The Gift of Healing....

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Joshua 17:17 And Joshua spake unto the house of Joseph, even to Ephraim and to Manasseh, saying, Thou art a great people, and hast great power: thou shalt not have one lot only:
We are those people. We are the great people He gave power to. What power?


Psalm 68:35 O God, thou art terrible out of thy holy places: the God of Israel is He that giveth strength and power unto His people. Blessed be God.

Jeremiah 27:5 I have made the earth, the man and the beast that are upon the ground, by My great power and by My outstretched arm, and have given it unto whom it seemed meet unto Me.

Matthew 9:8 But when the multitudes saw it, they marvelled, and glorified God, which had given such power unto men.

10:1 And when He had called unto Him His twelve disciples, He gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.

Mark 3:14-15 And He ordained twelve, that they should be with Him, and that He might send them forth to preach, And to have power to heal sicknesses, and to cast out devils:
We are His people. We are called by Him and as such we too are His disciples. We are among the twelve called to Him to “be with Him.” He lives in us and we in Him. He dwells in us and walks in us. He is our power.


11 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
The Biblical number twelve represents “a perfect number, signifying perfection of government, or of governmental perfection.” ~ Numbers in Scripture.


So the twelve disciples represent all of His disciples, all those He lives in, all of us that are His temple. As His disciples He gives us power and places us where we are needed with various gifts……


1 Corinthians 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

Mark 16:17-19 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In My name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, He was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
How many of us consider or put into use His power to heal through us, His called out ones?
 

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God is certainly capable of instantaneous, miraculous healing with or without the participation of human beings. Christians are instructed to lay hands on and to pray for those who are sick.

Most normally, though, God chooses to wear the mask of physicians and nurses who use their God-given abilities and training in their vocation of healing and treating sickness.
 
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I don't know for sure. I know I've felt the need one time to lay my hands on someone with an injury but did not do it and I regret not doing it. What would have come of it I don't know.


Me too. Fear of embarassment, ridicule, failure...whatever. Is it turning our back on a precious gift and an opportunity? If prayer alone was enough then would He have said....."they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover?"
John 1:12 But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name:

Romans 13:1-3 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
As He has given us power to become His son is it resisting His power, denying His power freely given to us, if we don't risk the small price of embarassment to allow Him to work through us?

11 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
 
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You need to be very careful about thinking that by our works or actions we can oblige God to act or in any way control God. Just because we are instructed to "lay hands on the sick" there is not in any way a guarantee that "they shall recover."
 
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Me too. Fear of embarassment, ridicule, failure...whatever. Is it turning our back on a precious gift and an opportunity? If prayer alone was enough then would He have said....."they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover?"
John 1:12 But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name:

Romans 13:1-3 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
As He has given us power to become His son is it resisting His power, denying His power freely given to us, if we don't risk the small price of embarassment to allow Him to work through us?
11 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
I was just... awkward. It felt bizarre and I didn't understand it (and I'm so overdone on trying to understand things. it's like an obsession for me so not being able to decipher something causes me real anxiety). Upon reflection I wish I had. I don't think God NEEDED me to do it, but I think I personally missed out by NOT doing it.
 
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I was just... awkward. It felt bizarre and I didn't understand it (and I'm so overdone on trying to understand things. it's like an obsession for me so not being able to decipher something causes me real anxiety). Upon reflection I wish I had. I don't think God NEEDED me to do it, but I think I personally missed out by NOT doing it.

Perhaps it is part of our walk with Him. He doesn't need us to for His sake but needs us to for our sakes....there is a purpose in His using us....for others to see Him in us. I understand the "awkwardness" you felt. I don't feel anxiety but part of me has difficulty being openly demonstrative about some things.
 
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You need to be very careful about thinking that by our works or actions we can oblige God to act or in any way control God. Just because we are instructed to "lay hands on the sick" there is not in any way a guarantee that "they shall recover."

I'm sorry my words made you consider that those were my thoughts.
 
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Perhaps it is part of our walk with Him. He doesn't need us to for His sake but needs us to for our sakes....there is a purpose in His using us....for others to see Him in us. I understand the "awkwardness" you felt. I don't feel anxiety but part of me has difficulty being openly demonstrative about some things.
yeah. I hope I get to do it again.... am offered that chance. I think I'm mature enough to understand that I should just do now.
 
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I know God still heals today,the problem is the dogmatic belief system that sets some up as the "unfaithfull"

They ignore these verses.

2 Timothy 4:20
Erastus remained at Corinth, and I left Trophimus, who was ill, at Miletus.

1 Timothy 5:23
(No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent ailments.)

Gal 4;13 You know it was because of a bodily ailment that I preached the gospel to you at first
 
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How many of us consider or put into use His power to heal through us, His called out ones?
I've been healed a few times but I believe that having the gift of healing comes only through the Holy Spirit and is something that not everyone one has and most likely, very few people have, percentage wise.
 
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I've been healed a few times but I believe that having the gift of healing comes only through the Holy Spirit and is something that not everyone one has and most likely, very few people have, percentage wise.


Certainly the gift is through the Holy Spirit but I question your belief that few people have that gift. I say that because.....


1 Corinthians 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
There it appears to fall in line as if it is given to many. I wonder if we simply don't realize the power He gives us and therefore don't use it.
 
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Certainly the gift is through the Holy Spirit but I question your belief that few people have that gift. I say that because.....
1 Corinthians 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
There it appears to fall in line as if it is given to many. I wonder if we simply don't realize the power He gives us and therefore don't use it.
I certainly believe that there are those that have the gift of healing and there are those that would receive it if they truly allowed the Spirit of God to live in them. I also said, "percentage wise". If we have 1000 people and 5% have the gift, we have 50 people with the gift.

IMHO, when someone has the gift, they know it. When they lay hands on the sick, they know the outcome of their actions.

We each have the Spirit and we should each pray for healing and come together to pray for healing.

James 5:

14 Is anyone among you sick? He should summon the presbyters of the church, and they should pray over him and anoint (him) with oil in the name of the Lord,
15 and the prayer of faith will save the sick person, and the Lord will raise him up. If he has committed any sins, he will be forgiven.


The world is full of pain and suffering but what is needed more than physical healing is spiritual healing. Though we each may not have the gift of healing we do have the ability to bring spiritual healing when we share God's love. The gift of love is available to us all.
 
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Mark 3:14-15 And He ordained twelve, that they should be with Him, and that He might send them forth to preach, And to have power to heal sicknesses, and to cast out devils:
We are His people. We are called by Him and as such we too are His disciples. We are among the twelve called to Him to “be with Him.” He lives in us and we in Him. He dwells in us and walks in us. He is our power.

Amen!
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http://bible.logos.com/passage/esv/Mark 16.17- 19
How many of us consider or put into use His power to heal through us, His called out ones?
Always and forever baby!
You got it, flaunt it :D



God is certainly capable of instantaneous, miraculous healing with or without the participation of human beings. Christians are instructed to lay hands on and to pray for those who are sick.
Amen we sure are!
You think He instructs us to do this just for a laugh? ;)
Or so we can look dumb.
"Yeah, My God says I am to lay hands on you... but.. DON"T expect anything to
actually COME of it... I mean, my God is wishy washy"
Naw, I believe 100% that when our God tells us to lay hands on the sick and that
they SHALL become well... that He means EXACTLY that .
:thumbsup:
Or is there reason for me to believe that that's NOT what he meant?

Most normally, though, God chooses to wear the mask of physicians and nurses who use their God-given abilities and training in their vocation of healing and treating sickness.
Most "normally" He wants us to pray for the sick.
Experientially.
I have nine kids..
Have had MAYBE 5 doctor appointments in the last ten years (guesstimate)
That's eleven people. (I mean for sickness)
Doctors are def needed :thumbsup:
They sometimes need to cast a broken bone etc.
Lot's of things.
But we also need to consider the laying on of hands.
Some go straight to doc without doing the laying on.

I found a huge lump the week before Christmas (walnut sized)
Went to doc (had no choice, family pestered me, thought i was gonna die ;) )
Doc sent me for ultrasound... Doc's paperwork got messed up...
weeks went by (2 maybe 3) Went to church, had a woman of God lay hands on
the lump... checked it a couple days later (waited because I wanted to build faith
and not keep checking thinking it would be there .. if you can understand that)
Lump GONE... nada,... bye bye

God watches over His word to perform it baby!
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You need to be very careful about thinking that by our works or actions we can oblige God to act or in any way control God.
Nobody would (with a sound mind) want to try to control God... silly!

Just because we are instructed to "lay hands on the sick" there is not in any way a guarantee that "they shall recover."
God's word is NOT forever settled in Heaven?
Surely Has He said it and shall He NOT do it?

:idea:
 
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Great witness for God, sunlover1.

Thanks :)
I cried a LOT (thanksgiving)
Laughed a lot too.

Had another awesome experience last fall when my uncle
was being taken off of life support. (they were pulling the plug
because he was so far gone... he all of the sudden regained
use of all of the organs that had shut down AND regained
consciousness and walked out of the hospital couple days later
after a very lengthy stay.)
:bow:
 
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Thanks :)
I cried a LOT (thanksgiving)
Laughed a lot too.

Had another awesome experience last fall when my uncle
was being taken off of life support. (they were pulling the plug
because he was so far gone... he all of the sudden regained
use of all of the organs that had shut down AND regained
consciousness and walked out of the hospital couple days later
after a very lengthy stay.)
:bow:


Dearest Sunlover1.....you have made my day, my week...oh heck, my whole year!!! :D

It is my grandson I am so concerned about. I pray for him but for the past few days the thought about healing has been heavy on my mind. I have never tried this...feel a bit awkward but with your wonderful testimony have to question....why haven't I? Why not? Are we not instructed to do just that? It isn't for me to say if He will or will not heal him, I just feel led to do this and then it is up to Him.

Thank you so very much! :pray:

PS: I'm very, very happy you are well and kick'in.
 
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