Teach Your Children Well or Someone Else Will

salida · Feb 25, 2010

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/02/25/teach-your-children-well-or-someone-else-will/

Many professors are liberal and are brainwashing naive students. Students need to challenge these people. A good book is called Brainwashed by Ben Shapiro

*Starlight* · Feb 25, 2010

Apparently, the author of the article sees "questioning authority" as something wrong. When a person explicitly says that thinking for yourself is a bad thing, then I don't really see how anyone could take such a person seriously...

ChristianPilot · Feb 25, 2010

I've had more than one professor who was liberally biased in their teaching. These are classes where you study the test material, do your homework, and take nothing else from the class.

I would do the same thing for a professor who was conservatively biased though. College is a place for learning and teaching, not forcing your opinion on others.

Maynard Keenan · Feb 25, 2010

I had two openly liberal professors. One was in English, one was in Sociology. Neither censored student debate or graded based on politics.

I also had openly conservative professors. My political science professor was a conservative who told us his opinions freely, but again never censored debate or graded on politics. One of my Engineering professors was pretty conservative but more distrustful of government/politicians in general and would go on long rants about stupid government actions and his views on energy policy. Another engineering professor who works heavily in air pollution and turbomachinery lectured on global warming (I don't consider that liberal, he was teaching on his field of science) but did at times get into the politics of it.

I short, I never saw bias. Are there schools and fields with a liberal bias? Sure. There are also schools and fields with a conservative bias. But I also think a lot of people see bias when in fact they're just not getting catered to like they're used to.

bigbadwilf · Feb 25, 2010

I know a considerable number of professors (I work in a university) and I can confirm that some do have a liberal bias.
Admittedly there are as many with a conservative bias, and the vast majority view politics as an annoyance which would cut into their lab time.
It may be different in other departments (mine is a hard science one), so the views tend to be reality based, except for the theoretical people.

Pinhead · Feb 25, 2010

Maynard Keenan said:
I had two openly liberal professors. One was in English, one was in Sociology. Neither censored student debate or graded based on politics.

I also had openly conservative professors. My political science professor was a conservative who told us his opinions freely, but again never censored debate or graded on politics. One of my Engineering professors was pretty conservative but more distrustful of government/politicians in general and would go on long rants about stupid government actions and his views on energy policy. Another engineering professor who works heavily in air pollution and turbomachinery lectured on global warming (I don't consider that liberal, he was teaching on his field of science) but did at times get into the politics of it.

I short, I never saw bias. Are there schools and fields with a liberal bias? Sure. There are also schools and fields with a conservative bias. But I also think a lot of people see bias when in fact they're just not getting catered to like they're used to.

I received a lesser grade in a class because of my stance on gun control. It was a research and essay class. I argued FOR gun control and I think my prof was a card carrying member of the NRA.
Anyhoo...
Believe it or not, my advocacy for and interest in gun control actually led to my now being a gun rights supporter. Maybe he was right.

katautumn · Feb 25, 2010

When colleges fail to properly screen professors like Amy Bishop Anderson and hire them knowing they are insanely radical there is a problem and it causes me to wonder what is the purpose of many of our American colleges. Is it to challenge young adults to think critically? Is it to shatter their perceptions of the world that they were raised with? In my opinion, many college professors revel at the idea of taking a young adult that has been raised with strong convictions and absolutely breaking them down and reshaping their views. That's not what our education system was supposed to be about, and they're even starting this junk in our junior and senior high schools now.

lux et lex · Feb 25, 2010

My Debtor-Creditor/Commercial Paper professor (a local lawyer in town) was so extremely conservative that he would go on long rants about government policy and "liberal-wackos". I ignored and continued on with the class, until the day of the 2008 election when he informed us in (what turned out to be) a 45 minute speech about how if we elect liberals to office there will be no jobs for lawyers. I, fed up, got up and left and when he asked where I was going I said "I came here to learn about the law, you seemed to have finished teaching for the day, so class must be over". I got an A in both classes.

Chajara · Feb 25, 2010

KatAutumn said:
When colleges fail to properly screen professors like Amy Bishop Anderson and hire them knowing they are insanely radical there is a problem and it causes me to wonder what is the purpose of many of our American colleges.

I think that like just about everything else in this country, the purpose of many of our universities is to make money. :sigh:

salida · Feb 25, 2010

The question authority statement isn't shocking if some of them are from the hippey era and woodstock. Those people rebelled and questioned authority.

rambot · Feb 25, 2010

salida said:
http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/02/25/teach-your-children-well-or-someone-else-will/

Many professors are liberal and are brainwashing naive students. Students need to challenge these people. A good book is called Brainwashed by Ben Shapiro

Thats not surprising, Brake said, given that todays professoriate was trained from the 60s and 70s onward to be skeptical, adhering to the mantra of Question Authority.

So to extend your argument, you don't want to see America advance or become great again.

Questioning Authority is the first step in innovation. It's what you, salida, are doing when you disagree with global warming.

The article itself makes some, not tenuous, but just plain ridiculous claims insinuating that students' poor knowledge of civics American history etc.... What an utterly absurd point, even for a blogger to make. I mean, where is the logical connection there?

The FIRST step in questioning authority is understanding what the authority is and how it is misguided.

Staccato · Feb 25, 2010

salida said:
Those people rebelled and questioned authority.

Which I suppose is a bad thing in their case but a good thing when you do it with regards to everything Congress or Obama come out with, yes?

Legitimate authority doesn't care if you question it or not; it doesn't care if you've got conerns or worries because it should have enough self-assurance in the legitimacy of its own position to answer and deal with such intrusions (note: this is not to say that it shouldn't defend itself from deliberate subversion). Illegitimate authority does not. Beware any person or institution that tells you that questioning them is a bad idea or 'not the done thing'.

Macrina · Feb 26, 2010

In my experience, academic liberalism isn't nearly as scary as it's made out to be sometimes. I've been to schools where people warned me against losing my faith because they were so godless and horrible... and strangely enough, my faith came out stronger after my education than before.

I do agree that we should teach our children our values, however. I just don't agree that we should teach them to fear conversation with someone who bears a label such as "liberal" or "conservative."

blessedmomof5 · Feb 26, 2010

Very interesting article, and although i do not have college age children, i have just learned a lesson with my 2 13 yr old 8th graders on a book they are reading in class oh to kill a mocking bird, i do not ever remember readin it and to be honest and i might be missing the point of the whole book or maybe why they need to add the explicit language to such young kids but i will go on. after they got done reading this specific paragraph, the teacher said "you will probably never say this again" but i want you to write it Word for Word as you see it on your homework. :o so the girls come up to me and say mom they want me to write ____ damit plus more explicit word in there. so me being a little extreme said you will not write that we DO NOT use GODS name in vain.so we sat and talked a little and i asked them what they would say to the teacher as she went around and asked why they didn't complete that part of there homework, 1 daughter responded because we do not Use Gods name like that. the other more shy and less confrontational said........ i didn't understand the question..... i told her she needed to stand up for Jesus, and not to be ashamed, or else He will be ashamed of you in front of the Father, she got the point, at the same time i was thinking ok if they both get a bad mark, or it lowers there grade i was having a meeting with the principal and the teacher so far i have heard nothing and the teacher has said nothing.
I am sure God was with that Day, sorry for the LONG story and rant, wish i could afford to send 5 to christian school.

ACougar · Feb 26, 2010

I would agree that if your children are not well grounded in your particular perspective, be it liberal or conservative... that the likelihood of them acquiring a different perspective from your own while their in college is higher. On the other hand, this is likely no matter how well they are grounded in a particular perspective as they attempt to make sense of the world aroudn them.

Antigone · Feb 26, 2010

salida said:
The question authority statement isn't shocking if some of them are from the hippey era and woodstock. Those people rebelled and questioned authority.

Well, strictly speaking, so did McCarthyism.

Criada · Feb 26, 2010

I hope that my children will have enough confidence in their own beliefs to be able to confront those who disagree with them without having a crisis!
Children need to form their own views, they are not clones, and if they are indoctrinated with their parents' beliefs and never exposed to any alternative, they will grow up to be very bigoted and unable to argue their case.
My children read a variety of views, and I hope will be better for it, since they will know not only what they believe, but why, and have some understanding of what and why others believe.

WadeWilson · Feb 26, 2010

"Teach Your Children Well or Someone Else Will"?

I think a better title would be:

"Indoctrinate Your Children First or Someone Else Will"

That was the point of the article right?

DaisyDay · Feb 26, 2010

blessedmomof5 said:
Very interesting article, and although i do not have college age children, i have just learned a lesson with my 2 13 yr old 8th graders on a book they are reading in class oh to kill a mocking bird, i do not ever remember readin it and to be honest and i might be missing the point of the whole book or maybe why they need to add the explicit language to such young kids but i will go on. after they got done reading this specific paragraph, the teacher said "you will probably never say this again" but i want you to write it Word for Word as you see it on your homework. :o so the girls come up to me and say mom they want me to write ____ damit plus more explicit word in there. so me being a little extreme said you will not write that we DO NOT use GODS name in vain.so we sat and talked a little and i asked them what they would say to the teacher as she went around and asked why they didn't complete that part of there homework, 1 daughter responded because we do not Use Gods name like that. the other more shy and less confrontational said........ i didn't understand the question..... i told her she needed to stand up for Jesus, and not to be ashamed, or else He will be ashamed of you in front of the Father, she got the point, at the same time i was thinking ok if they both get a bad mark, or it lowers there grade i was having a meeting with the principal and the teacher so far i have heard nothing and the teacher has said nothing.
I am sure God was with that Day, sorry for the LONG story and rant, wish i could afford to send 5 to christian school.

"To Kill a Mockingbird" is a classic. A 13 year old should be able to handle encountering G-d- in a book or discussion without falling apart. The way you showed them to handle it was good and useful for the future - calmly stand your ground. Good job!

Children that age are exposed to way worse language from their peers, even in good Christian schools.

blessedmomof5 · Feb 26, 2010

ya know they had actually said to me mom we really never noticed people before for their color, thats not how we saw people, they never had heard the "n" word before, i don;t know i have such mixed feeling on the whole book, especially the g--damit part, and knowing ful well while reading they had to have said it in their minds.......ok maybe i am thinking to much.or maybe not.just glad i never read it

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