Who is the Son?

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How very strange that someone who has read The Book of Mormon would say such a bizarre thing.

There is nothing bizarre about it.

Alma 11

38 Now Zeezrom saith again unto him: Is the Son of God the very Eternal Father? 39 And Amulek said unto him: Yea, he is the very Eternal Father of heaven and of earth, and ball things which in them are; he is the beginning and the end, the first and the last;

40 And he shall come into the world to redeem his people; and he shall take upon him the transgressions of those who believe on his name; and these are they that shall have eternal life, and salvation cometh to none else.


Mosiah 15

1 And now Abinadi said unto them: I would that ye should understand that aGod himself shall bcome down among the children of men, and shall credeem his people. 2 And because he adwelleth in bflesh he shall be called the cSon of God, and having subjected the flesh to the dwill of the eFather, being the Father and the Son—

3 The Father, abecause he was bconceived by the power of God; and the Son, because of the flesh; thus becoming the Father and Son—

4 And they are aone God, yea, the very bEternal cFather of heaven and of earth.

5 And thus the flesh becoming subject to the Spirit, or the Son to the Father, being one God, asuffereth temptation, and yieldeth not to the temptation, but suffereth himself to be mocked, and bscourged, and cast out, and disowned by his cpeople.



That's modalism. Of course, Smith wasn't consistent in his Christology but he did not need to be for his scheme to work, given his followers.
 
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“All things are delivered to me of my Father; and
no man knoweth that the Son is the Father, and the Father is the Son, but him to whom the Son will reveal it."
JST Luke 10:23

the way I've understood the [Father = also the Son & the Spirit] in different contexts (so we can RELATE :))
& taught it:
is something on the order of [Water = also Ice & Steam] in different contexts

is that how you relate to it also?
 
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There is nothing bizarre about it.

Alma 11

38 Now Zeezrom saith again unto him: Is the Son of God the very Eternal Father? 39 And Amulek said unto him: Yea, he is the very Eternal Father of heaven and of earth, and ball things which in them are; he is the beginning and the end, the first and the last;

40 And he shall come into the world to redeem his people; and he shall take upon him the transgressions of those who believe on his name; and these are they that shall have eternal life, and salvation cometh to none else.


Mosiah 15

1 And now Abinadi said unto them: I would that ye should understand that aGod himself shall bcome down among the children of men, and shall credeem his people. 2 And because he adwelleth in bflesh he shall be called the cSon of God, and having subjected the flesh to the dwill of the eFather, being the Father and the Son—

3 The Father, abecause he was bconceived by the power of God; and the Son, because of the flesh; thus becoming the Father and Son—

4 And they are aone God, yea, the very bEternal cFather of heaven and of earth.

5 And thus the flesh becoming subject to the Spirit, or the Son to the Father, being one God, asuffereth temptation, and yieldeth not to the temptation, but suffereth himself to be mocked, and bscourged, and cast out, and disowned by his cpeople.



That's modalism. Of course, Smith wasn't consistent in his Christology but he did not need to be for his scheme to work, given his followers.

Again, to draw a conclusion of modalism from a few verses would require a great deal of ignoring of Book of Mormon doctrine.
 
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Christianity as a whole, is in trouble.
Unfortunately, that's currently true.

One such example, how currently christianity is failing
in teaching God/Christ's :angel: will: He encouraged us
(as another Fishing-tool for the SAVIOR's :angel: work), to
helpfully :thumbsup: teach one another to (emotionally & physically) heal:clap:
but instead:
1. christians: want & expect GOD, to do for them;
what He suggested we do for ourselves, Starting with
practicing...Christ-like thinking:
Proverbs 23:7 "For as a man thinketh in his heart, so is he"
iow,
christians want & expect - GOD will do, for people,
their own changing & consequently healing. - but
God, respecting human choices, allows suffering.
(Until they, themselves, will & do play the game God's way.)
and
2. mormons fall into similar traps: "IF
your Faith (in God) was great enough, & you said enuf prayers,
then you'd be healed." - Once again, shifting the burden
on GOD, who had nothing to do with human's poor & sick choices.
and
3. atheists: How well are science-gods succeeding in
most Cancer-'wars': butcherings, zappings, & poisonings
do what?? - acc. to statistics: ever more people are dying.

All 3 groups are sad states of affairs, that could so easily be solved, How?
by helpfully :thumbsup: teaching one another to (emotionally & physically) heal:clap:
.
 
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