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uhmmm didn't you say:
and then two posts later accuse CaptainNemo1138 of "wishful thinking" for doing basically what you're doing? :confused:
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I said he cannot disprove the bible. Nobody can disprove just as nobody can prove the bible is God's word. If somebody say's they can (prove or disprove) it's wishful thinking. Now the only way to prove it for yourself is to witness the power of God for yourself.

But we can see the bible archaeological accuracy and the many prophecies that have or are coming to past in our time. God Bless
 
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Just take out the monsters, gods, and angels and bam! Both are rough histories.

So the only reason it's not historical accurate is because it mentions God and that goes against your worldview. Yet you still cannot disprove it, Just as I cannot prove to you that God is real... But that still does not make it fiction.
 
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I said he cannot disprove the bible. Nobody can disprove just as nobody can prove the bible is God's word. If somebody say's they can (prove or disprove) it's wishful thinking. Now the only way to prove it for yourself is to witness the power of God for yourself.

But we can see the bible archaeological accuracy and the many prophecies that have or are coming to past in our time. God Bless

...and you believe those prove the Bible? :confused:
tulc(still not seeing much difference here) :wave:
 
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So the only reason it's not historical accurate is because it mentions God and that goes against your worldview.

What part of "I believe in God" did you not understand. I believe in God. I do not believe in the Abrahamic interpretation of God.
 
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I find it adorable the children on Spring Break have taken time out of their Emo mall crawling to try and break their forum by flooding it.

I'm pretty sure most sites by would be terrorists are taken down. And the folks that cripple forums are called Anonymous. Anonymous is less a group of kids and more a hive mind, a sort of super intelligence. Often, this force of nature, this Anonymous is used for teh lulz, but occasionally they do something good, like protesting Scientology and catching child molesters.
 
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What part of "I believe in God" did you not understand. I believe in God. I do not believe in the Abrahamic interpretation of God.

The post was referring to your post which stated:

"Just take out the monsters, gods, and angels and bam! Both are rough histories."
 
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Yes. And history should not contain gods or monsters, only living, flesh and blood creatures and proven fact. The moment the supernatural is brought in, history becomes legend.

As I said in a post on the last page (page 7):

So the only reason it's not historical accurate is because it mentions God and that goes against your worldview. Yet you still cannot disprove it, Just as I cannot prove to you that God is real... But that still does not make it fiction (fiction is when it can be proven false). The bible is archaeological accurate as shown in my first post and most, if not (cannot by proven or dis-proven because mention of God,angels and demons) all is historical accurate as well.
 
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I can disprove one thing in the Bible; the Hebrew Enslavement. Egypt kept records of all the events in the life of a king. I would think the Reign Of Ozymandias, or Ramses the Second, would tell of Moses if such an event as the Exodus occurred. It doesn't. The Exodus is a metaphor, as is much of the Bible, for the years the Hebrews spent in diaspora. It's myth. A fiction. A fiction book can still be historically accurate.
 
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I can disprove one thing in the Bible; the Hebrew Enslavement. Egypt kept records of all the events in the life of a king. I would think the Reign Of Ozymandias, or Ramses the Second, would tell of Moses if such an event as the Exodus occurred. It doesn't. The Exodus is a metaphor, as is much of the Bible, for the years the Hebrews spent in diaspora. It's myth. A fiction. A fiction book can still be historically accurate.

We have almost no account as of yet whatsoever of the Hebrews in Egypt, even in Hebrew history, but as you know almost everyday people are recovering more of history. So sorry this does not disprove it or prove it. If you can prove that there was indeed no Hebrew slaves or there was no Moses or even that the Hebrews did not leave in masses out of Egypt then you would have a point. For the most part people have many theories about this. But as of yet this part of the bible cannot be proven or disproven. Just like the great flood which still cannot be proven or dis-proven (check out links below).

Anyway all I'm saying is you cannot disprove the bible, many people have tried and many more people are still trying. Just like on the flip-side us Christians cannot prove 100% that God wrote the bible. But the bible does have great archaeological accuracy and many prophecies that are coming to past. God Bless



Marine Team Finds Surprising Evidence Supporting A Great Biblical Flood

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_geology

http://www.lighthouseupc.org/flood.html



 
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Can you disprove Anubis? What about Ra? Horus? Set? Isis? Osiris? Hastur? Or what about Odin? Freya? Balder? Thor? Loki? Tyr? Or what about Czernobog? Anansi? Coyote? Raven? Ba'al? Or even Zeus? Hera? Hephaestus? Prometheus? Aphrodite? Aries? Poseidon? Hades?

Just because you can't disprove soemthing doesn't make it real.
 
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We have almost no account as of yet whatsoever of the Hebrews in Egypt, even in Hebrew history, but as you know almost everyday people are recovering more of history. So sorry this does not disprove it or prove it. If you can prove that there was indeed no Hebrew slaves or there was no Moses or even that the Hebrews did not leave in masses out of Egypt then you would have a point.

When were the Hebrews in Egypt?

"I had no serious difficulty in getting out of it [The bottom of Reichenbach Falls], for the very simple reason that I was never in it." -- Sherlock Holmes, "The Adventure of the Empty House."

For the most part people have many theories about this. But as of yet this part of the bible cannot be proven or disproven. Just like the great flood which still cannot be proven or dis-proven (check out link below).

Anyway all I'm saying is you cannot disprove the bible, many people have tried and many more people are still trying. Just like on the flip-side us Christians cannot prove 100% that God wrote the bible. But the bible does have great archaeological accuracy and many prophecies that are coming to past.

Well, until you can prove that God wrote the Bible, we have no reason to treat it as if He did.


In the meantime, you should read your links more carefully.


Says Weil, "We found that indeed a flood happened around that time. From core samples, we see that a flood broke through the natural barrier separating the Mediterranean Sea and the freshwater Black Sea, bringing with it seashells that only grow in a marine environment. There was no doubt that it was a fast flood -- one that covered an expanse four times the size of Israel. It might not have been Noah, as it is written in the Bible, but we believe people in that region had to build boats in order to save their animals from drowning. We think that the ones who survived were fishermen -- they already had the boats."


Flood geology (also creation geology or diluvial geology) is the attempt to demonstrate that a global flood was the origin of most of the Earth's geological features, including sedimentary strata, fossilization, fossil fuels, and salt domes. The geological history of the Earth, in turn, is held to validate the historicity of a global flood.
Flood geology is associated with Young Earth creationists, who regard the biblical flood narrative in Genesis 6-9 as a historically accurate record. The evidence they have presented has been evaluated, refuted and unequivocally dismissed by the scientific community, which considers the subject to be pseudoscience. Flood geology contradicts scientific consensus in disciplines such as geology, physics, chemistry, molecular genetics, evolutionary biology, archaeology, and paleontology.[1][2][3][4] [/quote]


Well, this article helps explain the first one:

As Dr Ballard explained; "During the last great Ice Age glaciers advanced across the surface of the world. That lowered the sea level 400ft. Then, 12,000 years ago at the end of the Ice Age, the glaciers began to retreat".
With its lower sea level, the eastern Mediterranean was cut off from the Black Sea so that when the oceans started to rise, the Black Sea did not."

Since the Mediterrenian and Black are part of the same system, the marine seashells in the Black Sea are easily explained.
 
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Can you disprove Anubis? What about Ra? Horus? Set? Isis? Osiris? Hastur? Or what about Odin? Freya? Balder? Thor? Loki? Tyr? Or what about Czernobog? Anansi? Coyote? Raven? Ba'al? Or even Zeus? Hera? Hephaestus? Prometheus? Aphrodite? Aries? Poseidon? Hades?

Just because you can't disprove soemthing doesn't make it real.

Does any of this have any great archaeological accuracy and historical accuracy backing it up as the bible does? Not to mention many prophecies that are being fulfilled in our time? I bet not. Anyway I have no desire to argue with you all night, that will get us nowhere. So please check out the links I showed you on post 56 and 74. goodnight and God Bless
 
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What bloody prophecies?

Which ones Jesus Fulfilled over 300 prophecies which you can check out at the link below. Jesus was prophesized in the Old Testament and the Hebrew Scriptures over 300 times and Jesus Christ fulfilled them all.

WHO IS JESUS | 300 MESSIANIC PROPHECIES PROVING JESUS CHRIST IS MESSIAH


Here are some end times prophecies that are happening in our time:


1.) Mankind would be capable of destroying all life (Matthew 24:21-22). Consider that when Jesus made this prophecy the armaments of His day were swords and spears. But today, with nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons, it is possible to wipe out all flesh on planet earth.

2.) There would be a global cry for peace (1 Thessalonians 5:3). Never has there been such a concerted, global effort to bring about peace at any cost as there is today.

3.) The returning Jews would come from the north, south, east, and west (Isaiah 43:5-6; Jeremiah 31:7-10,Ezekiel 37:21). Amazingly, nearly a million Jews have emigrated from Russia in the north. Over 90,000 Ethiopian Jews have emigrated from the south (Zephaniah 3:10). Since 1948, Jews have emigrated from Europe, Asia, the Americas, everywhere!

4.) Israel would prosper economically (Ezekiel 38:12-13). Amazingly, this recently regathered, tiny nation exported over 30 billion dollars worth of goods in 2004. In contrast, their neighbor Jordan exported less than 3 billion in 2004. This was inconceivable just a few decades ago!

5.) In the last days Israel would have a peace treaty in place that the Antichrist will confirm and eventually break (Daniel 9:27). Currently the world's governments are striving for an Israeli peace treaty.

6.) The earth would be filled with violence (Luke 17:26; Genesis 6:11-13). In the United States alone, violent crime has increased nearly 500% since 1960. Fifty years ago abortion (the violent murder of an unborn child) was illegal in most countries. Today abortion is legal in most countries and 50 million children are aborted each year.

7.) Multitudes would travel to and fro (Daniel 12:4). Prior to the Industrial Revolution, few individuals traveled beyond their community. Until recently, horse, foot, and boat were the only modes of transportation. Yet today we travel by car, bus, plane, train, subway, etc. Millions and millions are running to and fro just as Daniel prophesied 2500 years ago!

8.) Knowledge would increase (Daniel 12:4). Today we are witnessing an explosion of available knowledge. With the advent of the internet, it is estimated that our cumulative knowledge is doubling every five years. This exponential increase is beyond what any one could have imagined!

9.) Deadly diseases (which the Bible calls pestilences) would be common (Matthew 24:7). Emerging diseases such as AIDS, ebola, Hanta virus, Dengue, West Nile, SARS, bird flu, etc., underscore this fact. Ironically, just a few decades ago, some scientists were forecasting that advances in medicine might soon eradicate deadly diseases.

10.) The final generation would be open to receiving a mark on their right hand or on their forehead (Revelation 13:16). Consider how the up and coming generation is tattooed, pierced and marked with all kinds of insignia.Also check out these links about people alreay testing a microchip to be implanted under the skin of people:

http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9901/14/chipman.idg/

http://www.physorg.com/news69341086.html

http://www.drugresearcher.com/news/n...da-clears-rfid

11.) Sexual immorality would be rampant (Jude 18; Revelation 9:21). Keep in mind, Jesus said whoever looks to lust has already committed adultery in his heart (Matthew 5:28). Therefore, God equates Internet inappropriate content, lustful movies, TV shows, and magazines to fornication. The availability and consumption of sensual products has exploded in our generation.

12.) Men would be lovers of themselves (2 Timothy 3:1-2). This generation, like no other, regards self above all else. Self-love, self-esteem, self-reliance, self-gratification, are encouraged by the media, schools, psychologists, etc. In contrast, Jesus taught self-denial. Even many churches today preach a feel good about yourself message.

13.) Homosexuality would be flaunted at the end of the age. Jesus warned that the last days would be like the days of Lot who lived in wicked Sodom (Luke 17:28-30). We know that the root of Sodom's sin was pride and complacency (Ezekiel 16:49) as it is today. However, Sodom's lasting infamy stemmed from their aggressive homosexual sin (Genesis 19; Jude 1:7). Today, the homosexual agenda is flaunted and forced upon our entire society.

14.) Sorceries referring to witchcraft, magic, or occult practices used to enchant and deceive are also anticipated in the last days (Revelation 9:21; 18:23; 21:8; Isaiah 47:9-15; Micah 5:10-15). Today, interest in the occult is flourishing.

15.) Men would mock the warning signs of the end of the age saying, These signs have always been around (2 Peter 3:3-4).

16.) People would reject the sound doctrine of the Word of God and follow the doctrines of men that appeal to their own lusts (2 Timothy 4:3-4; Acts 20:29-30). Others would confess faith in Christ, but not obey His Word (Matthew 24:48-51; Matthew 7:22-23).

17.) Jesus said Christians would be hated for His name's sake (Luke 21:17; Revelation 6:9-11; 20:4). The banning of the Bible, prayer, the Ten Commandments, nativity scenes, Christmas songs, etc., reflects this trend. Also consider that more Christians were martyred during the past century than during all of history.

18.) Israel would be invincible (Zechariah 12:6-9). Since 1948, tiny Israel has been attacked in three major wars and six lesser wars, yet despite being vastly outnumbered, they have defeated all attacking foes. Even during the final battle, when it looks like Israel will be destroyed, the Lord shall deliver her. (Jeremiah 30:3-7; Zechariah 14; Mark 13:14-20). An invincible Israel makes no sense unless you believe God's Word.

19.) The Christian gospel would be preached as a witness to all nations (Matthew 24:14; Mark 13:10; Revelation 14:6). Today, portions or all of the Bible have been translated into over 2,300 languages and dialects covering over 90% of the world's population. Many Christian organizations are taking the gospel to the ends of the earth such as Teen Mania's global expeditions.

20.) Preparations for a global war anticipated (Joel 3:9-14; Matthew 24:22; Revelation 16:14). Never in history have so many nations stockpiled weapons of mass destruction.

21.) Global communications foreseen (Revelation 11:9-10; 17:8). The Bible prophesies that the entire world will see certain events unfold. The invention of the television and the deployment of global satellite networks during the 20th century allow news to travel the world at the speed of light for the first time ever. Remember that in the apostle John's day, news traveled at the speed of horseback.

22.) The fact that God once flooded the earth (the Noahic Flood) would be denied (2 Peter 3:5-6). There is a mass of fossil evidence to prove this fact, yet it is flatly ignored by most of the scientific world because it was judgment from God on man's wickedness.

23.) Many wars would erupt (Mark 13:7-8). According to Project Ploughshares, there are over 50 major armed conflicts in the world today.

24.) Anti-Semitism worldwide anticipated (Deuteronomy 28:37; Jeremiah 29:18; 44:8). History confirms that the Jews have been persecuted as no other people group. Hitler tried to exterminate them, and the Antichrist will attempt the same during the Tribulation. Today, anti-Semitism is a global epidemic. For example, of over 700 General Assembly resolutions passed since the establishment of the United Nations in 1945, nearly 450 condemn Israel. None have been passed against any Arab country nor any Arab terrorist organizations! In other words, out of 190 nations in the UN, over 60% of all General Assembly resolutions rebuke just one member, Israel!

http://web.israelinsider.com/Article...Semi/10498.htm

http://www.aish.com/societyWork/soci..._in_Europe.asp

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...l?onclick=true


25.)The last days Jews would plant forests of trees. The Bible even specifies the variety of trees, cedar, acacia, myrtle, oil, cypress, pine, and box (Isaiah 41:18-20). Since 1900 more than one billion trees have been planted in Israel! This has happened in our day after Israel lay barren for nearly two millennia.

26.) Ironically, Egypt and Jordan would not participate in this attack (Ezekiel 38). Interestingly, these two nations have signed recent peace treaties with Israel. Egypt in 1979 and Jordan in 1994.

27.) Population explosion foreseen (Revelation 7:9, 14). The apostle John, who wrote the Book of Revelation, was told the number of an army in the last days - 200 million (Revelation 9:16). This was the approximate population of the world at that time. That John also beholds a great multitude which no one could number coming out of the Great Tribulation at the end of the age (Revelation 7:9, 14), indicates an enormous number of people on planet earth in the last days.

28.) Humanity would become increasingly materialistic and lovers of pleasure (2 Timothy 3:1-5). No generation in history has had so many means to entertain and arouse the senses. Every imaginable hedonistic pleasure is available and has become big business.

29.) The nation Israel would be born in one day (Isaiah 66:8). On May 14, 1948 Israel became a nation.

30.) Many would call themselves the Christ (Matthew 24:5). Jesus was anitinerate preacher who never traveled outside the tiny nation of Israel and He had the audacity to say that many would come in His name, claiming to be the Christ. And yet today, multitudes within the New Age Movement, Eastern religions, and the cults call themselves the Christ. This is another incredible prophecy!


Check out this youtube link to see a few of these people who claim to be the Christ:

YouTube - People get ready! (Easier to Read in HQ)
 
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Yet you cannot disprove the bible or that of it's historical accuracy, it's just your wishful thinking. God Bless
You can't prove it either. Faith isn't proof. Thats pretty much the whole point of "faith", belief without proof.
 
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