Lost - Series Finale (May 23, 2010)

The more I think about it, the more I would love to hear Kate trying to explain her reappearance.

"So let me get this straight...you crash in the middle of the Pacific and show up months later with 5 other people (including a baby) who you say are the only survivors. Three years later you board a plane with four of the other five survivors of the first crash, and crash in the middle of the Pacific AGAIN. You show up weeks later in the same plane with the pilot, two people from the ORIGINAL crash who you claimed were dead (including the baby's mother), a guy who also disappeared 3 years ago and claims he can talk to dead people, and someone who says he's 250 years old. Now what's your explanation again?"

I thought the ending was odd at first. I really had to reflect on it to absorb it better. I think they left alot of loose ends, had some contradictions, but overall it was worth 6 years of viewing.

I was a bit disappointed. It was anti-climactic. I really really liked the reunions - everyone finding each other and remembering. I really disliked that they were dead and then it was just done. I would very much have liked to get at least some hints or clues about those who left the island. Or some better idea as to what, exactly, the Island was and why it was so important to save it.


I was also wondering who the skeleton was in the cavern?

My understanding is that they were still alive during season 1 after crashing on the island. After each person died, they would enter into the flash-sideways realm, which is what we viewed in Season 6.

However... Christian Shepperd told Jack, there is no "now" in that world. So we see everyone's dead spirit, but it's not an indication of them having died in a chronological sense. Some died long before, some died long after. What surprised me most about this was seeing Hurley in the afterlife. I sorta supposed that becoming the guardian of the island meant having some sort of omnipotence.

The most symbolic moment was when Juliet told Sawyer about unplugging the vending machine. This was analogous to pulling that "cork" in the cave. Everything reset. So now Hurley could run the island his way and with his rules.

Love it or hate it, I still wish that the writers would've at least "planned" some more time into closing off some loose ends. I think that's just disrespect to the viewers. They kept flashing Jack's tattoo throughout the finale and I thought to myself, "Ha! So they're going to answer the mystery of his tattoo!"

Nope.

The numbers?

Nope.

Kate's horse?

Nope.

The hatches? The polar bears? Tunisia?

Nope. Nope. Nope.

The statue with the ankh?

Nope.

MIB's name?

Nope.

Speaking of MIB, we all saw how he became the smoke monster, right? But then, in the finale, we saw how the inside of the cave was set up. The way Jacob sorta tossed his brother into the stream, there really isn't any way that he would've landed into that light-pool.

Tamara224 said:

I was also wondering who the skeleton was in the cavern?

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I actually saw more than one! I'm curious who they were as well. Nosey people?

So after seeing all the episodes which LOST character was your favorite? I have a hard time choosing between Ben Linus and Locke (pre-turning into smoke monster). I would probably have to say Ben though. I like how Ben lived a tragic life and commited many evil acts but eventual came to a redemption of sorts.

Christos Anesti said:

So after seeing all the episodes which LOST character was your favorite? I have a hard time choosing between Ben Linus and Locke (pre-turning into smoke monster). I would probably have to say Ben though. I like how Ben lived a tragic life and commited many evil acts but eventual came to a redemption of sorts.

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Hurley for sure, followed by Desmond and then Mr. Eko. Bernard was cool too.

snoochface said:

Oh yeah, Eko and Bernard are awesome. I was so disappointed that Eko (the actor who played) didn't want to come back for the finale

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Totally! Someone else here mentioned maybe the actor who played Eko didn't want to be on the show anymore (I can't imagine why??!). But I think everyone wanted more of him, so that's really such a shame. Bernard is such a cool cat. A go-to guy when needed, and so totally dedicated to his wife - love that guy. I am glad they tied up the loose ends with him and Rose.

It really sucks when actors make money get in the way. I mean... what else is he doing? G.I. Joe 2?

snoochface said:

Me too, Rose and Bernard were like MY constants. Anytime I saw those two, it was like, okay, everything is alright again.

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Yep, exactly. It's almost like they were above everything else that happened on the Island. They were totally focused on what mattered.

snoochface said:

As for Eko, I read today that he was offered a chance to come back for a final scene in the finale, like Boone and Shannon's wrap-up. But the actor wanted 5 times what they offered him, so they couldn't make it happen. What a shame.

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That's too bad. But good on them for not bowing to that kind of demand. Oy. As fantastic as it would have been to have him back, it still would have been pretty minimal in the grand scope of the finale. Eko was great, but he wasn't one of the major characters in the end.

So...I keep finding myself wondering about two things over and over again...

First off, the 'Flash Sideways' was a sort of 'purgatory'. All of its (spiritual) inhabitants either died on the island, spent substantial time on the island, or were directly connected to somebody in one of those catagories. It is clear from Jacks dads comment (and a few other hints here and there in retrospect) that the dead lostaways and other dead folks of the island (with a few others) effectively created the Flash Sideways realm, which, I'm fairly sure probably didn't amount to much more than just LA, and probably just parts of that, along with a few airplane interiors ('thoughtform' in new age magical lingo). We *know* Hurley was talking to the dead denizens of the island, mostly lostaways but also other folks (like Richards wife). I keep getting this vision of him talking to the spirits on the island during his tenure as Guardian, saying:

"Dudes, I'm changing the rules. I'm going to sorta set it up so you can leave...the deal is, you try real hard to imagine what your life would have been like if you'd never come to the island...oh...and that life has to be in LA..."

I also find myself wondering what happened to the people who died in the Flash Sideways realm. Did they once again find themselves aimless island spirits?

I also noticed that there seemed to be different 'groups' within the flash sideways realm. We had the interconnecting lostaways. We had the criminal group (mostly killed in the resteraunt). We also had the 'Widmore' and possibly 'Dharma' groups started thinking about this when I saw Chang giving his intro speech at the concert.

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Somebody else here already touched upon the other bit I find myself wondering about. That Aljira flight took off from LA with the Oceanic Six, Lapetus, flight crew, Jacobs bodyguards, and a few other stray sorts. It lands on the island, which means it is presumed crashed. Usual procedure from the news would be to spend a few days searching for it, then give up. Plane spends something like a week or ten days on the island and then takes off - but only two of the original two dozen or so people that were on that flight are onboard: instead we got two more Oceanic survivors (Sawyer and Claire, both dead according to the 'Oceanic 6'), Miles (who was on neither the Oceanic flight nor the Aljira flight), and Richard, an unknown. So to land that plane anywhere civilized without facing serious prison time, the people on board would have to A) explain what happened to the two dozen missing people; and B) account for the people not on the original manifest. Yes, Sawyer, Miles, Claire, and Richard might claim to be people off the manifest...but that still leaves a lot of people unaccounted for, plus it still doesn't account for that plane being back in the air a week or two after it supposedly crashed. Best I could come up with here is this bunch would have to crash the plane a second time, with the new official story being that Kate and Lapedus were the only Aljira survivors, and the rest were never on the plane - and they'd have to ditch it in the ocean so it'd sink and that wreckage not examinable.

snoochface said:

It's the end of an era..... and here's the thread to discuss the final episode.

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I watched it - it was... great. I'd hoped for some answers and some were given and some were not, but I'd also hoped that it wouldn't be crammed with all sorts of explanations, and I think they left it just where it needed to be.

Totally called the final scene (Jack's eye closing and a fade and then the LOST logo) way back when I heard they'd set a definite ending for the series.
Didn't call the rest of the ending though (my idea of the ending was FakeLocke and Jack sitting on a beach, watching a ship/airplane come on to the island).

I have to say that was one of the most touching and moving endings I've seen, and was very pleased with it. I think the last time I cried over an ending of a show like that was..... well.... never, unless you count the movie Serenity which was basically the ending for the TV series Firefly.

Flash-sideways as a sort of resting place was interesting, and it actually touched me pretty deeply - in many ways it was similar to my own Wiccan beliefs in the Summerland: after you die you go to this place, reminisce about experiences with your loved ones and friends and others that you've known, reflect on your life and what you learned, and then move on.

Very sad to see the end, but glad at the same time. I think after several full watch-throughs of the entire series over the next few years, I'll still be making connections and catching things I missed - that's what makes this series so great and so timeless.