - fascism is nationalistic while communism is globalist. However, both are totalitarian. The original meaning of totalitarian (coined by Mussolini actually) is the idea that the community encompasses everything. The good of the community, is the highest good and thus the concerns of the community must encompass every aspect of life.
The only difference then is that communism defines "the community" in terms of class, which transcends national borders, and thus is globalist. Fascism defined community in terms of the nation state, and thus is nationalistic.

However, this is not to say that class struggle and class ideology has no place in fascism. On the contrary the fascist movements of the early 20th century all strongly relied on exploiting class struggle and without exception the fascist parties appealed to the working class to rise up and over-throw the status quo in order to establish a more equitable state (ie community). The difference here is very thin between communism and fascism.

#2 - Secondly communism is ideologically tied to one economic philosophy. Fascism, on the other hand, tends towards a mixture of socialism and syndicalism, but it is not irrevocably tied to any economic philosophy. Fascism is a utilitarian philosophy in terms of economics. It can adopt whatever the party thinks will work.

In practice the syndicalist and socialist leanings worked out to be a kind of corporatism where industry and business was allowed to remain private in a sense, but it was essentially controlled by the state. Controlled in the sense that industry supported the government and the governments policies. In exchange the government gave them benefits etc.
Ostensibly the party/government oversaw industry for the benefit of the community or the workers.


So... the idea that fascists are right wing is a misunderstanding, largely propagated as a smear by leftists. Fascism was a direct outgrowth of socialism and progressivism. Both of which are "left wing".

Wow. That was more interesting than Glenn Beck's Founders' Fridays.